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A new Color Blind Mode has been added and can be enabled in the Gameplay options menu. When enabled, the following changes take effect: - Alternate colors are used to show the build grid when “Display Build Grid” is enabled.
- Alternate colors are used to designate player colors when playing in teams.
- Placement grid textures indicating unbuildable locations have been updated to display an “X” rather than changing from green to red.
- Minimap terrain is darkened to provide more visual contrast between units and terrain.
Well, I think, streamers and players should start use this mode which was introduced in latest patch 2.0.10. What the differences are? On the screenshot you can clearly see new colors in team games - blue/cyan/orange instead old green/yellow/red, also new building grid and darker minimap. Also this mode was the Blizzard answer to Stronger Team Color mod. As you may notice, Blue versus Orange feels more contrast than Green versus Red, in some cases. So yes, this may be really a good answer from Blizzard to STC mod. Lets use it!
I'm not a color-blind player, but I think, blue versus orange feels more contrast and readable than green vs red on some maps, including night ones.
In short word, instead green and red colors you now may have blue and orange ones! Plus new and better building grid. How to turn it on * click to enlarge *
- instead green/yellow/red scheme you will have blue/cyan/orange color scheme. Player colors scheme still can be toggled to player's color (i.e. Red vs Blue in 1v1 Ladder). Aesthetically Blue Terrans and Blue Protosses looking a bit better, than green ones. Also blue Zergs are nice too and feel more fresh than green Swarm.
- circle around selected units/buildings now matches player's color. It means that circles now are same color as player's color.
- A bit darker minimap, means that it's easier to spot drops, and other targets. Well, black minimap is still the best variant for spotting small red/orange squares on big maps.
- Brighter minerals/neutral objects on the minimap. Instead light-blue they are white now.
- X'es in unbuildable blocks. But the building will be always red. Also buildable area now is bright-white, when unbuildable area is covered by black blocks
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/C7cS0ddl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EDNefqKl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1wJ14fll.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m23ehCAl.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mQeWNprl.jpg) ~ MINIMAP: DEFAULT COLORS ~
In the 1v1 ladder you may have only 3 colors - blue (enemy red), red (enemy blue), green (enemy red). In all cases your army is green on the minimap.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QAFX9oA.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/59aZHty.png) ~ MINIMAP: ALTERNATE COLORS ~
~ AESTHETICS POINT ~
I think, always blue Protoss and always blue Terran looks a lot more cool, than always green. Blue Terrans are Raynor's Raiders from campaign, and Protoss blue color was always their default color. Just compare such a small but nice difference. Zergs looks better in green mode just because it's their second color after purple, even in the campaign 
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I doubt caster streamers will do this, because the placement overlay doesn't matter, team colours don't matter. The only thing it would impact is the minimap, which they hardly look at anyway.
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As a colorblind person who's been struggling with blizzard's red/green colorscheme for a long time now. I can say they did extremely well with their colorblind mode. I was very scared at first that they'd mess this up but it seems they nailed it and used the perfect colorscheme. I can now easily work out which units are mine and which are my opponent's in mirrors. Perhaps my favorite thing about the colorblind mode tough, is the minimap. Its super easy to spot enemy dots moving around on it now where as before it was very easy to miss unless I was paying very close attention to it. all in all extremely happy with this addition.
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I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green?
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On August 01 2013 02:18 Dingodile wrote: I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green? As I said in 1st post, Color Blind mode changes green/yellow/red scheme into blue/cyan/orange. Also it makes build grid brigther and darker minimap. Thats all it changes
P.S. I'm not color blind too, just love blue color more than green.
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Northern Ireland24265 Posts
About fucking time. Still miss stronger team colours, looking forward to trying this out
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On August 01 2013 02:18 Dingodile wrote: I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green? I think the general idea is that only red/green colorblind people had problems with the red/green colour scheme. Between the two options, everyone should be catered to...aside from people with total monochromatic vision.
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On August 01 2013 02:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:18 Dingodile wrote: I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green? I think the general idea is that only red/green colorblind people had problems with the red/green colour scheme. Between the two options, everyone should be catered to...aside from people with total monochromatic vision. Another general idea is that blue/orange feels more contrast than green/red for non-color blind players. Isn't it?
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I remember pitching this in one of the WoL response emails. Their response was: "Good idea, we'll get to it when we can." HotS was announced and still no sign of it, so just gave up hope. During the HotS beta I was pretty vehement in emails and on the private forum they set up about getting this done, glad to see it finally came to fruition.
