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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44240 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 02:24:04
August 25 2013 02:23 GMT
#41
On August 25 2013 10:57 XtreMe_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 10:27 astray71 wrote:
I want a Taeja vs Jaedong finals. Not only for the TL vs EG rivalry, but mostly because it means that Taeja will have fought all of the Kespa 'gods' of their respective race: Innovation, Rain and Jaedong. Toughest road out of anyone o.O

Soulkey**

JD is still not the Kespa 'God' of zerg .. he is playing really well but not at the top .. soulkey still at the top in terms of zvt
this is a quote
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 25 2013 02:24 GMT
#42
On August 25 2013 09:13 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
<h3>Semi-Final #1: Jaedong vs. First Preview</h3>by Zealously, who correctly predicted INnoVation to be eliminated in the Ro16


Man, that just makes me want to search out the previous thread and quote all the doubters .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 25 2013 02:29 GMT
#43
On August 25 2013 11:24 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 09:13 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
<h3>Semi-Final #1: Jaedong vs. First Preview</h3>by Zealously, who correctly predicted INnoVation to be eliminated in the Ro16


Man, that just makes me want to search out the previous thread and quote all the doubters .


Someone already did that. Here ya go:


On August 24 2013 11:45 mbr2321 wrote:
I'm just going to go ahead and compile a good amount of QFTs here:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2013 03:10 needcomputer wrote:
I would bet my life's money that your prediction is so very very wrong. That is all.

Innovation loses a couple times so he has actually lost his skill permanently?


On August 23 2013 03:11 scsnow wrote:
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Taeja and Naniwa advance to the Round of 8


with this season's EU champ and previous season global champ going out... no way dude.


On August 23 2013 03:17 Fr0st1 wrote:
Considering INnoVation is 24-6 against mostly top korean protoss players, I really don't see him losing to duckdoek or Naniwa.


On August 23 2013 03:34 StarStruck wrote:
You're crazy. Bogus will be fine.


On August 23 2013 03:37 Godwrath wrote:
The prediction is quite bold. It is not like Innovation's TvP is bad. I can see Taeja winning (even tho it would be an upset for me), but no way he loses to Naniwa or Dolan. And Naniwa beating Dolan is even more unlikely.

The group will go as follows

Innovation
Duckdeok
Taeja
Naniwa.


On August 23 2013 03:40 Musicus wrote:
Innovation losing to Taeja and Duckdeok. I didn't know Zealously was a crazy person.


On August 23 2013 03:43 rshawer wrote:
So apparently naniwa will advance over Innovation, and Duckdeok will beat Innovation? Dang, the writers must be on some strong european mary jane


On August 23 2013 03:45 heartlxp wrote:
hahahahaha, the best player in the world loses 2 series and somehow will lose to ppl who can't even cut it in KR, okay!


On August 23 2013 04:15 -niL wrote:
Innovation stomp is obvious


On August 23 2013 04:23 shid0x wrote:
Zealously you're drunk,go home.


On August 23 2013 04:24 ThePlagueJG wrote:
If I had money I would literally give you lots of it if the prediction comes through xD

Though I think NaNiwa can win a game in the group for some extra points never count that out.


On August 23 2013 04:25 TsGBruzze wrote:
WTF is wrong with the predictions?


On August 23 2013 04:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:
I'm going to laugh when this is so wrong.


On August 23 2013 04:41 FatCat_13 wrote:
The author's problem is that he assumes Naniwa and Duckdeok are the level of Parting. This assumption is wrong so is the prediction. Innovation is likely to outclass all three his opponents in this group to a fair 3-0.


On August 23 2013 04:44 dastrokes wrote:
Yeah, not gonna happen. I can see Innovation lose to Taeja, but duckdeok?


On August 23 2013 04:45 Blargh wrote:
Now, I'm a big Naniwa fan, but no.


On August 23 2013 04:50 LeviathanDK wrote:
foreign biased prediction... going to love watching it fail


On August 23 2013 04:58 Ameisenmann wrote:
This prediction will be wronger than wrong.


