My name is Cody Conners, and I'm the General Manager of Evil Geniuses. I'm excited to announce that today we'll be adding Libo “Xenocider” Chang to our Starcraft 2 division.
Sometime last year I read a thread on Reddit about a fifteen year old kid taking games off our players in smaller events and on the ladder. While it wasn't exactly the criteria that makes me call Alex and insist that he start to draft up a contract, I remembered thinking that it was impressive that someone so young could be competitive on that level. As time went on I'd continue to see his name from time to time. He'd post a replay pack and it would get a decent amount of attention or someone would recommend his stream noting that he was an underrated player and that Terran players should tune in.
At some point in time Libo wrote Alex Garfield (our CEO) an email letting him know that he wanted to play for Evil Geniuses. We discussed it internally and decided that it wasn't the right fit at the time. A few months later Libo wandered up to me at an MLG and asked if he could speak to Alex. Alex wasn't at the event, but I was impressed with Libo’s persistence and suggested to him that he send us another email in a month.
Alex beat him to the punch and reached out to him via a private message on Reddit. While nothing formal nor official came from their conversations there, it allowed Libo and our company to better understand one another's goals. Shortly after Heart of the Swarm's release Libo reached back out to us, and then he reached back out us again, and again. At no point did it ever get annoying, because Libo was consistently getting better as a player and with each and every correspondence we would grow more and more fond of the idea of adding him to our roster. Eventually we decided that this was a relationship we could make work, and we contracted him on a private, training-only basis with the understanding that if he continued to grow as a player, he could eventually find himself on our official squad. He did continue to grow as a player, and now here we are.
We, as an organization, have historically been criticized for not fostering up and coming talent with our StarCraft 2 division. In our opinion, this is often over-exaggerated, but it’s still something that we know we need to work on. While it's thrilling to have a roster filled with superstars and legends, we understand that it's important to invest it talent that is growing and will continue to grow.
If we look back on 2012 I feel like it's safe to say that we put together a stable of players whose fame and stardom eclipsed almost every other team in the world. We grabbed ThorZaIN, we grabbed Stephano, and we grabbed Jaedong. Nestled in there we snagged the up-and-coming North American Suppy. Suppy wasn't a typical EG pickup, but he's since become one of our most consistently highest placing players. Suppy is now someone that I cannot imagine being on another team.
I'm optimistic that with the right support Libo will grow as a player, and that we as a team will benefit from having him on board.
So happy for you Libo! It's been a long time coming, and I still remember giving you advice back at MLG Orlando 2011. So happy to see you finally where you deserve to be .
Big congrats to Xenocider, huge step up for him. I remember JUST reading about how he left the Quantic academy team because he wanted something more. awesome awesome awesome awesome news. live the dream libo!!
Was wondering how he was going to get to Dreamhack, now it makes sense. Pretty cool pickup for EG though, good up and comer with a lot of talent. Congrats Xeno!
Nice. EG supporting the local boys. I also love the story about the kid just asking Alex to play for EG. That takes a lot of brass and its great a kid so young could do it so professionally.
That was a neat little story, shows good initiative from Xeno's side as well, which was obviously a big factor in the final decision to draft him. This is a pretty bold move for a company like EG, there'll be a lot more scrutiny on them than if a smaller team like say WW had signed him. Suppy has proved to be an excellent catch so I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out. More Terrans is always good too.
That's a cool move, I fully support this! Funny how the roles are reversed this time and Mouz got the stars, while EG got a newcomer . Gratz Xenocider/Libo!
Sick, he's always been one of my favourite players and it's good to see him getting recognition. Also makes me feel a sense if accomplishment, as I privately picked him for breakout player of 2013 :D
really weird pickup at such a young age since his parents will still have such a large influence on his decisions. also weird considering how unknown he is as opposed to when suppy joined and he had such a large fanbase.