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Incidentally, I'd like to know exactly what form my colourblindness has. I was diagnosed as a pretty young kid but would like to see a proper breakdown, without having to pay my optician for a full test
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On August 01 2013 02:41 Agh wrote: I remember pitching this in one of the WoL response emails. Their response was: "Good idea, we'll get to it when we can." HotS was announced and still no sign of it, so just gave up hope. During the HotS beta I was pretty vehement in emails and on the private forum they set up about getting this done, glad to see it finally came to fruition.
Blizzard do things like that and don't get called on it enough because it's a niche issue. I mean they removed compatibility with the game working on pre-Mac OSX 10.6 with their big WoL update, but copped little flak for that.
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On August 01 2013 02:41 Agh wrote: I remember pitching this in one of the WoL response emails. Their response was: "Good idea, we'll get to it when we can." HotS was announced and still no sign of it, so just gave up hope. During the HotS beta I was pretty vehement in emails and on the private forum they set up about getting this done, glad to see it finally came to fruition.
Well, it seems that it's a bit hard for Blizzards to add such a small features like this one or replay scrolling
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Northern Ireland24265 Posts
It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right?
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On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right? Well, on other side, people can abuse game modding. Remember things like giant transparent silhouette instead small one for observer? So they decided to fix everything under "Resource checking alltime" option which was added with Streaming system
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I'm colorblind and the new minimap is going to be SOOOOOOOOOO much better.
On August 01 2013 02:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:18 Dingodile wrote: I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green? I think the general idea is that only red/green colorblind people had problems with the red/green colour scheme. Between the two options, everyone should be catered to...aside from people with total monochromatic vision. red/green is the most prevalent type of colorblindness, almost 1 in 10 people. stat, scroll down
I'm not sure how other types of colorblindness will be helped but I imagine there will be very few people without a good option now. But it'd be nice if blizzard just let you set the colors you want for ally/enemy.
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On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right? Whether the color mod is an improvemt or not, is up to debate. We had polls here that were pretty much split.
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On August 01 2013 02:44 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:41 Agh wrote: I remember pitching this in one of the WoL response emails. Their response was: "Good idea, we'll get to it when we can." HotS was announced and still no sign of it, so just gave up hope. During the HotS beta I was pretty vehement in emails and on the private forum they set up about getting this done, glad to see it finally came to fruition.
Blizzard do things like that and don't get called on it enough because it's a niche issue. I mean they removed compatibility with the game working on pre-Mac OSX 10.6 with their big WoL update, but copped little flak for that. I updated OS's just for that
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This is pretty awesome for me, I can actually differentiate units on the minimap now.
That said, it blows my mind that,
1) This took so long.
2) They give us a 'color blind' mode rather than just giving us drop down lists to pick whatever colors we like for everything.
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On August 01 2013 02:28 Wombat_NI wrote: About fucking time. Still miss stronger team colours, looking forward to trying this out
I really hope they're actually taking note of people who are continually posting about this. It's probably one of their biggest mistakes thus far in SC2. They literally destroyed server side unit modifications because they wanted to change things themselves... then never followed up with it. (People with STC on only affected their own units and the mod had no impact on the game whatsoever)
I would use this mode but I can't stand the blue/cyan D: Sorry~
edit I somehow missed this:
On August 01 2013 05:50 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right? Well, on other side, people can abuse game modding. Remember things like giant transparent silhouette instead small one for observer? So they decided to fix everything under "Resource checking alltime" option which was added with Streaming system
Okay, do you really think this stuff was incredibly prevalent or do you let your emotions rule the past? There was one thread on TL with all mods for visuals and none of those affected game play negatively/tampered competitive gameplay - purely aesthetics. Now sure, people COULD change things like cloak units borders and such but that was nothing less than "cheating", however the amount of people who went through this process were very minimal. But again, we're not saying that mpq editing should be allowed...
The people who are arguing for STC are attempting to convey the fact that it was a better viewer experience for many, and on top of that, a better player experience. It only affected those who opted to use it. So, when the options were already there, and Blizzard claims on more than one occasion that they support it, why would they destroy the functionality and then leave us hanging for nearly 2 years now? It's absurd for you to equate the two above statements when what we're asking for is them to make good on what they originally said. You should keep in mind, as the poster above me has, that simply being able to choose how colors show up helps everyone, and in a fair way. There is literally no reason against it. The functionality is already in the game. The only thing needed is a simple interface with color schemes or a color wheel and selections of what would go where or how "strong" it would appear. If GameHeart can do it I'm sure Blizzard wouldn't have that hard of a time...