On August 23 2013 05:15 Zeon0 wrote:
dat prediction :D

Innovation will stomp everyone in this group, there are no Code S Level players. Duckdeok isnt good enough for Korea, same goes for Taeja. He will stomp everyone who didnt qualify through Korea


On August 23 2013 05:40 Nirel wrote:
Pffft, thats never going to happen lol. obvious bias


On August 23 2013 05:49 FanaticCZ wrote:
haha...this prediction is so wrong


On August 23 2013 06:14 HandleTaken wrote:
If your predictions come true I will happily eat a hat

Please make it true Naniwa...



On August 23 2013 06:20 forsooth wrote:
Someone needs to take away your pitcher of foreigner kool-aid, you've clearly had too much.


On August 23 2013 06:20 lamiller wrote:
What crack pipe is OP smoking?


On August 23 2013 06:21 Mairo wrote:
This is beyond crazy. The fact you're betting against the best player in the world whose skill honestly can't be determined by losing two matches is beyond silly. I think you are focusing on the negatives on Innovation, and focusing on the positives of Naniwa and Duck, because what you're doing is seeing past the domination Innovation had in Proleague (whose skill-ceiling is above the roof) and his domination before dropping out of WCS. That you think the player with all these accomplishments will lose out is completely beyond me. But, if you are right then I'll be the first one to admit you were right all along, but as it stands now based on that there's no way that Naniwa or Duck could make it past ro16 in WCS Korea I'd say your chances of getting this right is more than slim, hell it's minute.


On August 23 2013 06:30 c0ldfusion wrote:
Wow that's a lousy prediction.. yeah OK...

I placed my liquid bet already.


On August 23 2013 06:41 Schelim wrote:
yeah no. it's gonna be Taeja in first and Innovation in second place. but i'm fine with anything as long as Naniwa doesn't advance.


On August 23 2013 06:49 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Zealously really likes to see Innovation get crushed. Purely emotional prediction, nothing logical.


On August 23 2013 07:15 skylarr wrote:
who made these predictions? do you honestly think innovation is going to lose this group?


On August 23 2013 07:20 Bagration wrote:
It would be a surprise if Innovation didn't win his group, much less finish last in his group.

It's funny, Innovation makes it to the Ro4 of the OSL, and qualifies for WCG by getting 3rd at WCG Korea, and these are actually considered bad results for him.


On August 23 2013 07:44 9-BiT wrote:
If only there was a way to bet against your predictions, I would be a millionaire.


And, just because it's so beautifully relevant (and a bit cheeky):

Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 05:47 Popkiller wrote:
if zealously gets this one right we'll never hear the end of it.


NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
August 25 2013 02:29 GMT
#44
I feel like a Taeja Jaedong finals will happen, and the tyrant will take yet another 2nd place
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 25 2013 02:33 GMT
#45
On August 25 2013 11:29 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 11:24 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On August 25 2013 09:13 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
<h3>Semi-Final #1: Jaedong vs. First Preview</h3>by Zealously, who correctly predicted INnoVation to be eliminated in the Ro16


Man, that just makes me want to search out the previous thread and quote all the doubters .


Someone already did that. Here ya go:


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:45 mbr2321 wrote:
I'm just going to go ahead and compile a good amount of QFTs here:

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2013 03:10 needcomputer wrote:
I would bet my life's money that your prediction is so very very wrong. That is all.

Innovation loses a couple times so he has actually lost his skill permanently?


On August 23 2013 03:11 scsnow wrote:
Show nested quote +
Taeja and Naniwa advance to the Round of 8


with this season's EU champ and previous season global champ going out... no way dude.


On August 23 2013 03:17 Fr0st1 wrote:
Considering INnoVation is 24-6 against mostly top korean protoss players, I really don't see him losing to duckdoek or Naniwa.


On August 23 2013 03:34 StarStruck wrote:
You're crazy. Bogus will be fine.


On August 23 2013 03:37 Godwrath wrote:
The prediction is quite bold. It is not like Innovation's TvP is bad. I can see Taeja winning (even tho it would be an upset for me), but no way he loses to Naniwa or Dolan. And Naniwa beating Dolan is even more unlikely.