Cool stuff, it's always nice to see teams pick up young talent and try to develop them. Sometimes it doesn't work but sometimes it pays off, like for mouz with Heromarine.
lol sick, I remember watching his stream last year when he was struggling in high master/gm and now he's on EG. Things can go very fast. Good luck bro. Haven't seem him play lately though cos I need some sleep at night atm and he seems to have disabled his vod-saving on twitch
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
There is already a reward in how this will help shine a positive light on EG. This will be an effective marketing move as long as Xenocider doesn't do anything too outrageous to damage the EG brand, which initially appears unlikely from the many interactions I've seen him have on player streams.
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
Yeah, let's give out the EG-Tag to any GM-player, because it is supercheap (well, they get just the tag, no money involved, ezpz) and may be a geniusmove, because the next ST_Life might be between those players!
Adding random players may in fact damage your brand... And xenocider is pretty much that, even at american level (which is already quite low) he is meaningless. If they wanted to do smth good, they could have also given the money to the red cross... Would have been better PR.
I swear whenever EG picks up an established player people go "Rofl classic EG can't get talent so they buy it" then when EG picks up an up and comer like xenocider people go "Wow EG why are you wasting money on nobodies".
After missing out on DuranDuran this is still a really nice pick up. They needed another Terran on the team. Nice to see them get a young up and coming American. His name is recognizable (how could you not recognize it) but he doesn't have results. Hopefully this helps him become a stronger player.
Seemed to have an attitude but, he is young so hopefully he does a lot of growing up with EG also.
On June 05 2013 06:16 BobMcJohnson wrote: Wow unexpected. Cool to see EG picking up rising NA players like him and suppy, really cool
I thought a lot of people already knew about this. o_O When it comes to worst kept secrets EG is definitely high on the list.
On June 05 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote: I swear whenever EG picks up an established player people go "Rofl classic EG can't get talent so they buy it" then when EG picks up an up and comer like xenocider people go "Wow EG why are you wasting money on nobodies".
That's more of a recent trend and in my book they still haven't flourished with players that wreak of potential. I still see Suppy making small mistakes and if he corrected those. He would be a much better player than he is right now. It's a shame because I said something similar for guy's like Illusion yet I'm still waiting for him to deliver.
Congrats to both parties! Hopefully Xenocider turns out to be as awesome a pickup as Suppy did, and hopefully he shows as much growth and dedication after getting signed.
I really like that EG is still trying to grab up-and-comers along with the established stars. The recruiting approach of, "You deserve to be on our team. Welcome to EG," is a fine way to go about recruiting big time competitors, but I think the opposite mentality of "Welcome to EG. Now prove that you deserve to be on our team," probably ultimately develops a stronger roster of players.
On June 05 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote: I swear whenever EG picks up an established player people go "Rofl classic EG can't get talent so they buy it" then when EG picks up an up and comer like xenocider people go "Wow EG why are you wasting money on nobodies".
EG CURSE - Newly Joined TOP players who already have reached their limits and had no emotional stimulus to prove themselves anymore. They got best conditions, best salaries additional to already existing respect and achievements - there is no way uphill, only downhill. Congratulations EG with new (and IMO best) pick - Xenocider. He still have long way to go to prove himself and maybe one day he will become new EG trademark especially now when Idra left.
Just tore my headphones off in surprise and amazement! As a Libo hipster, I've been following him for a while, but had no idea something this big was coming. I was wondering how he was getting to DH Summer, but I was not in any way expecting this. Fuck yeah Xeno!
I sincerly hope that this move "investing in talent, rather than a big name" works out for EG. This is no sarcastic comment or anything. EG deserves a positive experience in this new field
This guy has so much potential it's unbelievable. He's only 16, imagine if EG-TL would make him part of their Proleague line up.. If he's "good enough", that is. Kid's going to be big.
Guess he probably is a Zerg though, Though EG if anything (IMO) - EG is lacking Protosses ATM..
