So about the WC3 players - Page 5

On June 19 2013 08:09 Awesomeness wrote:
oh yeah Deadman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETDuqRxR8o

never forget

For those who are interested in the situation between me and ownitsch, I am writing the story. When we were driving to Hamburg from Cologne (ownitsch was the driver), I had to smoke a cigarette because it’s a bit annoying to be stuck on the road when no cars are moving and everyone is waiting. I even opened a window so I won’t disturb anyone but ownitsch told me to stop smoking.I told him, “no, I need to smoke that cigarette!” He then stopped the car like crazy, stepped out of the driver’s seat, walked to the other side of the car, opened my door, and took my cigarette out of my hand (in bad manner). I walked off from the car and asked him why he was doing this, and kicked him in the body (because I can’t accept those bad manners from him, which he commited by removing my cigarette from my hand).
After we had arrived at the hotel, gues what happened? Ownitsch told me that I will be flying home tomorrow and told me to stay here. I was like “wtf” ownitsch, why are you doing this? At the hotel I was taking another cigarette to smoke because I couldn’t believe what he told me, then after I smoked I came to him and asked him if I will be flying home tomorrow. Guess what happened? He just gave the room card. I was like “wtf” again and went to my room but I couldn’t sleep because tomorrow was going to be the wc3l finals but ownitsch didn’t tell me anything (what time it was going to be etc). So I was knocking on the other players’ doors but nobody opened them and then after some time ownitsch appeared. I was asking him “what happened, where have you been?” Guess what? He told me to go eat and didn’t even explain anything to me. After that I was really thinking about flying home and told him that, but he was acting bad manned again and I was like “wtf!” He just closed the door to my face.
I told myself “enough of this shit” and left to the reception. So they called ownitsch’s room and asked him to come downstairs. There I could ask him again if I will be playing or flying back the next day, but he was acting bad mannered again so I kicked him in the face. After that, inso kicked me in the face and said something about my mother so I in return kicked him (with my leg). After that we left to the rooms to go to sleep. The day after ownitsch told me that I will be flying back and called the police, the police took me away from the hotel and I had to be outside. And then I had to go to the PC club to look for the address of the wc3l finals. By the time I arrived there I was off the team. Then I had to give an interview and had to pay for a flight from Hamburg to to Kalinigrad to Moscow for 400 euro.

On June 19 2013 07:59 Piledriver wrote:



Hum: Swain was overrated, and he did terrible when he came back from his retirement. I would probably put in Insomnia and HeMaN ahead of Swain.

Orc: If you're going to put in XiaOt, as one of the best orcs, then you definitely have to put in FoCuS, FarSeer and WhO.

UD: Who was GoRush. I havent really heard his name :S. Are you talking about St_GoStop? Also I think WiNNeR was probably the best European UD, when he didnt suffer from attitude problems.

Elf: Yeah, outside of Korea, the only successful elves were Creolophus, Deadman and ShortRound. EvenStar was another Korean elf who was really strong during the early stages of WC3, and probably has the same amount of accomplishments as Soccer/SoJu.

On June 19 2013 04:39 monk wrote:
A bit of history: The obvious reason WC3 isn't as popular in Korea is that BW was around when esports came to Korea. Similarly, WC3 is way more popular in China than BW because WC3 was the game when esports was coming to China.

However, what most people don't know is that Korea tried out WC3. Unfortunately, there was a big scandal that tainted WC3 forever in Korea, second only to Savior's match-fixing scandal. Back in the day, Moon and other Night Elves were winning every Korean WC3. Because this was the case, one guy at MBC thought that it would be more interesting if players of other races won a tournament. So he basically rigged all the maps so that Orc would get slight buffs and Night Elf would get slight nerfs. These changes were virtually undetectable:

Funnily enough, Moon met an Orc in the finals and still won the tournament. Soon after though, these changes were discovered by Dayfly and the scandal broke, tainting WC3 forever in the minds of Koreans. Soon after, the leagues gradually began dying out until no major leagues ran at all after WEG3.

Link to an article about the scandal

On June 19 2013 08:39 SnowfaLL wrote:
everyone forgets about SeleCT too, but he was a beast in WC3.. and one of the best foreigner terrans today (if you consider him foreigner.. I have no idea what to consider him, but since hes lived outside of Korea for a long time now)

On June 19 2013 07:33 KalWarkov wrote:


hasuobs played wc3 since almost forever. he was very solid, sometimes took games of koreans, but he wasnt a top 5 foreigner at any point probably. pretty much like in sc2 i think, lol.

infi was NOT terrible when the scene was in the prime. that must be some huge hate.
violet was decent when the scene was on top, he was great when the scene started to die and won every cup when it was dead before transitioning into sc2.

you completly forget TeD.

sry dude, you got some things wrong in your head over time i think^^

On June 19 2013 08:09 Awesomeness wrote:
oh yeah Deadman...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eETDuqRxR8o

never forget

On June 19 2013 08:54 Dudasc wrote:


I was going to mention TeD but I had typed so much already .Yes, you are right about violet and hasuobs and it was exactly what I tried to say, I actually meant that hasuobs became more recognized a little bit later. He was just an "ok" european player. Sorry I guess my english is just bad I didnt express myself very well.

I only disagree with Infi, he was not "terrible", but he took a little bit more time to get to the top when compared to other legends. I remember he used to lose every single of his wc3l matches, he only started rising when wc3 started dying.

On June 19 2013 08:29 MyNameIsAlex wrote:

almost all the players you talking about (farseer, who, heman, evenstar shortround) stopped playing just right when TFT went out... so you cant really compare them to xiaot etc.

Focus should be on the orc least, agreed. Guy was a beast.

The undead list has many "old" players in it.

Deadman got benched and carreer-destroyed after that "kick with the leg" thing. Good player, stupid boy. Oh god the memories :D

On June 19 2013 09:04 Piledriver wrote:


What? FarSeer played for MYM as late as 2007 (he used to play under the nick a_headache, and he probably was at the top of his game in 2006-2007 season, when he went something ridiculous like 99-1 on the Kalimdor ladder versus top Korean players)

WhO made a comeback and joined SK in 2007-2008 I think. You can check out WhO's achievements for yourself.

http://www.sk-gaming.com/player/198-WhO

As for Undead, Blizzard pretty much killed the race. The only notable players were the old ones.

On June 19 2013 09:09 ABoilerRoom wrote:
Is madfrog the same madfrog that played a lot of early BW? And I think TargA(2008ish?) played some BW too?

On June 19 2013 08:45 monk wrote:
Anyone remember how good select was? I honestly can't recall at all.