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di4m0nd
Profile Joined June 2010
United States297 Posts
September 10 2013 16:28 GMT
#941
GG
sad to see my second Fav Toss retire but I cant say i didnt see it coming.
Best of luck to you and maybe after his military service he will contribute one way or another to the Korean Esports scene
TLO | MC | Taeja | MarineKing | Alicia | HerO | PartinG | Bomber | Genius | MMA | CoCa | HuK | DRG | YugiOh | MVP | Jjakji | Stardust | Snute | Scarlett
Metap
Profile Joined September 2012
31 Posts
September 10 2013 16:51 GMT
#942
Real life > PC => good luck to you Bisu
Those "smart" guys think Cannabis Oil can treat some pain and that's it. They have no idea that Cannabis Oil will actually completely kill the cancer, cure and recover the body to the full. Do a research and be amazed how easy it is to kill cancer.
Griffith`
Profile Joined September 2010
714 Posts
September 10 2013 17:03 GMT
#943
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?
griffith.583 (NA)
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 10 2013 17:07 GMT
#944
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 17:12:57
September 10 2013 17:12 GMT
#945
On September 11 2013 02:07 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?

I hear this Innovation guy is a pretty good up and comer from Kepsa. Just rumors though and I think he signed to a non-kespa team, so he might suck now.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8764 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 17:14:14
September 10 2013 17:14 GMT
#946
On September 11 2013 02:12 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 02:07 Grumbels wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?

I hear this Innovation guy is a pretty good up and comer from Kepsa. Just rumors though and I think he signed to a non-kespa team, so he might suck now.

no bw fan cares about innovation. he was bogus (pun intended)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 10 2013 17:24 GMT
#947
On September 11 2013 02:14 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:07 Grumbels wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?

I hear this Innovation guy is a pretty good up and comer from Kepsa. Just rumors though and I think he signed to a non-kespa team, so he might suck now.

no bw fan cares about innovation. he was bogus (pun intended)

Well, we care about him here in SC2, hes pretty great. Same with Jaedong and Flash. Stork and Fantasy could be awesome too, but they haven't ripped it up at a Dreamhack or IEM.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 10 2013 17:29 GMT
#948
On September 11 2013 02:24 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 02:14 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:07 Grumbels wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?

I hear this Innovation guy is a pretty good up and comer from Kepsa. Just rumors though and I think he signed to a non-kespa team, so he might suck now.

no bw fan cares about innovation. he was bogus (pun intended)

Well, we care about him here in SC2, hes pretty great. Same with Jaedong and Flash. Stork and Fantasy could be awesome too, but they haven't ripped it up at a Dreamhack or IEM.

The post was about the 'remaining big names'.

Bogus is not a 'big name' in that context.
Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
September 10 2013 17:34 GMT
#949
My favorite toss retires...goodbye Bisu, u were my inspiration.
what happened, happened...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 10 2013 17:35 GMT
#950
On September 11 2013 02:29 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 02:24 Plansix wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:14 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:12 Plansix wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:07 Grumbels wrote:
On September 11 2013 02:03 Griffith` wrote:
so of the remaining big names, who's left?

Flash and effort?

? effort over jaedong, stork, fantasy?

I hear this Innovation guy is a pretty good up and comer from Kepsa. Just rumors though and I think he signed to a non-kespa team, so he might suck now.

no bw fan cares about innovation. he was bogus (pun intended)

Well, we care about him here in SC2, hes pretty great. Same with Jaedong and Flash. Stork and Fantasy could be awesome too, but they haven't ripped it up at a Dreamhack or IEM.

The post was about the 'remaining big names'.

Bogus is not a 'big name' in that context.

Yes, I got it. I was just pointing out that some people transitioned better than others and some of the stars made it over. And some new stars appeared when they came over.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 17:46:09
September 10 2013 17:45 GMT
#951
Putting the difference between games aside, if you think about it, Bisu's retirement is not that surprising. If we think about esports age, Bisu is one of the oldest one out there. He debuted was like in 2005, from top of my head, I can only remember Stork who was there before him.

Bisu has been in competitive progaming for 8 years, which is quite respectable. People like Nal_ra, Nada, iloveoov,... retires because they're too "esports" old for their shit. It might be the same case for Bisu, he's too "esports" old already.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
September 10 2013 17:47 GMT
#952
Welcome back Bisu
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 10 2013 17:49 GMT
#953
On September 11 2013 02:47 Jragon wrote:
Welcome back Bisu

Yayyy, normal BW fan here,
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3413 Posts
September 10 2013 18:17 GMT
#954
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Horang2 fan
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 10 2013 18:34 GMT
#955
Farewell sweet prince
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
ToAn8
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
September 10 2013 18:49 GMT
#956
gg
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 10 2013 18:55 GMT
#957
On September 10 2013 23:54 vthree wrote:
lol, I was just thinking what would happen if BW and SC2 was switched around (everything) game mechanics and player. Blizzard 'forcing' the SC2 pros and Kespa to BW

SC2 fanboi 1:"WTF was Blizzard thinking with BW? Total unbalanced maps? Only 12 units selection? Can't blizzard program? Random path bugs? Reavers, random generator? Blizzard is killing eSports!!!"

SC2 fanboi 2:"Innovation, Rain is going to take over BW in 2 months since they are RTS geniuses. Flash, JD, Bisu were dish washers in SC2 and even B-teamers like Ragnarok, Trust is going to roll over them."

SC2 fanboi 3:"Rain just announced his retirement because he didn't enjoy BW anymore. The protoss race just doesn't reward his strong safe and macro play. He probably should have switched to BW mech terran."

Hahhaaha pretty accurate from a fanboi point of view.

Dead wrong from a gameplay point of view.
Jaedong.
MercurialVanjal
Profile Joined January 2013
14 Posts
September 10 2013 19:09 GMT
#958
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fulkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Parting,Hero,Bomber
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 10 2013 19:16 GMT
#959
On September 11 2013 03:55 Kal_rA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 23:54 vthree wrote:
lol, I was just thinking what would happen if BW and SC2 was switched around (everything) game mechanics and player. Blizzard 'forcing' the SC2 pros and Kespa to BW

SC2 fanboi 1:"WTF was Blizzard thinking with BW? Total unbalanced maps? Only 12 units selection? Can't blizzard program? Random path bugs? Reavers, random generator? Blizzard is killing eSports!!!"

SC2 fanboi 2:"Innovation, Rain is going to take over BW in 2 months since they are RTS geniuses. Flash, JD, Bisu were dish washers in SC2 and even B-teamers like Ragnarok, Trust is going to roll over them."

SC2 fanboi 3:"Rain just announced his retirement because he didn't enjoy BW anymore. The protoss race just doesn't reward his strong safe and macro play. He probably should have switched to BW mech terran."

Hahhaaha pretty accurate from a fanboi point of view.

Dead wrong from a gameplay point of view.

So far the only guys who were derailing this thread were fanbois or the ones pretending to be ones (i bet they play hellokitty island full-time :3)
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 19:40:15
September 10 2013 19:39 GMT
#960
BIG NAMES:
Flash, FanTaSy
Stork,
Jaedong, EffOrt, ZerO
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