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I am good at poker. But my last few trips to the casino haven't went well. Apparently a flush is now a straight and a straight is now a full house. Nobody told me. My win rate is much lower now. GG casino.
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This thread just got personal. Show match or knife fight?
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lol two irrelevant players arguing in a patch thread. As if this thread couldn't get any worse hah
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I say whoever wins the show match gets the Knife in the fight how's that for a combination 
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On November 15 2013 04:16 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:14 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:08 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:06 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 03:47 iaguz wrote:On November 15 2013 03:36 TT1 wrote:
worst balance patch since the release of sc2 I agree oracles need to be faster. agreed and someone needs to teach you how to gg kiddo You are not a specialist on that field either i would hang myself if i ever lost vs a b- bw scrub such as urself, pretty sure every ex bw player knows how big of a douchebag u are. cant comment much on the eu sc2 scene First of all, you already did lose to me. Secondly in Broodwar. Third, I was A-. Furthermore never used hacks and I am pretty sure while I was a flamer, I never really was a douchebag like yourself. If you could use proper English on Teamliquid that would be nice as well! PS: We also used to be on the same team in Starcraft 2 in which you didn't gg either as well as on ladder. Keep dissing people for stuff you don't do to begin with. Nicely done!
we can easily resolve this argument, just ask ppl whether or not i gg
as for your iccup rank, you couldnt even get b+ during tsl 2 and all those ratings were inflated by at least 1k pts. anywho i really couldnt care less
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047
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On November 15 2013 04:38 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:16 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:14 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:08 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:06 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 03:47 iaguz wrote:On November 15 2013 03:36 TT1 wrote:
worst balance patch since the release of sc2 I agree oracles need to be faster. agreed and someone needs to teach you how to gg kiddo You are not a specialist on that field either i would hang myself if i ever lost vs a b- bw scrub such as urself, pretty sure every ex bw player knows how big of a douchebag u are. cant comment much on the eu sc2 scene First of all, you already did lose to me. Secondly in Broodwar. Third, I was A-. Furthermore never used hacks and I am pretty sure while I was a flamer, I never really was a douchebag like yourself. If you could use proper English on Teamliquid that would be nice as well! PS: We also used to be on the same team in Starcraft 2 in which you didn't gg either as well as on ladder. Keep dissing people for stuff you don't do to begin with. Nicely done! we can easily resolve this argument, just ask ppl whether or not i gg as for your iccup rank, you couldnt even get b+ during tsl 2 and all those ratings were inflated by at least 1k pts. anywho i really couldnt care less http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047
53-17 B- during TSL2 proves I wasn't A- ever? Good joke ! Thanks! Also I don't need to ask people, I saw it myself so... couldn't care less either.
But here you go, old screenshot of B (which still is not A-, but I don't have screenshots saved all over the place and it has been a while)
![[image loading]](http://avenger1986.av.ohost.de/ICCupakas/week8.jpg)
I also played against mostly Koreans ... not like other foreigners dodging them 
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Northern Ireland27328 Posts
So em, cya in LotV then folks? Well then, or if a root and branch patch comes out.
I also wish Blizzard would stop trying to make mech viable vP without doing the aforementioned. Never mind immortals stomping on mech, when you have Warpgates and can warp in anywhere you find one chink in a defence? In addition the potency of allin builds that require just one proxy pylon being established??
Could go on.
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France19747 Posts
On November 15 2013 04:25 Snusmumriken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:11 TheDwf wrote:On November 15 2013 03:50 mishimaBeef wrote:On November 15 2013 03:49 TheDwf wrote:On November 15 2013 03:46 mishimaBeef wrote:On November 15 2013 03:44 TheDwf wrote:On November 15 2013 03:35 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 03:26 TheDwf wrote:On November 15 2013 03:19 TheOne26 wrote:
don't forget the part where if a protoss is not watching their mini map and their oracle starts taking damage (from marines right under them) the increased speed will probably allow them to save it now before it dies. why should their mistakes not go unpunished? meanwhile as terran if you aren't watching the minimap and an oracle is in your mineral line that's 5 scvs dead guaranteed.