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that artwork is so funny. love it.
as for the color blind thing, i say why not. it doesnt appear to hurt the non-color blind people, and it helps out others. i would like to see it demonstrated first to judge for sure though.
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On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right?
unless they release a plugin api or something, i' against third party mods, because they are easily abusable and can give you an unfair advantage.
all players should have the same,unmodified game, and also modifyng mpq game files is against blizzard tos
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On August 01 2013 05:57 MaxQT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right? unless they release a plugin api or something, i' against third party mods, because they are easily abusable and can give you an unfair advantage. all players should have the same,unmodified game, and also modifyng mpq game files is against blizzard tos
But the unmodified is incredible biased vs colorblind people like myself, and sometimes iit even look ugly. Zerg espcially look disgusting with the red colour.
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Took them long enough, red/green kind of solved it for me back when I was playing though. I only ever had real problems with brown/green opponents on jungle tilset maps and stuff like that, couldn't see the dots on the minimap :<
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Is there any way to get a kind of 'hybrid-colour' option?
What if I'm not colour blind, but I want the new-darkened minimap, building grid UI. But still have yellow or purple units?
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2) They give us a 'color blind' mode rather than just giving us drop down lists to pick whatever colors we like for everything. Well, as Dustin Browder said, if this doesn't affects multiplayer experience, why they should add it? For me, it's a very weak reason to not add color selection. Really.
Okay, do you really think this stuff was incredibly prevalent or do you let your emotions rule the past? There was one thread on TL with all mods for visuals and none of those affected game play negatively/tampered competitive gameplay - purely aesthetics. Now sure, people COULD change things like cloak units borders and such but that was nothing less than "cheating", however the amount of people who went through this process were very minimal. But again, we're not saying that mpq editing should be allowed...
I'm fully on your side, but if there is a POSSIBILITY to cheat through modding cloaked models by increasing their size... Blizzard can not just allow that, especially if SC2 is used in some popular tournaments.
The only thing needed is a simple interface with color schemes or a color wheel and selections of what would go where or how "strong" it would appear. If GameHeart can do it I'm sure Blizzard wouldn't have that hard of a time... I think Blizzards are just lazy on these things and they just don't care about such small aesthetic things. But who cares? 90% of players will still hail them for this great patch, so they can continue what they want without doing usefull things like color selection.
that artwork is so funny. love it. Huh, thanks
Is there any way to get a kind of 'hybrid-colour' option?
What if I'm not colour blind, but I want the new-darkened minimap, building grid UI. But still have yellow or purple units? No way. I wanted blue-cyan-red color scheme, like in Dawn of War 2, but blizzard MAYBE can add color custmization only in 3-4 years. It's really hard for them to do
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I'm glad this option is there though it seems strange it took so long to implement. More options for this kind of thing always seems good.
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I tried this out and I find it quite nice. The red hull shape for building placement preview is a bit distracting, but overall I am pleased with this option.
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Are you saying they got rid of green/red mode completely or that this is a new 3rd option?
Blue and orange is not more readable for non-color blind players... And this would affect almost every pro player in only a bad way. There's a reason why most people choose green/red mode.
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Are you saying they got rid of green/red mode completely or that this is a new 3rd option? Yes, it replaces green-red scheme with blue-orange
Blue and orange is not more readable for non-color blind players... And this would affect almost every pro player in only a bad way. There's a reason why most people choose green/red mode. I think it's more contrast in some cases than green-red. Blue is darker, and orange is brighter.
Well, we need blue versus red color mode
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I really like it that they finally implemented this. Blizz has in general implemented a lot of stuff everybody wanted since WoL lately, smth I rly like.
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I'm probably going to use this for the change in scenery, i'm not colorblind though. The standard Green/Blue/Red colors are boring. I wish they would let you choose which colors you wanted to play as, if your opponent picked the same color it uses your second choice. It's a little thing, I know, but it makes a big difference (plus I think the Brood War colors were fantastic).
Where is the option? I can't find it under Gameplay...
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Not colorblind but using the colorblind mode since it's way better than default.
