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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
Hello TeamLiquid. Here is the official statement I promised on FXO NA and more. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424279#9
I apologize for releasing it so late. I've been busy :/
FXOpen North America was formed back in late October of 2012 after FXO decided to absorb  Team Legion. FXO released this thread in October of 2012 to announce the start of the NA division for FXO.
FXOpen North America was very active in the beginning. I would say late January and early February of 2013 was when we were in our prime. We had a very strong roster of 15 players at one point:
 AuRora
Crazy
Drunkenboi
Neeb
 Future
desRow
TheoRy
kaRmy
RemarK
 Shield
Moosegills
jEcho
SirRobin
JimRising
 Power
The goal of FXOpen North America was to create a team with a training environment for up and coming NA players. We tried to find players with a lot of potential and hidden talent and focused on brewing that talent to maximum potential. FXO NA was kind of like an academy team where NA players would have the opportunity to move to FXO Korea and pursue a pro gaming career in Korea if the NA players proved themselves to that level of capability.
Unfortunately, FXOpen North America did not have any funding or support to send our players to live events or tournaments. The goal was that the FXO Company would provide financial support if a player proved him/herself enough to the point where FXO would feel that investing into that player would be worth it. However, FXO NA was never able to get to that point. Also, since FXO also had a Korean SC2 division, all of the funding went into FXO Korea since FXO Korea was a force to be reckoned with, while FXO NA still hadn't proved itself.
A lot of people asked why FXO did not advertise the NA team or the KR team. Honestly, we really did try our best. We developed this really awesome new web site, established a staff purely for public content, and we put our highest priority and the majority of our focus into PR for the year 2013. Unfortunately, a lot of things got in the way during the process and things just didn't end up working out. We had so many great things in stored for the future that I was so heartbroken to see that none of it ever got executed.
I also saw a lot of comments from people asking if FXO NA ever participated in team leagues or anything like that.
During our 10 months of activity before disbanding, FXO NA participated in:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_IGN_Pro_Team_League_Season_1/Amateur_Division#Group_4
ZGT Team League (1st Place)
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup/US_KR_Qualifiers#Results
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Acer_TeamStory_Cup/US_Qualifiers#Results
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:Team_OP/Team_OP/OpRace_Team_League (cancelled midway)
OMGL Season 1 (2nd Place)
Under Rated Team League Season 2 (4th Place)
I also kept a record of friendly CWs we participated in, as well as FXO NA inhouses that I came up with:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:Seeker/Results
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/User:Seeker/InHouse
Unfortunately, as we progressed into mid 2013, things started going downhill. Several FXO NA players started going really inactive and other started considering leaving FXO NA to pursue other opportunities. By the end of July, our roster had significantly reduced down to about 9 players and our team spirit at that point was pretty much at an all time low.
FXO started contemplating about whether or not we should just disband the NA team. Even though I made the decision to fight it out and try to keep the team running for as long as possible, an unforeseen happening occurred and Daniel "Unstable" Siddel, FXOpen e-Sports' CEO, decided to resign. Daniel's video statement on why he resigned
Daniel was the backbone of the whole FXO organization, so him resigning pretty much meant there was nothing left for us to work with. I disbanded the NA team and the FXO staff also now no longer exists.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/FXOpen_e-Sports#Organization
Choya - Unchanged
Darigaz - Resigned
Hell - Unchanged
Kumiho - Resigned
Raelcun - Resigned
Seeker - Translator
storywriter - Resigned
Supreme - Unchanged
Unstable - Resigned
Volt - Resigned
Zhurai - Resigned
So what does this mean for FXO Korea? Nothing. FXO Korea is perfectly fine. Choya will be managing all aspects of the Korea team in Daniel’s place and FXO will continue to sponsor the team and nothing will have changed. I am still functioning as a translator for FXO for now so everything’s all good there.
This is really great news considering how much potential the FXO Korea SC2 team and DotA 2 team hold. I hope many people are excited about the fact that FXO Korea will not be disbanding. Everyday Choya gets more and more excited for FXO’s future, so I hope this news will put a lot of people into eager anticipation of FXO’s performance to come.
