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SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
August 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#221
I've enjoyed literally all of the casting duos on that list, but Idra did very well and gelled especially well with Khaldor. Will be nice to hear Idra with others too; Idra + Apollo or Idra + Artosis would be siiiick.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
August 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#222
On August 04 2013 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think the best duo I've heard in recent times is Kaelaris/ToD. They were amazing together during WCS EU.

Yes I totally agree with that. Best duo so far, for me. For Idra/ Khaldor I really enjoyed both of them, great insights by Idra and Khaldor was able to communicate well with Idra, to show a bit of his personallity and of course his play by play is pretty good.

I do not really understand what some of the people's problem is with Semmler, I especially liked his interviews, relaxed but yet really interesting, especially with the Koreans. Maybe he can work a bit on his stage "presentation", it seemed a bit too casual for my liking. But other than that, good stuff
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KJSharp
Profile Joined May 2011
United States84 Posts
August 04 2013 11:33 GMT
#223
I did like Idra's strategic analysis. The only person I feel like I learn more from is Day9 when he is casting, so I definitely like Idra as a caster!
Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
August 04 2013 11:38 GMT
#224
IdrA + Khaldor was really good, but why is no one giving love to NASL duos? BitterDam and FroTorp are amazing casting duos I think. I want more NASL stuff!!
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
August 04 2013 11:42 GMT
#225
IdrA and Khaldor were good, but that's overhype cause it's a new thing. Tastosis are always the best. And I've seen Khaldor doing a much better work then this at Asus, too many mistakes and unnecessary screams.
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
August 04 2013 11:48 GMT
#226
I think Apollo, Artosis and Khaldor should cast every event there is. Khaldor is the best PBP caster and no one come close to Apollo and Artosis in game knowledge (not even when players are casting IMO).
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
August 04 2013 11:58 GMT
#227
It is definitely refreshing to see a former top-tier professional to commentate because he has very deep analysis and knows how to be professional. However, it would be nice, if he would lighten up a bit.
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synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
August 04 2013 12:00 GMT
#228
We have yet to see the Unholy Archon ToD+Idra.
I'm sure they can become the best cast duo
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45167 Posts
August 04 2013 12:01 GMT
#229
Apollo + Artosis, iNcontroL + IdrA, and a few other great combinations were missed as well.

But it's mostly subjective anyway; I'm just glad that one duo doesn't cast everything. Variety is the spice of life
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 12:05:53
August 04 2013 12:05 GMT
#230
On August 04 2013 20:16 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 20:12 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 20:07 Eshra wrote:
On August 04 2013 20:02 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:58 Eshra wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:53 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:50 Syn Harvest wrote:
I loved Idra's casting this weekend can't wait for him to become more prolific in the casting world. He really should cast WCS America. It would make it so much better because currently the casters are very lack luster, especially gretorp.

Idra/Khaldor combo is very awesome. Looking forward to seeing it more often.

On August 04 2013 19:40 Gr33n wrote:
now if only semmler wasnt making everything akward...


Ya what was up with that every interview he gave was so bizarre. The entire situation when Semmler was involved was so uncomfortable feeling. I don't know what it was that was making it feel that way but I didn't like any of the interviews.


u ever watch the 2GD show? he ruins that entire show they make fun of him constantly. for good reason but ye semmler ruins things


Did you just create a thread so you could praise and bash whoever you want? That's pretty silly...


eh its harsh critique but i "dislike him" the rest of the tourny was great


It's not " harsh critique ", it's just bashing.



k he did a really really bad job and shouldnt be hired again. no bush beating. dont be enablers. if someone is bad make it known

It's his right to have a different opinion. This has nothing to do with being an enabler.

On the other hand, it isn't your right to come on a community site and bash people. Just keep it to yourself. It's toxic.



This person is right, which is why I was skeptical about this thread at first. And pretty much, seeing how the OP responds confirms my suspicion. This thread is nothing more but a place where he can express his personal opinions without bring anything significant to the discussion.
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Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
August 04 2013 12:05 GMT
#231
Apollo and Artosis are the best IMO. Out of the regular casting combos I'd say Tastosis, but Tasteless's screaming is annoying.

Idra and Khaldor was OK, Idra is a good caster IMO and I'd like to see him with Apollo/Artosis/Incontrol, Khaldor is at best OK.
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
August 04 2013 12:06 GMT
#232
what i don't like on idra's casting is the lack of exitement.

tastosis is the way to go in terms of entertainment.
khaldor / wolf is very close, if not better.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
August 04 2013 12:11 GMT
#233
On August 04 2013 21:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Apollo + Artosis, iNcontroL + IdrA, and a few other great combinations were missed as well.