The group will go as follows

Innovation
Duckdeok
Taeja
Naniwa.


On August 23 2013 03:40 Musicus wrote:
Innovation losing to Taeja and Duckdeok. I didn't know Zealously was a crazy person.


On August 23 2013 03:43 rshawer wrote:
So apparently naniwa will advance over Innovation, and Duckdeok will beat Innovation? Dang, the writers must be on some strong european mary jane


On August 23 2013 03:45 heartlxp wrote:
hahahahaha, the best player in the world loses 2 series and somehow will lose to ppl who can't even cut it in KR, okay!


On August 23 2013 04:15 -niL wrote:
Innovation stomp is obvious


On August 23 2013 04:23 shid0x wrote:
Zealously you're drunk,go home.


On August 23 2013 04:24 ThePlagueJG wrote:
If I had money I would literally give you lots of it if the prediction comes through xD

Though I think NaNiwa can win a game in the group for some extra points never count that out.


On August 23 2013 04:25 TsGBruzze wrote:
WTF is wrong with the predictions?


On August 23 2013 04:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:
I'm going to laugh when this is so wrong.


On August 23 2013 04:41 FatCat_13 wrote:
The author's problem is that he assumes Naniwa and Duckdeok are the level of Parting. This assumption is wrong so is the prediction. Innovation is likely to outclass all three his opponents in this group to a fair 3-0.


On August 23 2013 04:44 dastrokes wrote:
Yeah, not gonna happen. I can see Innovation lose to Taeja, but duckdeok?


On August 23 2013 04:45 Blargh wrote:
Now, I'm a big Naniwa fan, but no.


On August 23 2013 04:50 LeviathanDK wrote:
foreign biased prediction... going to love watching it fail


On August 23 2013 04:58 Ameisenmann wrote:
This prediction will be wronger than wrong.


On August 23 2013 05:15 Zeon0 wrote:
dat prediction :D

Innovation will stomp everyone in this group, there are no Code S Level players. Duckdeok isnt good enough for Korea, same goes for Taeja. He will stomp everyone who didnt qualify through Korea


On August 23 2013 05:40 Nirel wrote:
Pffft, thats never going to happen lol. obvious bias


On August 23 2013 05:49 FanaticCZ wrote:
haha...this prediction is so wrong


On August 23 2013 06:14 HandleTaken wrote:
If your predictions come true I will happily eat a hat

Please make it true Naniwa...



On August 23 2013 06:20 forsooth wrote:
Someone needs to take away your pitcher of foreigner kool-aid, you've clearly had too much.


On August 23 2013 06:20 lamiller wrote:
What crack pipe is OP smoking?


On August 23 2013 06:21 Mairo wrote:
This is beyond crazy. The fact you're betting against the best player in the world whose skill honestly can't be determined by losing two matches is beyond silly. I think you are focusing on the negatives on Innovation, and focusing on the positives of Naniwa and Duck, because what you're doing is seeing past the domination Innovation had in Proleague (whose skill-ceiling is above the roof) and his domination before dropping out of WCS. That you think the player with all these accomplishments will lose out is completely beyond me. But, if you are right then I'll be the first one to admit you were right all along, but as it stands now based on that there's no way that Naniwa or Duck could make it past ro16 in WCS Korea I'd say your chances of getting this right is more than slim, hell it's minute.


On August 23 2013 06:30 c0ldfusion wrote:
Wow that's a lousy prediction.. yeah OK...

I placed my liquid bet already.


On August 23 2013 06:41 Schelim wrote:
yeah no. it's gonna be Taeja in first and Innovation in second place. but i'm fine with anything as long as Naniwa doesn't advance.


On August 23 2013 06:49 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Zealously really likes to see Innovation get crushed. Purely emotional prediction, nothing logical.


On August 23 2013 07:15 skylarr wrote:
who made these predictions? do you honestly think innovation is going to lose this group?