Last but not least, I just want to take this moment to thank everyone I ever got to work with during my time with FXO. The players, the staff, friends, acquaintences, etc. etc. I will never forget any of you. I truly wish each and every one of you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
-Seeker
Special thanks to wo1fwood for providing graphics
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Two thumbs up for everyone related to FXO NA or KR's hard work and I hope everything works out as well as possible for everyone involved. A few of these guys have some talent that I'd hate to see wasted. I also had no idea storywriter did stuff for FXO :o
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Sad for NA (although nothing was lost, really) but nice to see FXO KR keeping up in their performance. I hope GuMiHo gets rid of his occasional slumps.
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I didn't learn a thing reading this statement. All I learned was that you had plans and things (though not detailed) occurred that prevented it from happening.
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On August 17 2013 06:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I didn't learn a thing reading this statement. All I learned was that you had plans and things (though not detailed) occurred that prevented it from happening.
I think he summed it up pretty well. The bumps in the road are private but it hindered what was planned. When players started leaving for other offers everyone seemed to be unmotivated to do anything and we agreed that FXO.NA wasn't working out.
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Seeker, come work for MVP!!
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Is frequency still part of of fxopen?
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On August 17 2013 06:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
All I learned was that you had plans and things (though not detailed) occurred that prevented it from happening.
Yes. What more did you expect?
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TLADT24920 Posts
Sad that the FXO NA team disbanded but it sounds like it was mutual according to what kaRmy said. Best of luck to everyone involved!
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Hm, not news of course, but still sad 
Best of luck to all involved!!
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Pardon the copy paste from the previous thread, but it does more justice here.
As a manager myself and someone that follows the scene, it is without a doubt in my mind that FXO NA was one of the premiere teams in the region. Ever since their inception, they set high standards in terms of player skill, and just as importantly, being well mannered and well run. It was an honor to play against them and to get to know their players and management.
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nvm, sorry to hear. i'd hope seeker picks up another management opportunity
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Sorry it didn't work out, sounds like you did your best with what you were given. Nobody it as fault here, It's simply an inevitability of the NA scene's lack of support.
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Damn, I am sad for the sexiest player of NA : RemarK!
I hope he'll find something (or go inactive, he should do fine there too)
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 06:58 Torte de Lini wrote:
I didn't learn a thing reading this statement. All I learned was that you had plans and things (though not detailed) occurred that prevented it from happening.
Torte. What more would you like to know? If I can answer them for you, I will.
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That really sucks. Hopefully the leftover players from FXO NA will be able to find some teams.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Aww too bad. With everyone complaining about 'NA needs a scene' having less pro teams is definitely not a good thing.
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No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go.
What are you talking about?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go.
Maybe read the first sentence of his post
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Did the whole Korean invasion of WCS NA thing have anything to do with this?
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Is it a news ?
I don't know why but i'm not surprised it feels like i already heard it somehow.
Well anyhow its sad that a team and a renamed one such as FXO had to leave but to be honest the rooster wasn't that good (was not even decent for FXO imo )
so yeah...
GL to the players in the future.
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On August 17 2013 12:12 shid0x wrote:
Is it a news ?
I don't know why but i'm not surprised it feels like i already heard it somehow.
Well anyhow its sad that a team and a renamed one such as FXO had to leave but to be honest the rooster wasn't that good (was not even decent for FXO imo )
so yeah...
GL to the players in the future.
♥ thats why we work hard to get better =D!
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 12:12 shid0x wrote:
Is it a news ?
I don't know why but i'm not surprised it feels like i already heard it somehow.
Well anyhow its sad that a team and a renamed one such as FXO had to leave but to be honest the rooster wasn't that good (was not even decent for FXO imo )
so yeah...
GL to the players in the future.
It was already revealed that we had disbanded. I just wanted to clarify some stuff with an official announcement and also answer some questions that have been lingering around for a while.
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On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go.
I believe Torte has questions.
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It's great to see Choya being able to step up and further his career in FXO :D, but it's pretty sad about FXO.NA , there's a bunch of good players that unfortunately didn't get much of a chance :/.
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On August 17 2013 07:17 ptbl wrote:
Is frequency still part of of fxopen?
Nope, I left December 2012.
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GG FXO.NA I really liked neeb. Hope they find new homes soon!
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such a shamble....