the leeway here is just getting out of hand and this applies to so many other areas of the game as well. e.g. if a HT lands a storm its guaranteed damage, if a ghost lands an emp the protoss army can just back away and regen shields. Yeah, the Oracle buff made them so much more forgiving. Yesterday, one Protoss flew one of his Oracles right above 6 of my Marines, still managed to escape alive; another game, the Protoss player flied one of his Oracles near 8 Marines, still survived despite hit & run from my part. Both times, the Oracle would have 100% died pre-patch (at it should from such an oversight). It's the same thing with the MSC, how many times you see a Protoss player not pay any attention to it, then get away at 5 or 10 hit points, with or without Time Warp, because the unit has so many hit points that it doesn't matter. How can one even call those units with 160 or 195 hit points "fragile" is beyond me. If you think about it, they're moving in this direction with most harrassment units, it's not an oracle thing. They did the same thing with reapers, warp prisms, medivacs and mutas. They want these units to stay alive, and I think that's a pretty good direction to head in the game. I disagree. Making things more forgiving is not a good idea because it lowers the skill floor and allows bad/mediocre players to compensate with easier tools. ??? What is your question? Why does more harassment ability make things more forgiving? The forgiving aspect does not come from the fact Oracles are better at harassing, it comes from the fact the Protoss player is less punished for control mistakes because the unit is faster and more responsive (and thus can escape more easily if flying over wrong locations). Just like muta regen simultaneously made mutas better for harass AND more forgiving. More responsive is generally a good thing and something which should be increased for most units imo (depending of course on how you interpret 'responsive'), faster however is another story.
Ideally yes. Unfortunately, TvP in its current state cannot tolerate this Oracle on steroids.
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On November 15 2013 04:45 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:38 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:16 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:14 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:08 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:06 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 03:47 iaguz wrote:On November 15 2013 03:36 TT1 wrote:
worst balance patch since the release of sc2 I agree oracles need to be faster. agreed and someone needs to teach you how to gg kiddo You are not a specialist on that field either i would hang myself if i ever lost vs a b- bw scrub such as urself, pretty sure every ex bw player knows how big of a douchebag u are. cant comment much on the eu sc2 scene First of all, you already did lose to me. Secondly in Broodwar. Third, I was A-. Furthermore never used hacks and I am pretty sure while I was a flamer, I never really was a douchebag like yourself. If you could use proper English on Teamliquid that would be nice as well! PS: We also used to be on the same team in Starcraft 2 in which you didn't gg either as well as on ladder. Keep dissing people for stuff you don't do to begin with. Nicely done! we can easily resolve this argument, just ask ppl whether or not i gg as for your iccup rank, you couldnt even get b+ during tsl 2 and all those ratings were inflated by at least 1k pts. anywho i really couldnt care less http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047 53-17 B- during TSL2 proves I wasn't A- ever? Good joke ! Thanks! Also I don't need to ask people, I saw it myself so... couldn't care less either.
you saw me not gg'ing vs you over 1-2 years ago (im assuming this was when i was living in germany because thats the only time i played on eu) like you saw yourself being a- on iccup? you were b- during tsl2, afaik b- is b- and a- is a-. and those ratings were insanely inflated because everyone played vs foreigners.. skillwise you might have even been c+ 
edit: wow just saw your list, dashwriter and gentleman are on it. was this 10 years ago when iccup just came out and only foreigners were playing on it? even so b still isnt a- t.t
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On November 15 2013 04:56 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:45 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:38 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:16 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:14 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:08 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:06 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 03:47 iaguz wrote:On November 15 2013 03:36 TT1 wrote:
worst balance patch since the release of sc2 I agree oracles need to be faster. agreed and someone needs to teach you how to gg kiddo You are not a specialist on that field either i would hang myself if i ever lost vs a b- bw scrub such as urself, pretty sure every ex bw player knows how big of a douchebag u are. cant comment much on the eu sc2 scene First of all, you already did lose to me. Secondly in Broodwar. Third, I was A-. Furthermore never used hacks and I am pretty sure while I was a flamer, I never really was a douchebag like yourself. If you could use proper English on Teamliquid that would be nice as well! PS: We also used to be on the same team in Starcraft 2 in which you didn't gg either as well as on ladder. Keep dissing people for stuff you don't do to begin with. Nicely done! we can easily resolve this argument, just ask ppl whether or not i gg as for your iccup rank, you couldnt even get b+ during tsl 2 and all those ratings were inflated by at least 1k pts. anywho i really couldnt care less http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047 53-17 B- during TSL2 proves I wasn't A- ever? Good joke ! Thanks! Also I don't need to ask people, I saw it myself so... couldn't care less either. you saw me not gg'ing vs you over 1-2 years ago (im assuming this was when i was living in germany because thats the only time i played on eu) like you saw yourself being a- on iccup? you were b- during tsl2, afaik b- is b- and a- is a-. and those ratings were insanely inflated because everyone played vs foreigners.. skillwise you might have even been c+
The screenshot already shows B, which is vs Korean only like I preferred. Also 53-17 probably implies I can go either. You don't need to believe it, but I was A- and I didn't need additional software to be competetive. Also, ask IefNaij how bad I was on BlueStorm against him or NonY how much I sucked on Othello. Anyways, have a nice day!