On August 23 2013 07:20 Bagration wrote:
It would be a surprise if Innovation didn't win his group, much less finish last in his group.

It's funny, Innovation makes it to the Ro4 of the OSL, and qualifies for WCG by getting 3rd at WCG Korea, and these are actually considered bad results for him.


On August 23 2013 07:44 9-BiT wrote:
If only there was a way to bet against your predictions, I would be a millionaire.


And, just because it's so beautifully relevant (and a bit cheeky):

On August 23 2013 05:47 Popkiller wrote:
if zealously gets this one right we'll never hear the end of it.




Thank you so much!
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 25 2013 02:36 GMT
#46
On August 25 2013 11:23 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 10:57 XtreMe_au wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:27 astray71 wrote:
I want a Taeja vs Jaedong finals. Not only for the TL vs EG rivalry, but mostly because it means that Taeja will have fought all of the Kespa 'gods' of their respective race: Innovation, Rain and Jaedong. Toughest road out of anyone o.O

Soulkey**

JD is still not the Kespa 'God' of zerg .. he is playing really well but not at the top .. soulkey still at the top in terms of zvt

He's not even KeSPA anymore ...
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
August 25 2013 02:37 GMT
#47
On August 25 2013 09:15 Iodem wrote:
Jaedong Bomber is the best possible finals. Both are destined for 2nd place, so it'll be the battle of the chokers.

Either Taeja vs First or Taeja vs Jaedong would arguably be 4 - 0's for Taeja.

Edit:
Oh, and here's a better picture of First

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


2nd Edit:

Okay I'd like to correct myself. Apparently the last time TaeJa and Jaedong played each other (Dreamhack) Jaedong won 2 - 0

Yay currently playing that game so I recognized him :D
spamuwen
Profile Joined January 2013
United States7 Posts
August 25 2013 02:38 GMT
#48
Bomber / Jaedong 3-4. I believe!!!
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
August 25 2013 02:41 GMT
#49
People are really sleeping on First. I understand he's nowhere near as big a name as Jaedong, nor is he a longtime fan favorite like Bomber or a teamliquid player like Taeja, but in terms of actual Starcraft skill he should not be underestimated. He's LG-IM's best Protoss, and given that they have arguably the most stacked Protoss lineup of any team, that's pretty impressive. I think he's got as good a chance to win this as any of the more well known players.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 25 2013 02:41 GMT
#50
No way Bomber is gonna beat Taeja lol, don't ever forget about Bomber's law.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 25 2013 03:01 GMT
#51
Agreed, but 3-2 scorelines imo.

Bomber > Jaedong 4-3
oucho
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom22 Posts
August 25 2013 03:05 GMT
#52
I hope bomber, taeja or jaedong win, I actually do like First but the other guys all have better stories haha, and taeja is so cute :3
im cool yo
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
August 25 2013 03:06 GMT
#53
So you finally support Jaedong huh?

<Jaedong believer since the first game of the finals.


Predicting Jaedong vs Taeja finals.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 25 2013 03:16 GMT
#54
images aren't loading for me. anyone else the same with this article?
Someone call down the Thunder?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 25 2013 03:20 GMT
#55
Zealousy getting that sweet revenge :D
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 03:26:27
August 25 2013 03:25 GMT
#56
On August 25 2013 11:36 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 11:23 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:57 XtreMe_au wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:27 astray71 wrote:
I want a Taeja vs Jaedong finals. Not only for the TL vs EG rivalry, but mostly because it means that Taeja will have fought all of the Kespa 'gods' of their respective race: Innovation, Rain and Jaedong. Toughest road out of anyone o.O

Soulkey**

JD is still not the Kespa 'God' of zerg .. he is playing really well but not at the top .. soulkey still at the top in terms of zvt

He's not even KeSPA anymore ...