Hope the best for the players. NA has it hard they can't be a full time progamer like koreans are.
hope the best for Desrow and jecho.
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hate it for neeb~ but I think its good to purge the scene of "pro players" that don't have what it takes from time to time. Unfortunately, a lot of those guy on FXO NA haven't produced the kind of results needed. Wish everyone the best of luck in future endeavors, and especially hope to see Neeb get another shot with a new team.
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seems like Choya has a lot on his plate now
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On August 17 2013 11:59 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go. What are you talking about?
im not going to give you any more bumps, you can stop talking about it now. some reason you will continue to do that yourselves im sure.
edit: and i was right lol you're an idiot that keeps bumping your thread when no one gives a shit 
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 13:34 playLoud wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:59 Seeker wrote:On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go. What are you talking about? im not going to give you any more bumps, you can stop talking about it now. some reason you will continue to do that yourselves im sure.
lol okay. Well you clearly think I am doing this for attention or something like that so let me enlighten you. When these threads came up:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=421031
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=422518
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=424279
Many people were asking tons of questions. What is FXO NA? FXO had a NA division? Why haven't I heard of this team? What is this team's purpose? etc. etc.
So I stated that I was going to create a thread in the future explaining FXO NA and try to answer everyone's questions.
This is that thread. I don't know why you have some kind of problem with me and FXO NA, but none the the less, thanks for the bump and exposure ^^
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I enjoyed working with them all they are a blast, Seeker is a great translater and manager  his jokes crack me up
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Didn't they become na'vi?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 17 2013 14:25 Scones wrote:
Didn't they become na'vi?
That's (most of) FXO.EU iirc
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Best of luck to everyone! A lot of great talent on that squad.
I feel like this is another example of the catch 22 that the NA scene is often faced with. People try to create top tier NA players but have trouble doing it without money, and people don't want to invest money in NA because there are so few top tier players.
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Sad to hear this, glad FXO Korea remains, there are some truly talented players there. Seems like there are too many teams and players around, probably not enough money/resources in the scene to support everyone in the long term =/ I hope most teams will manage to stick together though.
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On August 17 2013 14:26 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
Best of luck to everyone! A lot of great talent on that squad.
I feel like this is another example of the catch 22 that the NA scene is often faced with. People try to create top tier NA players but have trouble doing it without money, and people don't want to invest money in NA because there are so few top tier players.
Yea it's annoying, very few want to invest actual money to get improvement. It's a lot cheaper to just slap a tag in front of their name and hope they get good.
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Hard times for sc2. Come october, expect to see more disbands. Just too saturated
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Although lesQQmorePEWPEW was a little blunt about it, I'm afraid s/he's correct. I'm expecting more disbands as NA becomes less and less able to maintain the standards needed to keep up on an international level. I don't know or pretend to know what the cause or the fix is.
Good luck to all the former FXO NA players!
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Well FXO NA were pretty bad anyways, so expected.
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NA SC2 is having trouble?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 18:01 FrostNixon wrote:
Well FXO NA were pretty bad anyways, so expected.
........The fuck?
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I am not completely buying the "Well the team was not good enough" angle.
Recently they also released their NA LoL team (or the team left them?), and they were the most promising NA amateur team, who had just won a MLG tournament.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 17 2013 18:20 Redox wrote:
I am not completely buying the "Well the team was not good enough" angle.
Recently they also released their NA LoL team (or the team left them?), and they were the most promising NA amateur team, who had just won a MLG tournament.
NA LoL matter was an entirely separate turn of events. The LoL team had nothing to do with the SC2 team.
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It's sad but unavoidable... SC2 NA scene do not existany more since 2010. No single NA player win anything since 3 years . It's a miracle that the team American still exist. The only player making result in tournament are korean player playing for EG.
SC2 NA player , plz, make something !
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the video with the reasoning behind Daniels resign is quite insightful, definitely recommended watch although a bit long
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There is some serious disrespect in this thread. We can't act civilized while someone is trying to flesh out the situation for us? If you already know all about it give us light-weights a chance to read up on it without polluting this thread with stupid observations.. ugh.
Best of luck to all parties involved, this is quite a sad day for Starcraft despite the nonsense that some are spewing.