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On August 01 2013 07:00 Limelights wrote: I'm probably going to use this for the change in scenery, i'm not colorblind though. The standard Green/Blue/Red colors are boring. I wish they would let you choose which colors you wanted to play as, if your opponent picked the same color it uses your second choice. It's a little thing, I know, but it makes a big difference (plus I think the Brood War colors were fantastic).
Where is the option? I can't find it under Gameplay...
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The patch is active now? That checkbox isn't there for me.
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On August 01 2013 05:51 ChristianS wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:44 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 01 2013 02:41 Agh wrote: I remember pitching this in one of the WoL response emails. Their response was: "Good idea, we'll get to it when we can." HotS was announced and still no sign of it, so just gave up hope. During the HotS beta I was pretty vehement in emails and on the private forum they set up about getting this done, glad to see it finally came to fruition.
Blizzard do things like that and don't get called on it enough because it's a niche issue. I mean they removed compatibility with the game working on pre-Mac OSX 10.6 with their big WoL update, but copped little flak for that. I updated OS's just for that I can't because there's a lot of software keys and stuff that I have misplaced since moving house. My fault of course, still annoying though.
On my other point, by all means disable 3rd party mods if you must, not really my preference but it's the company's perogative. At least get your shit together in keeping the features that people liked among them.
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On August 01 2013 05:50 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 05:48 Wombat_NI wrote: It's most frustrating because the functionality was already there, but hey fuck third-party mods that improve the game right? Well, on other side, people can abuse game modding. Remember things like giant transparent silhouette instead small one for observer? So they decided to fix everything under "Resource checking alltime" option which was added with Streaming system
Im not sure what that has to do with game modding, for some months after release if you put all game settings to low except shaders which you put to ultra, you could legitimately see cloaked units without detection(still couldn't attack them but it was night and day difference seeing where they were coming from or were running to) -.- this was all on "stock" crap with no mods.
Sometimes you just gotta leave it to the community that has more time to fix things like that. Hell BW was only as good as it was because of all the 3rd party launchers and private BW servers that gave us a hell of a lot more stats then b.net ever did. Not to mention where some games get fixed through mods then through official patches. Even check out skyrim and what they've been able to do with that.
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Yeeeeey this is awesome :3
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Please, lets talk about different color scheme and not about mods
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On August 01 2013 08:55 Existor wrote:Please, lets talk about different color scheme and not about mods Oh by all means. Just don't backslap Blizzard for adding functionality that the community had already started/had done and was removed, by Blizzard
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On August 01 2013 05:50 EatThePath wrote:I'm colorblind and the new minimap is going to be SOOOOOOOOOO much better. Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 02:31 WolfintheSheep wrote:On August 01 2013 02:18 Dingodile wrote: I am NOT colorblind, so my question: do this solve the problem to people with blue/green and other colors or only red/green? I think the general idea is that only red/green colorblind people had problems with the red/green colour scheme. Between the two options, everyone should be catered to...aside from people with total monochromatic vision. red/green is the most prevalent type of colorblindness, almost 1 in 10 people. stat, scroll downI'm not sure how other types of colorblindness will be helped but I imagine there will be very few people without a good option now. But it'd be nice if blizzard just let you set the colors you want for ally/enemy. Er...yeah, not sure what you're trying to say here...
Red/Green colour blind people were the ones having issues with Red/Green colour schemes, so this option fixes it for them.
Every other variation of colourblindness is catered to by either option except for monochromatic vision
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This was the first thing I tried it out. I'm not colourblind but I wanted a change instead of this boring darkred/blue or red/green. Pros : - Minimap can be better on some maps for some players since the option let you choose to have an improved contrast between the fog of war and the inexplored terrain. Can be useful. Also white minerals on minimaps can be a big plus. - Orange unit colour on ladder's games ?!? Hell yeah !
Cons : - The fact that you can no longer see the green circles around all of those units / buildings you've selected got me challenged more than once. Do not like at all. But hey, colour blind ppl might actually like this way better ! Afterall that's what the option is supposed to do, duh. - Orange units... Yeah but only for our ennemy. Too bad we can't choose ourselves our colour. We're still stuck with that darker(? Dunno, felt like it's darker while in colourblind's mode) blue or red or green.
Good thing that blizz finally got this thing working since there are actually more colourblind's ppl than we might think.
I'll still have to stick with my usual colours though. :p
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Very excited for this as the red/green has been a challenge at times. That new building grid looks sooo much better too.