I think people are confused he still is. It's more of a "lease" for EG then an actual acquirement.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 03:38:36
August 25 2013 03:32 GMT
#57
On August 25 2013 12:25 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 11:36 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:23 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:57 XtreMe_au wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:27 astray71 wrote:
I want a Taeja vs Jaedong finals. Not only for the TL vs EG rivalry, but mostly because it means that Taeja will have fought all of the Kespa 'gods' of their respective race: Innovation, Rain and Jaedong. Toughest road out of anyone o.O

Soulkey**

JD is still not the Kespa 'God' of zerg .. he is playing really well but not at the top .. soulkey still at the top in terms of zvt

He's not even KeSPA anymore ...


I think people are confused he still is. It's more of a "lease" for EG then an actual acquirement.

I assume you mean "loan," which was what the Korean news sites were trying to pass it off as. This has been refuted by EG management. JD's not on loan, and he's not bound by contract to return to T8 now that they have a sponsor. He's an EG player, same as any other EG player, and he'll join or not join a KeSPA team in the future based on his own wishes.

EDIT: Just saw the DES article you were talking about where they refer to it as a "lease," which clarifies what you're talking about. It seems he is still legally bound to KeSPA. Still, calling him a KeSPA player "by legalities only" makes pretty much no sense in any context.
ladysman09
Profile Joined June 2013
237 Posts
August 25 2013 03:33 GMT
#58
On August 25 2013 09:56 ffrozenfish wrote:
This final four is so good


Alive should have beaten First if he didn't make any mistakes. Also, coming from USA, Alive was very very jetlagged, unlike First. That also played a huge role.

Alive actually should have 3-0'd First being the more experienced and much more talented player, not to take anything away from First, but he just got lucky alive is a choker and was jet lagged.

And Naniwa made way WAY too many mistakes against Jaedong. I don't think JD's ZvP improved at all, it's just that his Protoss opponents made way too many mistakes. Rain, let's not even talk about him, and MC? Well first off he failed his all ins from micro mistakes and secondly he did Masters mistakes like forgetting the zealot at the hole.

tl;dr...alive is better than first, and naniwa, mc and rain are all better than JD, they just made mistakes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 25 2013 03:35 GMT
#59
On August 25 2013 12:33 ladysman09 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 09:56 ffrozenfish wrote:
This final four is so good


Alive should have beaten First if he didn't make any mistakes. Also, coming from USA, Alive was very very jetlagged, unlike First. That also played a huge role.

Alive actually should have 3-0'd First being the more experienced and much more talented player, not to take anything away from First, but he just got lucky alive is a choker and was jet lagged.

And Naniwa made way WAY too many mistakes against Jaedong. I don't think JD's ZvP improved at all, it's just that his Protoss opponents made way too many mistakes. Rain, let's not even talk about him, and MC? Well first off he failed his all ins from micro mistakes and secondly he did Masters mistakes like forgetting the zealot at the hole.

tl;dr...alive is better than first, and naniwa, mc and rain are all better than JD, they just made mistakes.

First came from Korea. They probably both came from Korea.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 25 2013 03:36 GMT
#60
On August 25 2013 12:32 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 12:25 Lysanias wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:36 babylon wrote:
On August 25 2013 11:23 goody153 wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:57 XtreMe_au wrote:
On August 25 2013 10:27 astray71 wrote:
I want a Taeja vs Jaedong finals. Not only for the TL vs EG rivalry, but mostly because it means that Taeja will have fought all of the Kespa 'gods' of their respective race: Innovation, Rain and Jaedong. Toughest road out of anyone o.O

Soulkey**

JD is still not the Kespa 'God' of zerg .. he is playing really well but not at the top .. soulkey still at the top in terms of zvt

He's not even KeSPA anymore ...


I think people are confused he still is. It's more of a "lease" for EG then an actual acquirement.

I assume you mean "loan," which was what the Korean news sites were trying to pass it off as. This has been refuted by EG management. JD's not on loan, and he's not bound by contract to return to T8 now that they have a sponsor. He's an EG player, same as any other EG player, and he'll join or not join a KeSPA team in the future based on his own wishes.


I thought it was not possible to require a player because of the trade lock period by kespa, but alright i guess i stand corrected on that.
Did he just not have a contract with T8 ? Or was the trade lock only there for eSF and kespa.
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