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On October 02 2013 22:36 shid0x wrote: It isn't really a bad news. We all knew (come on don't lie) that EGTL would probably not participate again. So its only logical.
so then is it good news? regardless the reason i say its bad
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Bad news. Bad news everywhere. (C)
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ofc it can, even bw had to grow , I just hope blizz finds a way like they did with bw.
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make it sc2 f2p and then we will see eg-tl again
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I think with the success of Alliance EG is starting to focus less of star, and more on dota
but inst that how esports franchises should operate,
no game will carry on forever you have to adjust with what games are popular
its much more dynamic than, say an NFL franchise
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Thanks a lot for the transparency Nazgul!
Love that you are so open about stuff that concerns us, the fans.
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Hwanni! I hope he finds a good home!
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I always thought the EG korean house was a temporary thing. I dunno, guess if you think the sky is falling then this is terrible news. /shrug
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can't be happy on this one :/ even though i don't like eg it's still bad news- unless they will compensate for this soon hope we will still have a team next pro league...
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all these news... it feels like world war z
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One man's bad news is another's good news.
This will only strengthen EG's foreigner presence. Frankly, I, and I am sure many others as well, are sick and tired of Koreans taking over our teams.
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On October 02 2013 22:15 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 22:12 Thrill wrote: Wow, that's a heavy blow. Proleague is the last thing i care about in SC2 outside of show tournaments like dreamhack and i guess blizzcon.
All hail Riot, our new eSports overlords. Doin everything right where Blizzard are doing everything wrong. Until they abandon the game and move on and there are no other events out there because Riot runs them all. Actaully I wonder how would Riot organize StarCraft esport scene.
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On October 03 2013 06:39 HardlyNever wrote: The irony in all this is that this might be what ultimately breaks the korean dominance in sc2 (not EGTL house closing). What I mean is if sc2 becomes no longer viable as an esport in korea (or incredibly tiny) we might see what most people claim they want to see: a scene dominated by "foreigners," mostly europeans.
I still think we are a long way away from that, but I think the only way we will see koreans lose their dominance of the scene is if they basically just stop playing the game. Will the quality of the games suffer? Probably? Will the "community" care? Who knows?
Can sc2 even survive without Korea?
I like to think so, since the best crowds so far have been at foreign events like the GSL finals at Blizzcon, that first full year of MLG, Dreamhack,e ct.
Of course there's the huge caveat that a lot of these events generated a lot of hype from having top-level Koreans playing at them.
Right now, Europe isn't on-par with Korea when it comes to SC2 skill (overall that is and I guess at the very top level). But WCS_EU is going strong, they still have lots of small events / non-WCS events. They also haven't seen a total flood of Koreans, nor total domination by the ones that did go and for the most parts the ones that went are popular in Europe too. So I think your perspective on this really changes based on if you're looking at foreign scene from the perspective NA or Europe.
On October 03 2013 08:00 nimdil wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 22:15 Plansix wrote:On October 02 2013 22:12 Thrill wrote: Wow, that's a heavy blow. Proleague is the last thing i care about in SC2 outside of show tournaments like dreamhack and i guess blizzcon.
All hail Riot, our new eSports overlords. Doin everything right where Blizzard are doing everything wrong. Until they abandon the game and move on and there are no other events out there because Riot runs them all. Actaully I wonder how would Riot organize StarCraft esport scene.
Probably the way they're managing it now, after all Riot had the advantage of watching on Blizzard approached SC2 and make their own decisions based on that experience. I guess they also had the advantage of not having to worry about Kespa or what not in transitioning (then again, seems they more or less ignored the existing Dota scene when promoting LoL as an eSports).
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On October 03 2013 07:39 disciple wrote: all these news... it feels like world war z
Does that mean Incontrol gets to pretend he's Brad Pitt?
In all seriousness, I think this is overall just an effect of the Korean SC2 scene undergoing some reorganization and realignments. Can SC2 survive without Korea? Better than BW, but then BW wasn't as big as SC2 is now on a global basis. So a smaller Korean scene could be detrimenal, but I think it's just change. Overall I don't think SC2 esports is dying. (Hell, there are smaller communities around games that are still going strong.)
SC2 might not be the flagship for eSports that it may have been for a little while a year or two ago. That's okay. I wouldn't worry unless the next announcement is Coca going back to LoL, and Flash going with him.
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On October 03 2013 08:15 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 07:39 disciple wrote: all these news... it feels like world war z Does that mean Incontrol gets to pretend he's Brad Pitt? In all seriousness, I think this is overall just an effect of the Korean SC2 scene undergoing some reorganization and realignments. Can SC2 survive without Korea? Better than BW, but then BW wasn't as big as SC2 is now on a global basis. So a smaller Korean scene could be detrimenal, but I think it's just change. Overall I don't think SC2 esports is dying. (Hell, there are smaller communities around games that are still going strong.) SC2 might not be the flagship for eSports that it may have been for a little while a year or two ago. That's okay. I wouldn't worry unless the next announcement is Coca going back to LoL, and Flash going with him. Did Brad Pitt get a raise in WWZ? Seriously though, I think PL was the best thing to happen to both EG & TL in a long time (aside from recruiting Jaedong I guess), sucks they won't be competing again, assuming PL will in fact happen again of course.
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Didn't everyone know this was going to happen months ago?
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On October 03 2013 06:50 Requiem- wrote:ofc it can, even bw had to grow , I just hope blizz finds a way like they did with bw. wasn't their way to not do anything? aka not interfere?
I would also consider how big bw was outside korea.
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On October 03 2013 06:50 Requiem- wrote:ofc it can, even bw had to grow , I just hope blizz finds a way like they did with bw.
Blizzard didn't find a way to make Brood War grow. People in Korea did.
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Thought they would get a chance when Kespa players were in transition. Turned out they were the bottom feeders. Now that Kespa players are fully transitioned, they better get the heck out there as fast as possible.
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