But can't say that that's a bad pickup cause - every team needs some young blood as well as in this particular circumstance - Stephano gonna retire in a few months so..
from the first moments of watching xenocider's stream back maybe a year ago, i was under the impression that he is a genius (no pun intended) at starcraft2. his way of thinking and grasp of the game made me an immediate fan. and apparently EG was impressed by how fast he kept improving.
all you haters here... go f*** yourself.
On June 05 2013 07:05 Cornstarched wrote: Great, another eg player for proleauge, that dosnt stream, dosnt speak english and is so polite i turn off interviews with them.
great, another hater who doesnt even know xeno in the slightest.
On June 05 2013 07:05 VArsovskiSC wrote: What race does this Xenocider guy play ?
Guess he probably is a Zerg though, Though EG if anything (IMO) - EG is lacking Protosses ATM..
But can't say that that's a bad pickup cause - every team needs some young blood as well as in this particular circumstance - Stephano gonna retire in a few months so..
On June 05 2013 07:03 zul wrote: I sincerly hope that this move "investing in talent, rather than a big name" works out for EG. This is no sarcastic comment or anything. EG deserves a positive experience in this new field
On June 05 2013 06:47 Fusilero wrote: I swear whenever EG picks up an established player people go "Rofl classic EG can't get talent so they buy it" then when EG picks up an up and comer like xenocider people go "Wow EG why are you wasting money on nobodies".
because you can't win if you're MLG or EG :O
EG should just pick up two people from both rectums at once. Polt & Xeno woulda bee cool. Polt is not on a real team is he?
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
Yeah, let's give out the EG-Tag to any GM-player, because it is supercheap (well, they get just the tag, no money involved, ezpz) and may be a geniusmove, because the next ST_Life might be between those players!
Adding random players may in fact damage your brand... And xenocider is pretty much that, even at american level (which is already quite low) he is meaningless. If they wanted to do smth good, they could have also given the money to the red cross... Would have been better PR.
When Mouz signed Heromarine, he was a similar case. a high masters/low GM player who was still meaningless. Talent does devop under the right conditions though and today he is at least a top10 Terran in EU (probably even between rank 5-8)
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
Yeah, let's give out the EG-Tag to any GM-player, because it is supercheap (well, they get just the tag, no money involved, ezpz) and may be a geniusmove, because the next ST_Life might be between those players!
Adding random players may in fact damage your brand... And xenocider is pretty much that, even at american level (which is already quite low) he is meaningless. If they wanted to do smth good, they could have also given the money to the red cross... Would have been better PR.
When Mouz signed Heromarine, he was a similar case. a high masters/low GM player who was still meaningless. Talent does devop under the right conditions though and today he is at least a top10 Terran in EU (probably even between rank 5-8)
This is a little bit different, as Xenocider has been #1 GM on NA before. He's not exactly a nobody.
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
who are you again ? oh thats right no one
That's the point of an internet forum. Nobodies like him, you and me can express our thoughts.
Not really sure who this guy is, but I like EG picking up big names like JD along with up and comers. Nice to see them growing the industry on multiple fronts.
On June 05 2013 06:31 Msr wrote: Extremely poor choice by EG, I can not fathom their thought process. Good luck with it though...
wat
How on earth is that an extremely poor choice? At worst it's a very small failed investment, at best it's a genius move, the risk is minimal and the reward could be anywhere from nothing to everything.
I don't see how you got to your opinion on the signing.
Yeah, let's give out the EG-Tag to any GM-player, because it is supercheap (well, they get just the tag, no money involved, ezpz) and may be a geniusmove, because the next ST_Life might be between those players!
Adding random players may in fact damage your brand... And xenocider is pretty much that, even at american level (which is already quite low) he is meaningless. If they wanted to do smth good, they could have also given the money to the red cross... Would have been better PR.
When Mouz signed Heromarine, he was a similar case. a high masters/low GM player who was still meaningless. Talent does devop under the right conditions though and today he is at least a top10 Terran in EU (probably even between rank 5-8)
This is a little bit different, as Xenocider has been #1 GM on NA before. He's not exactly a nobody.