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
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Aaah that's why I don't see any Terran laddering right now... I was actually unaware of the change since the new season. Because they don't know what to do because they relied on widow mines too much. I only meet Ps and Zs right now, don't know about you.
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On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do.
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On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:56 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:45 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:38 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:16 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:14 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 04:08 NarutO wrote:On November 15 2013 04:06 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 03:47 iaguz wrote:On November 15 2013 03:36 TT1 wrote:
worst balance patch since the release of sc2 I agree oracles need to be faster. agreed and someone needs to teach you how to gg kiddo You are not a specialist on that field either i would hang myself if i ever lost vs a b- bw scrub such as urself, pretty sure every ex bw player knows how big of a douchebag u are. cant comment much on the eu sc2 scene First of all, you already did lose to me. Secondly in Broodwar. Third, I was A-. Furthermore never used hacks and I am pretty sure while I was a flamer, I never really was a douchebag like yourself. If you could use proper English on Teamliquid that would be nice as well! PS: We also used to be on the same team in Starcraft 2 in which you didn't gg either as well as on ladder. Keep dissing people for stuff you don't do to begin with. Nicely done! we can easily resolve this argument, just ask ppl whether or not i gg as for your iccup rank, you couldnt even get b+ during tsl 2 and all those ratings were inflated by at least 1k pts. anywho i really couldnt care less http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=106047 53-17 B- during TSL2 proves I wasn't A- ever? Good joke ! Thanks! Also I don't need to ask people, I saw it myself so... couldn't care less either. you saw me not gg'ing vs you over 1-2 years ago (im assuming this was when i was living in germany because thats the only time i played on eu) like you saw yourself being a- on iccup? you were b- during tsl2, afaik b- is b- and a- is a-. and those ratings were insanely inflated because everyone played vs foreigners.. skillwise you might have even been c+ The screenshot already shows B, which is vs Korean only like I preferred. Also 53-17 probably implies I can go either. You don't need to believe it, but I was A- and I didn't need additional software to be competetive. Also, ask IefNaij how bad I was on BlueStorm against him or NonY how much I sucked on Othello. Anyways, have a nice day! If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
I like how TT1 trashtalk but avoid the fact that he maphacked.
Anyway this is not the subject.
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On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do.
No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great!
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On November 15 2013 05:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do. No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great!
8D sure, we should make it that the loser cant post on tl ever again
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On November 15 2013 05:09 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do. No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great! 8D sure, we should make it that the loser cant post on tl ever again
That sounds like a good idea, TL can't lose either way.
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It feels like the Widow Mine nerf is helping terrans to some extent, your marines are now way less vulnerable to WM´s friendly fire. So yeah there is definitely two ways to look at the WM change.
To the poster above saying that he´s seeing less terrans with the argument that we can´t rely on WM´s anymore. Let me just tell you that if you are seeing less terrans then everything is working same way as before,since terrans have been the least represented race for a long time in ladder, actually your least played match up should be vT if you are Silver or above.
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On November 15 2013 05:09 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do. No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great! 8D sure, we should make it that the loser cant post on tl ever again Better just 1 week and public apology.
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On November 15 2013 05:13 Tuczniak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:09 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 05:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do. No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great! 8D sure, we should make it that the loser cant post on tl ever again Better just 1 week and public apology.
sorry i cant be nice like you, especially not towards ppl like naruto. it doesnt matter anyways because nothing is gonna happen, hes just gonna cower away because he knows i would crush him with 1 finger
no point in derailing this thread any further unless he reply's back, hf with your discussion!
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On November 15 2013 05:27 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2013 05:13 Tuczniak wrote:On November 15 2013 05:09 TT1 wrote:On November 15 2013 05:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 15 2013 05:05 ffadicted wrote:On November 15 2013 04:58 NarutO wrote:
If you have more to say, take it to PM, thanks.
Yes, please please do. No, i want a showmatch bo5 in broodwar and sc2, say the loser isn't allowed to whine on tl ever again? great! 8D sure, we should make it that the loser cant post on tl ever again Better just 1 week and public apology. sorry i cant be nice like you, especially not towards ppl like naruto. it doesnt matter anyways because nothing is gonna happen, hes just gonna cower away because he knows i would crush him with 1 finger no point in derailing this thread any further unless he reply's back, hf with your discussion!
Ofcourse you would crush me now, so what does this proof? A few years back it would have been a match, now its not. Dat logic
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