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On August 01 2013 12:28 RaiZ wrote: This was the first thing I tried it out. I'm not colourblind but I wanted a change instead of this boring darkred/blue or red/green. Pros : - Minimap can be better on some maps for some players since the option let you choose to have an improved contrast between the fog of war and the inexplored terrain. Can be useful. Also white minerals on minimaps can be a big plus. - Orange unit colour on ladder's games ?!? Hell yeah !
Cons : - The fact that you can no longer see the green circles around all of those units / buildings you've selected got me challenged more than once. Do not like at all. But hey, colour blind ppl might actually like this way better ! Afterall that's what the option is supposed to do, duh. - Orange units... Yeah but only for our ennemy. Too bad we can't choose ourselves our colour. We're still stuck with that darker(? Dunno, felt like it's darker while in colourblind's mode) blue or red or green.
Good thing that blizz finally got this thing working since there are actually more colourblind's ppl than we might think.
I'll still have to stick with my usual colours though. :p
wait....are you saying the unit/building selection highlight circles are gone? Im not understanding what you mean
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I am colorblind and am excited to see this.
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On August 01 2013 14:28 SuperYo1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2013 12:28 RaiZ wrote: This was the first thing I tried it out. I'm not colourblind but I wanted a change instead of this boring darkred/blue or red/green. Pros : - Minimap can be better on some maps for some players since the option let you choose to have an improved contrast between the fog of war and the inexplored terrain. Can be useful. Also white minerals on minimaps can be a big plus. - Orange unit colour on ladder's games ?!? Hell yeah !
Cons : - The fact that you can no longer see the green circles around all of those units / buildings you've selected got me challenged more than once. Do not like at all. But hey, colour blind ppl might actually like this way better ! Afterall that's what the option is supposed to do, duh. - Orange units... Yeah but only for our ennemy. Too bad we can't choose ourselves our colour. We're still stuck with that darker(? Dunno, felt like it's darker while in colourblind's mode) blue or red or green.
Good thing that blizz finally got this thing working since there are actually more colourblind's ppl than we might think.
I'll still have to stick with my usual colours though. :p wait....are you saying the unit/building selection highlight circles are gone? Im not understanding what you mean Yeah, I'm not sure either...the screenshot clearly shows selection circles.
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Pros : - Minimap can be better on some maps for some players since the option let you choose to have an improved contrast between the fog of war and the inexplored terrain. Can be useful. Also white minerals on minimaps can be a big plus. I disagree a bit. I mean, you already can turn off minimap terrain into black minimap without terrain. It's still the best contrast between player's objects and terrain.
- Orange units... Yeah but only for our ennemy. Too bad we can't choose ourselves our colour. We're still stuck with that darker(? Dunno, felt like it's darker while in colourblind's mode) blue or red or green. I think, it's maybe better. If we're darker and enemy is brighter, that means that we waste less attention to our objects and see better enemy objects. Especially in ZvZ where dark-blue is a lot darker than bright orange which means it's easier to see difference between orange/blue lings
wait....are you saying the unit/building selection highlight circles are gone? Im not understanding what you mean
Read 1st post better please. Circle around selected units/structures now matches player's color instead rather green
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Added more screenshots with new contrast grid. What do you think, isn't it more usefull than standard one?
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I recall reading that color blind players have difficulties spotting the small dot indicating where a nuke is going to land. I didn't see a reference to this issue in the OP. Does this color blind mode address it (perhaps indirectly)? Or is that still going to be an issue for color blind players?
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Not colorblind but having a hard time placing a nexus in the proper spot next to a mineral line with the blue-white grid instantly.
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I completely don't understand this topic. Can someone tell me, what is the big difference betweem blue/orange and the really default blue/red on ladder? Why would people voluntarily switch to green/red if they were colorblind, considering that if you do not touch the game in any way, you see the blue/red version.
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On August 01 2013 02:43 Wombat_NI wrote: Incidentally, I'd like to know exactly what form my colourblindness has. I was diagnosed as a pretty young kid but would like to see a proper breakdown, without having to pay my optician for a full test
Dude, just Google around for the test images. They're on the internet.
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I completely don't understand this topic. Can someone tell me, what is the big difference betweem blue/orange and the really default blue/red on ladder? With blue-red you also have green-red, where you are always green and enemy is always red (in team games allies are also yellow).
Many of players, from what I saw on forums, wanted to change their color a bit more, because theya re tired with green as default color. Right now it's possible to change green-yellow-red scheme to blue-cyan-orange.
opisska This thread was created for players like you that don't know about such small features, like alternate green-red colors in ladder (button near minimap).