But it's mostly subjective anyway; I'm just glad that one duo doesn't cast everything. Variety is the spice of life

That last part 100% :D
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spalding
Profile Joined August 2010
95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 12:14:48
August 04 2013 12:13 GMT
#234
I really enjoyed their casting, my favourite "caster" would be Grubby though. I don't get all the hype for tastosis (Artosis is fine), I guess it's because they were one of the first starcraft casters. Tasteless is just really, really bad unless you're looking for a caster who will tell you dozens of times that base races favour Terran because their buildings can fly or that the map is about to be mined out.
one-one-one
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden551 Posts
August 04 2013 12:13 GMT
#235
On August 04 2013 19:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 19:21 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:18 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I loved these two, Khaldor really let Idra do the analytical casting and they were funny together and just worked well together! I think WCS NA should def. get Idra as a regular caster, it really improves the watching experience if the casters actually know what they are talking about.........



so we are in agreement. if you enjoyed idra you are prob high masters to pro level, if you like artosis and tasteless you 1 base and are in silver

is this fair to say? i believe so

what?
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 17:48 one-one-one wrote:
Are you kidding?

idrA has good game sense but is very biased.
This side of him needs to be balanced out by his co-caster.

Unfortunately Khaldor shares the same anti-terran bias, especially when casting TvZ, but also in TvP.
idrA was always very fast to point out that T has mules, but always forgot to mention that P can chronoboost probes.
idrA might get away with it, because he is what he is, but Khaldor doesn't.

They are not completely doomed as a duo because of this, but they have stuff to work...

Everyone has bias whether it's for a race, their favorite players or whatever else it may be.



Lol. Your completely missed my point.
The point is that _both_ casters share the same anti-terran and pro-zerg bias. This is why Khaldor is not a good co-caster to idrA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1BFY4R7IIP4#t=1710s
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 04 2013 12:15 GMT
#236
Uhm, the options in this poll really suck. Where's Bitterdam?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 04 2013 12:25 GMT
#237
On August 04 2013 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 19:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:21 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:18 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I loved these two, Khaldor really let Idra do the analytical casting and they were funny together and just worked well together! I think WCS NA should def. get Idra as a regular caster, it really improves the watching experience if the casters actually know what they are talking about.........



so we are in agreement. if you enjoyed idra you are prob high masters to pro level, if you like artosis and tasteless you 1 base and are in silver

is this fair to say? i believe so

what?
On August 04 2013 17:48 one-one-one wrote:
Are you kidding?

idrA has good game sense but is very biased.
This side of him needs to be balanced out by his co-caster.

Unfortunately Khaldor shares the same anti-terran bias, especially when casting TvZ, but also in TvP.
idrA was always very fast to point out that T has mules, but always forgot to mention that P can chronoboost probes.
idrA might get away with it, because he is what he is, but Khaldor doesn't.

They are not completely doomed as a duo because of this, but they have stuff to work...

Everyone has bias whether it's for a race, their favorite players or whatever else it may be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDGf1G6mxQ


Lol. Your completely missed my point.
The point is that _both_ casters share the same anti-terran and pro-zerg bias. This is why Khaldor is not a good co-caster to idrA.

Sign, this again. You know Artosis loves mech? Does that mean we can't pair him with another mech loving casters? At the end of the day, as long as they are funny and amusing, their bias is a minor problem.
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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
August 04 2013 12:27 GMT
#238
Fine, but not that great. I watched best performances by Khaldor before.
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
August 04 2013 12:27 GMT
#239
i agree completely, i love their synergy as a casting duo!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3374 Posts
August 04 2013 12:30 GMT
#240
On August 04 2013 21:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 21:13 one-one-one wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:23 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:21 Gr33n wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:18 Liquid`Ret wrote:
I loved these two, Khaldor really let Idra do the analytical casting and they were funny together and just worked well together! I think WCS NA should def. get Idra as a regular caster, it really improves the watching experience if the casters actually know what they are talking about.........



so we are in agreement. if you enjoyed idra you are prob high masters to pro level, if you like artosis and tasteless you 1 base and are in silver

is this fair to say? i believe so

what?
On August 04 2013 17:48 one-one-one wrote:
Are you kidding?

idrA has good game sense but is very biased.
This side of him needs to be balanced out by his co-caster.

Unfortunately Khaldor shares the same anti-terran bias, especially when casting TvZ, but also in TvP.
idrA was always very fast to point out that T has mules, but always forgot to mention that P can chronoboost probes.
idrA might get away with it, because he is what he is, but Khaldor doesn't.

They are not completely doomed as a duo because of this, but they have stuff to work...

Everyone has bias whether it's for a race, their favorite players or whatever else it may be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDGf1G6mxQ


Lol. Your completely missed my point.
The point is that _both_ casters share the same anti-terran and pro-zerg bias. This is why Khaldor is not a good co-caster to idrA.

Sign, this again. You know Artosis loves mech? Does that mean we can't pair him with another mech loving casters? At the end of the day, as long as they are funny and amusing, their bias is a minor problem.

If we would have seen mech in 1/3 of the games it very well could be.
There was enough of condescension in Artosis telling everyone how he knows mech better than the pros.
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