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SC2 is a semi-F2P - good or bad? - Page 2

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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
November 10 2013 15:21 GMT
#21
Its definitely a good thing.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Hiro45
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada13 Posts
November 10 2013 15:44 GMT
#22
So after this patch you can play any of the maps in custom? (if you have only the starter edition?)
BillGates
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
471 Posts
November 10 2013 16:11 GMT
#23
So is this HOTS or just WOL? I mean if its just WOL multiplayer, than its not really that great.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
November 10 2013 16:15 GMT
#24
On November 10 2013 21:33 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 21:32 Creager wrote:
I fear for the modest and polite chatting going on in most games... Occasional BM is okay, but with f2p trolls and assholes soon joining in on team games I don't feel this is going to a very pleasant thing to play anymore. Gotta resume my 1v1 career, then.


They only have access to teamgames over the spawning functionality.


Ah, thanks for clarifying that! Then it's not a bad thing at all
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AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
November 10 2013 16:16 GMT
#25
On November 10 2013 22:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
So, as soon as there's a decent way to make a non-blizzard ladder/match making system for SC2, we might see the Chinese sc2 scene take off ~_~


that would be sick
i balance whine all the time.
Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
November 10 2013 16:21 GMT
#26
Good, but could be better. Sc2 needs to go towards F2P I think when sc2's GRAND FINALS were getting significantly less viewers than just people streaming league, there's an issue. And before people say LoL is a game for dumb people or "sc2 can be great it doesn't have to beat LoL" my question for you is "why don't you want sc2 to be as awesome as possible?" Why would you not want to get the grow the audience, which will to more money, more stable environment, etc.
PaztheLobster
Profile Joined September 2013
Philippines25 Posts
November 10 2013 16:33 GMT
#27
Good, definitely. Could potentially increase the audience by a significant amount, especially after Blizzcon/WCS. I'm sure some people do not know about it being f2p so I'll be advertising SC2 around my circle of friends a lot once 2.1 hits.
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1802 Posts
November 10 2013 16:37 GMT
#28
On November 11 2013 01:21 Supert0fu wrote:
Good, but could be better. Sc2 needs to go towards F2P I think when sc2's GRAND FINALS were getting significantly less viewers than just people streaming league, there's an issue. And before people say LoL is a game for dumb people or "sc2 can be great it doesn't have to beat LoL" my question for you is "why don't you want sc2 to be as awesome as possible?" Why would you not want to get the grow the audience, which will to more money, more stable environment, etc.

But we were beating LoL this past weekend...?

+ the countless europeans on the Blizzard Stream ;~;
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 16:57:18
November 10 2013 16:56 GMT
#29
On November 10 2013 22:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
So, as soon as there's a decent way to make a non-blizzard ladder/match making system for SC2, we might see the Chinese sc2 scene take off ~_~


You can create a ladder through custom maps, SC2 has a way to store data from customs persistently, this can include Elo ratings.

Matches could be found through chat channels.
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 17:06:55
November 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#30
On November 11 2013 01:56 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 22:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
So, as soon as there's a decent way to make a non-blizzard ladder/match making system for SC2, we might see the Chinese sc2 scene take off ~_~


You can create a ladder through custom maps, SC2 has a way to store data from customs persistently, this can include Elo ratings.

Matches could be found through chat channels.


There's no way* to create a custom ladder system within the arcade that isn't gameable/exploitable by a malicious person, unfortunately.

(*Without substantial, unrealistic amounts of effort for such an endeavor.)
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
November 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#31
I love this. Makes it so much easier to play with people.
eScaper-tsunami
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 17:08:59
November 10 2013 17:06 GMT
#32
I think this is a smart move from Blizzard. Promoting the game without hurting existing players is always good.

On November 11 2013 01:21 Supert0fu wrote:
Good, but could be better. Sc2 needs to go towards F2P I think when sc2's GRAND FINALS were getting significantly less viewers than just people streaming league, there's an issue. And before people say LoL is a game for dumb people or "sc2 can be great it doesn't have to beat LoL" my question for you is "why don't you want sc2 to be as awesome as possible?" Why would you not want to get the grow the audience, which will to more money, more stable environment, etc.


Going to full f2p will most likely piss off people who paid for account(s). Remember globalization of the servers and how many people ranted how their accounts were disappearing etc.? Ya, it's probably wise to avoid that.
RuhRoh is my herO
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
November 10 2013 18:07 GMT
#33
I'm pretty sure they will make the whole MP free when LotV comes out. (atleast they should and I definitly see them doing it)
Also they should advertise these changes more. Most people who don't play SC2 won't notice this change. So I don't think it'll have a great impact on the playerbase.
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
November 10 2013 18:17 GMT
#34
it's a great idea, i love the fact they are making it semi f2p
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
November 10 2013 18:21 GMT
#35
In result, semi-F2P may solve question regarding LAN.

How can F2P solve LAN?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 10 2013 18:23 GMT
#36
Too little, too late.
But this is a nice gesture (:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
November 10 2013 18:23 GMT
#37
On November 11 2013 02:06 eScaper-tsunami wrote:
I think this is a smart move from Blizzard. Promoting the game without hurting existing players is always good.

Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:21 Supert0fu wrote:
Good, but could be better. Sc2 needs to go towards F2P I think when sc2's GRAND FINALS were getting significantly less viewers than just people streaming league, there's an issue. And before people say LoL is a game for dumb people or "sc2 can be great it doesn't have to beat LoL" my question for you is "why don't you want sc2 to be as awesome as possible?" Why would you not want to get the grow the audience, which will to more money, more stable environment, etc.


Going to full f2p will most likely piss off people who paid for account(s). Remember globalization of the servers and how many people ranted how their accounts were disappearing etc.? Ya, it's probably wise to avoid that.


Full f2p will be patch 3.1 after LotV is out for some time likely
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
November 10 2013 18:29 GMT
#38
f2p games are way more popular, good move by blizzard
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
November 10 2013 18:36 GMT
#39
On November 11 2013 01:37 Master of DalK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 01:21 Supert0fu wrote:
Good, but could be better. Sc2 needs to go towards F2P I think when sc2's GRAND FINALS were getting significantly less viewers than just people streaming league, there's an issue. And before people say LoL is a game for dumb people or "sc2 can be great it doesn't have to beat LoL" my question for you is "why don't you want sc2 to be as awesome as possible?" Why would you not want to get the grow the audience, which will to more money, more stable environment, etc.

But we were beating LoL this past weekend...?

+ the countless europeans on the Blizzard Stream ;~;
and koreans on ogn :^)
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
November 10 2013 18:38 GMT
#40
Definitely good. The one thing that BW had going for it was that it had a really cutthroat competitive scene on iCCup and a ton of fun custom games from BGH, to Fastest Map Ever etc etc.

SC2 currently has no custom scene, and so right now the people who play SC2 generally play it only for competitive reason and for some people competitive SC2 is just way too stressful.

"Or a school bus over a bunch of kids" - Tasteless --- “A man's errors are his portals of discovery.” - James Joyce
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