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this is going to be OP!!!!!! hahaha I love the new changes!
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On August 01 2013 02:43 Wombat_NI wrote: Incidentally, I'd like to know exactly what form my colourblindness has. I was diagnosed as a pretty young kid but would like to see a proper breakdown, without having to pay my optician for a full test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness looks like a good place to start.
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About goddam time.
I stopped laddering because of this (not that I am any good, but still).
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I can finally see what the game looks like! Thank you! Edit: wow I didn't know there was a grid that can show you were to place buildings! + Show Spoiler +just kidding don't over react
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Not colour blind but I still prefer the new mode. Now if only they'd allow you to place the mini map on the right side for left handed users like myself that would be great
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On August 02 2013 06:03 Existor wrote:Show nested quote +I completely don't understand this topic. Can someone tell me, what is the big difference betweem blue/orange and the really default blue/red on ladder? With blue-red you also have green-red, where you are always green and enemy is always red (in team games allies are also yellow). Many of players, from what I saw on forums, wanted to change their color a bit more, because theya re tired with green as default color. Right now it's possible to change green-yellow-red scheme to blue-cyan-orange. opisska This thread was created for players like you that don't know about such small features, like alternate green-red colors in ladder (button near minimap).
Do you understand that you are not making any sense? In my post, I asked, why would people use that feature, so why are you telling me that I don't know that the feature exists?
So again:
suppose I am green/red colorbllind. Why would I switch the colors from red/blue into "team colors", which happen to be green and red and then wait for three years for Blizzard to come up with a "colorblind" scheme, when I could the whole time, with a single clilck of a button, switch back into red/blue, which happens to be very similiar to the "new" orangle/blue scheme?
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I'll never forget the days when Black was a valid color in SC1. Hehe, those were hard times on the minimap. Kudos to Blizz on this change!
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Poll: Are U Color blind?no (48) 74% yes (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Are U Color blind? (Vote): no (Vote): yes
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suppose I am green/red colorbllind. Why would I switch the colors from red/blue into "team colors", which happen to be green and red and then wait for three years for Blizzard to come up with a "colorblind" scheme, when I could the whole time, with a single clilck of a button, switch back into red/blue, which happens to be very similiar to the "new" orangle/blue scheme? Okay, now I inderstand you. But this question is without answer and can be adressed to Blizzard themselfs. It's their problem that they are so lazy to do such small things earlier. What we can do? Only wait and hail them.
What about colors. Many players in team games play with green-yellow-red scheme, and they are tired with these colors. They also probably don't like default blue-red color scheme, so this color-blind mode gives alternate colors, just for selection. So you can choose a bit more what you want and not be limited to only 2 color schemes - player's colors and green-red colors.
This thread is mostly not about agitating this mode for Color Blind players. This thread is about alternate colors and better building grid which can be nicely used by non-color blind players.
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On August 02 2013 06:43 opisska wrote:
Do you understand that you are not making any sense? In my post, I asked, why would people use that feature, so why are you telling me that I don't know that the feature exists?
So again:
suppose I am green/red colorbllind. Why would I switch the colors from red/blue into "team colors", which happen to be green and red and then wait for three years for Blizzard to come up with a "colorblind" scheme, when I could the whole time, with a single clilck of a button, switch back into red/blue, which happens to be very similiar to the "new" orangle/blue scheme?
That didn't help with the building grid colors, and in team games having all allies one color and enemies one other (instead of 4 different colors) is useful (for me at least). Also I hope streamers take advantage of this, mirror matches with red/green colors are so hard to follow...
eta: honestly the building grid is the biggest deal for me over actual player colors, but different people probably have different experiences with that.
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Bisutopia19201 Posts
On August 02 2013 06:53 TimKim0713 wrote:Poll: Are U Color blind?no (48) 74% yes (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Are U Color blind? (Vote): no (Vote): yes
Misclicked no on my phone. results are ruined!
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On August 02 2013 09:45 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 06:53 TimKim0713 wrote:Poll: Are U Color blind?no (48) 74% yes (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Are U Color blind? (Vote): no (Vote): yes
Misclicked no on my phone.  results are ruined!
Don't worry Dagger, I got your back. <3
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I remember that there was a caster who was colour-blind and had to use those during the cast. I wonder if anyone knows who I'm talking about and then we can see his opinion on the matter since I forgot his name.
