EPTWCS AM - Polt defeats ByuL in Finals (Season 3) - Page 4
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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Elitios
France164 Posts
On October 22 2013 01:58 stratmatt wrote: You mean Polt is showing that is ONE way to go? Yes, one way to go among many, but THE most efficient way to go.  On October 22 2013 02:00 lolfail9001 wrote: 1st. Will watch, seems ByuL pretty good. 2nd. Typical Korean ladder way, seriously. 3rd. Tbh i think 25+ mutas with ling bane and occasional infestor is pretty much perfect late game comp for zvt, especially since it handles the late game economy of terran so nicely with it's mobility, but that's just my rather noob opinion. 4th. Infestors... suck if are not used to lock down units for ultras to shred. 4: why is that ? if you fungle medivacs for the mutas to kill or the marines for the banes, it still seems worth it, not counting the fact that infested terran harass can still be good in late game low econ slugfests | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On October 22 2013 00:50 FeyFey wrote: There are a few key moments the Zerg has to be careful about. 3-3 and if the Terran sneaks in another base somewhere. At this point they often lose their Mutas, due to the explosion of power in the Terran army. Infestors are not needed for Ultras since the Muta buff and Overseer speed made it insanely easy as the detection doesn't fall behind anymore. As long as you have enough Mutas they will deal constant and more then enough damage to the Bio and you can easily dodge mines with them and only have to retreat after 1 or 2 critical hits. If you had been ahead enough to get enough ultras or even fight on creep for a few transfuses you will get the Medivacs and then its goodbye with cost efficiency for the Terran. Infestors new Fungal mechanic is also really bad for dealing with fleeing units and the biggest issue is that they only have limited anti air options, and the Medivac cloud is the only thing that keeps the Terran alive lategame. (god have mercy if they find out they have an energy upgrade for those things in TvZ, they would basically build 3 medivacs for the price o 2 if they lost their cloud) So yes Infestors are a nice addition (especially for denying new bases with ITs), but they are not what you want to mass against a Terran if you go for Ultras. Since the real issue are the Medivacs nothing else. Wouldn't help if Zergs would keep their red ultras alive and transfuse them healthy again. I do it by burrowing them, so I don't have to switch groups or anything and every scan is as if you killed 5 Marines. But I am deeply impressed by ByuL, I knew already how indestructible Polt is so I was prepared for that. Hum, I can agree with that. Although, Ultra are still the only Hive tech choice that seem to matter against Bio in ZvT. And they are easy to prepare for in that case. Zerg players definitely need to be more cautious of their Ultras. They are beefy enough to be reusable for long period of time. | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On October 22 2013 02:10 Elitios wrote: Yes, one way to go among many, but THE most efficient way to go. infested terran harass can still be good in late game low econ slugfests I agree that its probably the best way to go in a tournament of this format where you play matches in the same day but for a gsl style format, i feel that having a single build will get you stomped out sooner than later. | ||
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Elitios
France164 Posts
On October 22 2013 02:24 stratmatt wrote: I agree that its probably the best way to go in a tournament of this format where you play matches in the same day but for a gsl style format, i feel that having a single build will get you stomped out sooner than later. Yeah, you are probably right. | ||
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Babbage
United States7 Posts
On October 22 2013 02:24 stratmatt wrote: I agree that its probably the best way to go in a tournament of this format where you play matches in the same day but for a gsl style format, i feel that having a single build will get you stomped out sooner than later. I think he went with one build cause he didnt have the practice time to fine tune many builds. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On October 22 2013 02:10 Elitios wrote: 4: why is that ? if you fungle medivacs for the mutas to kill or the marines for the banes, it still seems worth it, not counting the fact that infested terran harass can still be good in late game low econ slugfests Fungal is only good if you manage to chain it, it is not WoL and chain fungal is only easy if you actually catch medivacs in fungals. Next, you are making an assumption of good amounts of mutas, banes and infestors being affordable on 8 gas economy when you are constantly trading. | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
NIce writeup! | ||
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
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GulpyBlinkeyes
United States1449 Posts
And man, Blizzard should be so thankful to Polt for bringing at least some element of America-ness to WCS America. Not that he completely absolves them of the choices they've made about regions/residency for the WCS system, but I think his victories have helped triage a lot of the negative feelings people have toward the tournament. I think there'd have be a lot more grumbling and pitchforks (and a lot less viewers) if the finals had been something like Byul vs. Heart, for instance. | ||
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Moka
Canada942 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
but saw that video, holy shit. Those mutas evaporated >.> Congrats to Polt. Sad that Jaedong didn't get another chance this season  Good writeup! | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
That was a truly great game as well. (Also wrong map name) It had the entertaining element of Billy, and then a ridiculous come from behind victory from Polt. Byul's mutalisk attacks were on point. He came in and destroyed barracks addons crippling Polt in the early game. And denied and killed Polts 4th base several times over while putting up his own 5th and possibly 6th bases. It looked really bad for Polt until he all of a sudden killed all of Byuls mining bases at the same time. That game was in my pov a more exciting game than game 4 because it was not quite as drawn out and affected by fatigue. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 22 2013 02:44 Babbage wrote: I think he went with one build cause he didnt have the practice time to fine tune many builds. Nah, Polt usually keeps doing the same build as long as it works. Look at his GSL final vs MMA. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
Only a couple more to pull an Mvp. | ||
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SneX
Sweden377 Posts
 I've only watched game 4 as everyone recommended it and it was good Looking forward to the season finals! | ||
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