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TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
June 05 2013 18:04 GMT
#41
On June 06 2013 02:46 dUTtrOACh wrote:
It's a little strange that they think that changes they make to a game years after people have formed their notions and reason for not buying the game will cause an influx of new players.

Nobody but the Starcraft 2 community even knows about the changes, so it's up to us to spread the word on their behalf? And what do we get? Some carbot cartoons portrait? Hooray!

Spawning should have been common sense ~3 years ago; by this point I fear it's too late. There are people who don't even realize they can get Wings of Liberty for a drastically reduced cost and catch up to HotS expansion fairly cheaply (which wasn't the case for WoW until pretty much Cataclysm).

Blizzard doesn't advertise enough and doesn't put enough money into the non-Korean scene for the money-making potential it has. They're going all-in on trying to become the equal to League of Legends in player base when it will never happen, and if that fails they at least want to grow as an eSport in Korea while losing all the global interest in the game as a consequence of turning every WCS region into a Korean proxy and marginalizing the foreign pro-scenes. I'm curious as to who their marketing genius is... Time to get on google.

Any website related to gaming has this as news. Gamespot, IGN, incgamers, all of them. I wouldnt be surprised if other websites just related to technology picked it up too.
Batcha
Profile Joined November 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina72 Posts
June 05 2013 18:07 GMT
#42
Amazing feature, really surprised that Blizzard is going through with this.
If only HOTS wasn't a letdown..
dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
June 05 2013 18:12 GMT
#43
On June 06 2013 03:04 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 02:46 dUTtrOACh wrote:
It's a little strange that they think that changes they make to a game years after people have formed their notions and reason for not buying the game will cause an influx of new players.

Nobody but the Starcraft 2 community even knows about the changes, so it's up to us to spread the word on their behalf? And what do we get? Some carbot cartoons portrait? Hooray!

Spawning should have been common sense ~3 years ago; by this point I fear it's too late. There are people who don't even realize they can get Wings of Liberty for a drastically reduced cost and catch up to HotS expansion fairly cheaply (which wasn't the case for WoW until pretty much Cataclysm).

Blizzard doesn't advertise enough and doesn't put enough money into the non-Korean scene for the money-making potential it has. They're going all-in on trying to become the equal to League of Legends in player base when it will never happen, and if that fails they at least want to grow as an eSport in Korea while losing all the global interest in the game as a consequence of turning every WCS region into a Korean proxy and marginalizing the foreign pro-scenes. I'm curious as to who their marketing genius is... Time to get on google.

Any website related to gaming has this as news. Gamespot, IGN, incgamers, all of them. I wouldnt be surprised if other websites just related to technology picked it up too.


Perhaps they're just not being aggressive enough.

How long until that news is buried beneath the constant deals and promotions? You have to market the game all the time, not only when it's presumed to be good timing. Also, it doesn't address the possibility of grabbing some console gamers and bringing them back to PC during the X1 PS4 transition that's coming up. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

I wish them the best of luck. I'm not entirely pessimistic about the whole thing, but everybody I've told about spawning had no idea about it, and I know quite a lot of gamers who never had any interest in SC2 but played War3 / BW / both.
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dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
June 05 2013 18:18 GMT
#44
On June 05 2013 08:41 -Kaiser- wrote:
Wow, classic blizzard. Take 1000 words to say virtually nothing. I translated the interview below for the time-starved.

+ Show Spoiler +
Why are you doing this?

To get more people to buy Starcraft 2.


Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since WarCraft 2 and StarCraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to StarCraft II?

It wasn't a priority.

A few months ago you stated there were no plans for a multiplayer free-to-play StarCraft II. Do you believe the Starter Edition and Spawning is the better way of going about putting the game out to the masses?

Yes.

Is there a possibility of having 1v1 Ladder play unlocked in the future?

No

Based on previous Spawnings in older games, do you have any guess on how many will use this, or how much the player base will increase?

No.

Do you think Spawning is the best way to get these people into StarCraft II-- those who have a notion of the game as a 1v1 hardcore eSport?

Yes.

Haha, nice. Though using many words to say only a few things is not exclusive to Blizzard.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
June 05 2013 18:24 GMT
#45
On June 05 2013 08:22 kayZer wrote:
At this point, looking on games like LoL, I think that they should make it F2P.


They spend a ton of money developing Starcraft with full campaigne and top quality pre-rendered cinematics and you want them to give it for free? Selling skin is not really an option in Starcraft too.
ishyishy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 19:21:40
June 05 2013 19:20 GMT
#46
This is not enough for me to come back to the game and buy HoTS. I dont enjoy playing team games anymore, and I'm not buying a $30-40 expansion for the mothership core, the only new unit that protoss uses in 95% of their games.

