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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#261
On June 05 2013 15:42 ottersareneat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 10:30 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Great pickup.


Public compliment from Naz. Investment has already paid off.


I really hope you guys let him actually flourish.
AwM
Profile Joined November 2012
United States80 Posts
June 05 2013 14:38 GMT
#262
Way to go Xeno! And EG!
Every time you read this a SCV dies.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2013 14:43 GMT
#263
Techniques, hellokitty & Kane,

Young kids can be molded. If I'm looking for fresh meat I'm looking right at the 13-15 bracket tops. This is what we did in BW. The younger they are the more they can learn and the kid has a good foundation.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 05 2013 14:49 GMT
#264
very nice that eg sends him to dreamhack.
eventho i hoped for a story of him mowing enoguh yards to get the money togehter.
TL+ Member
Decadent
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden29 Posts
June 05 2013 14:50 GMT
#265
WOWOWOW!! Xeno :D:D:D
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 05 2013 14:59 GMT
#266
Watched some of his stream last night and he seems like a pretty likeable guy. Hope to see good stuff from him in the future, and congrats to him and EG!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 05 2013 15:15 GMT
#267
Go Libo!
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
June 05 2013 15:21 GMT
#268
EGCurse
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
June 05 2013 15:26 GMT
#269
I can't say I've ever heard of Xenocider before this, but if EG is willing to pick him up, he must be a damn promising player. All the best to both parties!
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 15:30:26
June 05 2013 15:28 GMT
#270
On June 06 2013 00:21 monsta wrote:
EGCurse


Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
June 05 2013 15:37 GMT
#271
I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 05 2013 15:38 GMT
#272
On June 06 2013 00:37 Shiori wrote:
I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!


You have grown weak. The esports hate community is disappointed.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 05 2013 16:01 GMT
#273
On June 06 2013 00:37 Shiori wrote:
I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!


It's because he's your best friend more than anything else lol.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 05 2013 16:01 GMT
#274
Wow.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
June 05 2013 16:10 GMT
#275
congrats to xenocider! Great persistence on his part and glad to see hes getting better all the time!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
June 05 2013 16:13 GMT
#276
On June 06 2013 00:28 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:21 monsta wrote:
EGCurse


Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.


The modern EG-curse is much simpler then the old one.
- player that gets some attention, is developing, doing well
- joins EG
- starts streaming 24/7, because hell, this is way more fun (and financially more efficient then trying to find some whole day $50 prizemoney tourney, that does not have 3 koreans in it, and then losing in round 7 after wasting a full day to another player that had the same thoughtprocess coming into the tournament)
- doesn't develop at all, gets worse again and settles at some decent level (still good enough to do funny things on stream, but far away from being competitive)
- doesn't care about that, since streaming gives enough money without any success in tourneys

And well, when you look at the thread, you see that most of the community is willing to support this once again.
STREAM MORE!!! ALL WATCH HIS STREAM!!! GUYS SO GOOD WHEN STREAMING!!!
but let's all pretend that this is the best way to practice, because he is explaining so much of his thoughtprocess while streaming! Pretty sure professional racedrivers also practice by teaching their children how to ride a bike.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 05 2013 16:24 GMT
#277
On June 06 2013 01:13 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 00:28 StarStruck wrote:
On June 06 2013 00:21 monsta wrote:
EGCurse


Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.


The modern EG-curse is much simpler then the old one.
- player that gets some attention, is developing, doing well
- joins EG
- starts streaming 24/7, because hell, this is way more fun (and financially more efficient then trying to find some whole day $50 prizemoney tourney, that does not have 3 koreans in it, and then losing in round 7 after wasting a full day to another player that had the same thoughtprocess coming into the tournament)
- doesn't develop at all, gets worse again and settles at some decent level (still good enough to do funny things on stream, but far away from being competitive)
- doesn't care about that, since streaming gives enough money without any success in tourneys

And well, when you look at the thread, you see that most of the community is willing to support this once again.
STREAM MORE!!! ALL WATCH HIS STREAM!!! GUYS SO GOOD WHEN STREAMING!!!
but let's all pretend that this is the best way to practice, because he is explaining so much of his thoughtprocess while streaming! Pretty sure professional racedrivers also practice by teaching their children how to ride a bike.


You forgot the most recent developments with EG:

Revival takes second place in WCS NA vs LiquidHero
Stephano takes second place in WCS EU vs MVP.
Demuslim makes it through all of the qualifiers for Challenger, through Challenger and into Premier League for NA. All while stream quite often.
Thorzain qualifiers for premier league for EU.

But I am sure the argument that streaming to much still hold water. Clearly they aren't putting up any results beyond taking second place in two regions.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Billinator
Profile Joined July 2012
United States86 Posts
June 05 2013 16:35 GMT
#278
I don't know if this is good or bad. Seeing xenocider picked up gives me hope that i might eventually go pro if I get better. Feels like so much false hope though . GL xenocider
MKP, Select, DeMusliM
aaycumi
Profile Joined March 2011
England265 Posts
June 05 2013 18:14 GMT
#279
On Xenocider's stream, below the pro-line, I've heard of him a couple of times. From EG players no less. And watched him a couple of times but hadn't heard of him for a year or so.

Out of nowhere EG,
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
June 05 2013 18:26 GMT
#280
Great news. EG is doing the right thing. We need way more support for foreign, especially American talents in order to maintain an entertaining scene.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
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