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Bisutopia19201 Posts
On August 02 2013 09:51 FluffyBinLaden wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 09:45 BisuDagger wrote:On August 02 2013 06:53 TimKim0713 wrote:Poll: Are U Color blind?no (48) 74% yes (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Are U Color blind? (Vote): no (Vote): yes
Misclicked no on my phone.  results are ruined! Don't worry Dagger, I got your back. <3 Whew! Crisis averted, thank you!
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Tried this and looks cool to the eyes. But still going for green/red. Also does the color blind people are the ones who are able to see the orange? because its Blue and white for me :|
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On August 02 2013 09:45 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 06:53 TimKim0713 wrote:Poll: Are U Color blind?no (48) 74% yes (17) 26% 65 total votes Your vote: Are U Color blind? (Vote): no (Vote): yes
Misclicked no on my phone.  results are ruined!
oh no!
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On August 02 2013 10:20 shin_toss wrote: Tried this and looks cool to the eyes. But still going for green/red. Also does the color blind people are the ones who are able to see the orange? because its Blue and white for me :| Er...
I'd highly recommend looking at some internet colour blindness tests.
Actually, first try adjusting your camera gamma/constrast settings.
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On August 02 2013 06:59 teuthida wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 06:43 opisska wrote:
Do you understand that you are not making any sense? In my post, I asked, why would people use that feature, so why are you telling me that I don't know that the feature exists?
So again:
suppose I am green/red colorbllind. Why would I switch the colors from red/blue into "team colors", which happen to be green and red and then wait for three years for Blizzard to come up with a "colorblind" scheme, when I could the whole time, with a single clilck of a button, switch back into red/blue, which happens to be very similiar to the "new" orangle/blue scheme? That didn't help with the building grid colors, and in team games having all allies one color and enemies one other (instead of 4 different colors) is useful (for me at least). Also I hope streamers take advantage of this, mirror matches with red/green colors are so hard to follow... eta: honestly the building grid is the biggest deal for me over actual player colors, but different people probably have different experiences with that.
I tried once playing team games with the team colour settings ... whooo, that was bad! I find it very useful to be able to discriminate units from different enemies for several reasons, mainly because I could much better "feel" the distribution of their forces, knowing where are their bases and where do the units come from and where they go. But thinking about team games, I really see how this could be a big deal, because some of the 8 colours for 4v4s are difficult to quickly tell even for me.
And yes, the "x"s in the building grid are very nice, I like them even though I can see the colour. They alert me faster when building something stupidly, which is a good thing.
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On August 02 2013 06:43 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2013 06:03 Existor wrote:I completely don't understand this topic. Can someone tell me, what is the big difference betweem blue/orange and the really default blue/red on ladder? With blue-red you also have green-red, where you are always green and enemy is always red (in team games allies are also yellow). Many of players, from what I saw on forums, wanted to change their color a bit more, because theya re tired with green as default color. Right now it's possible to change green-yellow-red scheme to blue-cyan-orange. opisska This thread was created for players like you that don't know about such small features, like alternate green-red colors in ladder (button near minimap). Do you understand that you are not making any sense? In my post, I asked, why would people use that feature, so why are you telling me that I don't know that the feature exists? So again: suppose I am green/red colorbllind. Why would I switch the colors from red/blue into "team colors", which happen to be green and red and then wait for three years for Blizzard to come up with a "colorblind" scheme, when I could the whole time, with a single clilck of a button, switch back into red/blue, which happens to be very similiar to the "new" orangle/blue scheme? Also you switch between red and blue without team color settings. This way you are always the same color. Which is much better for some people, especially with contrast on minimap issues.
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
Updated first post with some minimap previews and aesthetic point about Protoss and Terran colors.
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Am i dump, or is this colour mode even better for competetive play, than the standard one, if you are not afflicted?
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Yeah I think I'm going to try the color-blind mode too :D
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I just wish I could chose the color of me and my opponent freely...
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Russian Federation4295 Posts
On January 08 2014 09:39 Striker.superfreunde wrote: Am i dump, or is this colour mode even better for competetive play, than the standard one, if you are not afflicted? Probably, because blue and orange are more difference colors than blue/red, especially on some dark maps like Alterzim Stronghold
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On January 08 2014 10:02 JustPassingBy wrote: I just wish I could chose the color of me and my opponent freely... Agreed, I wanna be Purple!
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i actually use this just to change up the colours a little bit lol
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