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Well, this was news when it really wasn't news. I thought that FXO North America disbanded ages ago..? Maybe not officially but loads of people left.
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I really hope you'll keep continuing to fight Seeker. Best of luck to you and to the others of FXO NA that wish to continue.
I see a lot of disrespect posts. Just please go away.
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I wondered what happened to Unstable, shame he worked as hard as he did and it's ended so sourly
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On August 17 2013 22:31 Bodzilla wrote:I wondered what happened to Unstable, shame he worked as hard as he did and it's ended so sourly
If you watch his video he explains a lot..
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Would explain what I saw from RemarK recently, hope you still are doing some translation work for FXO Seeker.
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On August 17 2013 11:45 playLoud wrote:
No one is asking questions yet you feel you need to continue to address why FXO.NA shutdown. As you can see by the lack of posts there is no controversy just let it go.
People asked and he promised to do a post about it.. what's with the bad attitude?
GL seeker and the rest of the players
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Good luck to all the players that are looking for a team.
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I think you misslabeled AuRora in the OP.
As far as I know, she always played Zerg?
(or did she change to terran recently?)
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Except from Drunkenboi and Neeb, don't think that any of the other players even tried to make it.. Rlly bad, and rlly immature team overall (sorry for the less known players, but that's what DesRow makes it look like for everyone else overall)..
Kinda sad for those two Terran youngsters though.. :/
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I can see america is aehving troubles
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Seems like there's a lot of jelly in here. Sad to see one of the real NA teams go down, here's to hoping all of the players and management are able to find more opportunities in the industry. Good luck dudes. Props to Seeker for amazing effort regardless.
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I didn't know FXO had a NA division.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 18 2013 00:42 -Doji- wrote:
I think you misslabeled AuRora in the OP.
As far as I know, she always played Zerg?
(or did she change to terran recently?)
AuRora switched to Terran during early-mid 2013.
On August 18 2013 02:45 Witten wrote:
I didn't know FXO had a NA division.
You and a ton of other people
Hence, this thread.
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Sad to see more teams disbanding in the sc2 scene
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Hope that the promising talents on the team like Neeb and Drunkenboi can find a good team that can nurture them and offer them what they deserve!
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Well that sucks. I think Esports is dying. WCS isn't cutting it. It's killing tournaments and you need to have a lot of tournaments to grow esports. The problem is Blizzard wants to big of a piece of the action to make it worth while. If esports is going to succeed then the games that they play need to be Free To Play and not have any Tournament Licences. It also shouldn't be very hard to do it either because the U.S. population plays a lot of games.
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On August 18 2013 01:16 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Except from Drunkenboi and Neeb, don't think that any of the other players even tried to make it.. Rlly bad, and rlly immature team overall (sorry for the less known players, but that's what DesRow makes it look like for everyone else overall)..
Kinda sad for those two Terran youngsters though.. :/
I'm sure everyone on the team tried. But, I'm also pretty sure there are a number of those players are never going to be good enough to justify someone paying them a salary to continue being mediocre. If they had it in them, I think they would have already "made" it.
I hope purging some of the stagnant talent will free up money for some more promising talent.
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Nooooo Richard T.T. Why kick future out T.T
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So I'm guessing this is also why FXO LoL disbanded (or rather, made a new team)?
On August 18 2013 06:31 dashpar wrote:
Well that sucks. I think Esports is dying. WCS isn't cutting it. It's killing tournaments and you need to have a lot of tournaments to grow esports. The problem is Blizzard wants to big of a piece of the action to make it worth while. If esports is going to succeed then the games that they play need to be Free To Play and not have any Tournament Licences. It also shouldn't be very hard to do it either because the U.S. population plays a lot of games.
Just because SC2 isn't doing so well doesn't mean eSports as a whole is dying. "eSports" encompasses a lot of games, such as LoL and Dota 2, which are both very successful. Also, I disagree with your statement that a lot of tournaments are needed to grow eSports. Look at LoL, they only have a few major tournaments every year, yet they're doing so well. However, I do agree that it is better if the game is free-to-play. I mean, who doesn't like it when the game is free (and not pay-to-win, obviously)?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 18 2013 11:50 Laneir wrote:
Nooooo Richard T.T. Why kick future out T.T
? We didn't kick Future out.