I guess you can say it's "my fault" for not playing all 3 races AND the single player missions to get full use of the content, but it would be ridiculous to use that claim.

I dont care if it's free to play or not, but I'm not playing unless I can play protoss on the ladder for free. You can keep terran and zerg, I will NEVER play them, and you can keep the single player and all of your $60,000 cimamatics because I dont care about those either.

Try again blizzard.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
June 05 2013 19:24 GMT
#47
On June 05 2013 08:41 -Kaiser- wrote:
Wow, classic blizzard. Take 1000 words to say virtually nothing. I translated the interview below for the time-starved.

+ Show Spoiler +
Why are you doing this?

To get more people to buy Starcraft 2.


Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since WarCraft 2 and StarCraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to StarCraft II?

It wasn't a priority.

A few months ago you stated there were no plans for a multiplayer free-to-play StarCraft II. Do you believe the Starter Edition and Spawning is the better way of going about putting the game out to the masses?

Yes.

Is there a possibility of having 1v1 Ladder play unlocked in the future?

No

Based on previous Spawnings in older games, do you have any guess on how many will use this, or how much the player base will increase?

No.

Do you think Spawning is the best way to get these people into StarCraft II-- those who have a notion of the game as a 1v1 hardcore eSport?

Yes.


Well they couldn't very well respond to the questions like that now could they?
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
June 05 2013 19:28 GMT
#48
I'm going to try to convince some friends at school to download the starter edition tomorrow. Can't decide if it's because I want the achievement or because I want a friend that plays Starcraft .
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
HyDrA_solic
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Portugal491 Posts
June 05 2013 19:30 GMT
#49
I'm a supporter of two models of business for SC2;

Competitive pack: Acess to 1v1 multiplayer only (10$ for both games or something) (No portraits or anything)
Full pack: Same price with all included
Campaign pack: Acess to campaign and arcade (price to be defined)

Something like this would be cool.
It's all about the reflections of freedom. Even though he hoped for a better world, with all his strenght, all his will, the most he could do was to make her smile.
Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 19:45:03
June 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#50
SC2 can't be F2P, where would blizzard get their money from? They are already stealing from tournaments, why would you want to make it worse? Also LoL is just kind of f2p, some of my friends invested around 30€ or more for some stuff... Sure you can play without paying, but i have come to understand that you have a big disadvantage...
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
June 05 2013 20:14 GMT
#51
On June 06 2013 04:44 Saumure wrote:
SC2 can't be F2P, where would blizzard get their money from? They are already stealing from tournaments, why would you want to make it worse? Also LoL is just kind of f2p, some of my friends invested around 30€ or more for some stuff... Sure you can play without paying, but i have come to understand that you have a big disadvantage...


It is safe to say that Blizzard are giving out more money to tournaments than they can possible get from them. For an example all GSL:s price money from the get go is from Blizzard.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 05 2013 20:35 GMT
#52
It would be good to have the following:
1. Massive ad campaign on every gaming, tech, news, youth, web, etc -oriented site: "Play Starcraft 2 for FREE NOW!"
2. Organize official incentives (more than just a one-time icon) for people to offer spawn to others - and in official Blizzard channels. Include those channels in the ads, so the noobs can go there and quickly find someone to spawn for them.

As it is, this feature only spreads from sc2-fans to their friends who would try sc2 if it was free. It doesn't spread as easily to the unknown average player whose friends don't play sc2, but he would try it if it was free. It has to be easy, not just possible.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
June 06 2013 16:07 GMT
#53
On June 06 2013 04:24 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 08:41 -Kaiser- wrote:
Wow, classic blizzard. Take 1000 words to say virtually nothing. I translated the interview below for the time-starved.

+ Show Spoiler +
Why are you doing this?

To get more people to buy Starcraft 2.


Spawning has been a feature in Blizzard games since WarCraft 2 and StarCraft: Brood War. As such a Blizzard-specific feature, why has it taken so long for this to come to StarCraft II?

It wasn't a priority.

A few months ago you stated there were no plans for a multiplayer free-to-play StarCraft II. Do you believe the Starter Edition and Spawning is the better way of going about putting the game out to the masses?

Yes.

Is there a possibility of having 1v1 Ladder play unlocked in the future?

No

Based on previous Spawnings in older games, do you have any guess on how many will use this, or how much the player base will increase?

No.

Do you think Spawning is the best way to get these people into StarCraft II-- those who have a notion of the game as a 1v1 hardcore eSport?

Yes.


Well they couldn't very well respond to the questions like that now could they?

Gotta keep asking the questions anyway, no matter what!
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