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On August 18 2013 06:31 dashpar wrote:
Well that sucks. I think Esports is dying. WCS isn't cutting it. It's killing tournaments and you need to have a lot of tournaments to grow esports. The problem is Blizzard wants to big of a piece of the action to make it worth while. If esports is going to succeed then the games that they play need to be Free To Play and not have any Tournament Licences. It also shouldn't be very hard to do it either because the U.S. population plays a lot of games.
eSports is not dying and WCS is doing great..having a year-long tournament with the best players with top notch production is great. I almost never miss a day of WCS EU.
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On August 18 2013 01:16 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Except from Drunkenboi and Neeb, don't think that any of the other players even tried to make it.. Rlly bad, and rlly immature team overall (sorry for the less known players, but that's what DesRow makes it look like for everyone else overall)..
Kinda sad for those two Terran youngsters though.. :/
Hey!
I think it's fantastic that you have an opinion. I just think it's unfortunate that it's a closed minded and bias opinion.
I'm sure you can do better.
Good luck on the ladder!
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36961 Posts
On August 18 2013 16:06 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 01:16 VArsovskiSC wrote:
Except from Drunkenboi and Neeb, don't think that any of the other players even tried to make it.. Rlly bad, and rlly immature team overall (sorry for the less known players, but that's what DesRow makes it look like for everyone else overall)..
Kinda sad for those two Terran youngsters though.. :/ Hey! I think it's fantastic that you have an opinion. I just think it's unfortunate that it's a closed minded and bias opinion. I'm sure you can do better. Good luck on the ladder!
Marc don't even bother. Some people in life are just haters. You are better than them. Don't bother.
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It was nice working with you guys in FXO (even though I was switched from FXO.NA to Content)
but gl and hope you guys do well in your future activities/careers/etc!
and keep in touch x.x~
... oh sheesh, I forgot to update my twitter/tl/etc descriptions... o0;;
On August 18 2013 11:55 Chimeri wrote:
So I'm guessing this is also why FXO LoL disbanded (or rather, made a new team)?
completely different reason
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Quite unfortunate news.
Never thought of their team motto before.. "When money makes money".. No fair play or for the fun of the game, just business as usual!
Jokes aside, never fun when a team disbands.
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On August 18 2013 19:10 ShotgunMike wrote:Quite unfortunate news. Never thought of their team motto before.. "When money makes money".. No fair play or for the fun of the game, just business as usual! Jokes aside, never fun when a team disbands.
"When Money Makes Money" is FXO's slogan. Not FXOpen Esports.
FXO is a foreign currency exchange business. As in $ -> £ or €. Hence when money makes money.
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i feel bad for desrow thought he had a stable team now ..
dont know the other players though still unfortunate that FXO has to shuit down
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I always loved seeing the FXO NA guys play in team leagues and qualifiers it really suck they weren't able to get a solid support to keep them going... Best of luck to all the staff and players and thanks for shedding some light on things Seeker!
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On August 18 2013 19:31 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 19:10 ShotgunMike wrote:Quite unfortunate news. Never thought of their team motto before.. "When money makes money".. No fair play or for the fun of the game, just business as usual! Jokes aside, never fun when a team disbands. "When Money Makes Money" is FXO's slogan. Not FXOpen Esports. FXO is a foreign currency exchange business. As in $ -> £ or €. Hence when money makes money.
Thanks for the clarification!
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What happend with Jim Raising !?
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On August 19 2013 16:41 x_ASCH_x wrote:
What happend with Jim Raising !?
playing for Kaos Latin Gamers now
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I honestly for one am sad to see FXO.NA go. I had alot of respect for them. They also where always some of the best numbers for the URTL. I hope they all find amazing homes. Good Luck to the players and management.
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On August 20 2013 21:35 Handfromabov wrote:
I honestly for one am sad to see FXO.NA go. I had alot of respect for them. They also where always some of the best numbers for the URTL. I hope they all find amazing homes. Good Luck to the players and management.
lol a ninja league plug. nice one :D If you haven't already check out the URTL. Might even be some FXO replays laying around. Handfromabove can u find some with fXo and maybe post them in here? So people can see the talent level FXO NA had to maybe help people see what FXO.NA was about?
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