Oh, I didn`t know that, but even better for EG then.
Awesome read! I'm pretty happy for both Libo and EG. That kid is pretty amazing seeing how he is only 15 and can compete with best of the best among the foreigner, and be able to compete with Koreans, while based at his own home. :D GL to EG and best of luck to Xenocider! I expect great things to come out of both for the remaining year! :D
This is soo awesome too see. Someone at the age of 15 years old soo good in starcraft game that a professional team would come out and pick him up. He has such a bright future! Good luck to Xenocider and as well as Evil Geniuses!
This is quite a gem of a pickup for EG. Anyone who has ever seen his stream will tell you it one of the best streams out there. It has high level play with very informative commentary. And the best part? He has repeatedly said that he ENJOYS doing it. His quality stream is the result of his enthusiasm. Hell, he doesn't even play commercials just so he can have more time to speak to his audience.
Young, motivated, enthusiastic, and already very skilled. I look forward to seeing him compete under the EG banner.
We, as an organization, have historically been criticized for not fostering up and coming talent with our StarCraft 2 division. In our opinion, this is often over-exaggerated, but it’s still something that we know we need to work on. While it's thrilling to have a roster filled with superstars and legends, we understand that it's important to invest it talent that is growing and will continue to grow.
If we look back on 2012 I feel like it's safe to say that we put together a stable of players whose fame and stardom eclipsed almost every other team in the world. We grabbed ThorZaIN, we grabbed Stephano, and we grabbed Jaedong. Nestled in there we snagged the up-and-coming North American Suppy. Suppy wasn't a typical EG pickup, but he's since become one of our most consistently highest placing players. Suppy is now someone that I cannot imagine being on another team.
I did feel this way about EG so it's really nice to see them making some real effort to develop growing talent, especially since Xenocider seems so attracted to EG, let's see if finally getting signed by EG will propel him even higher.
With some of their giants stepping down, it's nice to see EG is going the route of growing players that are skilled, rather than grabbing developed players with large title wins. Granted they have already done this with Suppy, so it's not new; though it's nice to see this was not a one off thing and rather something they will continue to do.
Grats to Xenocider. That's a really impressive achievement for someone so young.
I'm excited to see what will become of someone so young raised to be a professional Starcraft player. We see players all the time in Korea who are 16 or 17 playing in GSL, but it's a very rare occurrence in the States for a professional on such a big team to be under the age of 18.
I'm excited to see this kid's games and, deep down, I'm hoping that his early start will lead to a player on the same level as someone such as Flash or Jaedong.
I'm just going to point out, saying "someone could be so competitive at such a young age" just sounds like a ridiculously stupid comment to me. At age 15 you can't drive yet - you're in your friggin video game prime!!
First off, I'm impressed by Xenocider's persistence with EG, always following up. That's actually a really important part of getting any job, and it shows maturity on his part.
It's also nice to see EG take a risk with an up and comer
On June 05 2013 06:18 Junichi wrote: There's a lesson here: if you want to be on EG, just keep on bugging them about picking you up.
Joking aside: gl to Xenocider, use your chance!
Honestly that is not a joke, I think it is a pretty valuable lesson. That is a pretty similar story to how I got my job. Building a decent resume, cold contacting the relevant people, then following up in a timely but not bothersome manner is pretty freaking impressive for a teenager.
Grats to him, and I hope it works out for both parties.
If he can follow the same success Suppy has managed(but that may be a bit difficult), that would be great.
One Terran I wish EG would have signed was Illusion before he went to mouz. I always held Illusion in high regard since he's quite young, and a really good foreigner Terran.
I'm not necessarily a fan of a terran pickup. You need to practice 10+ hours a day doing standard builds against high level opponents to have a shot at competing with the Koreans. zerg on the other hand is not as mechanically demanding. As such, foreign zergs have seen more success than any other race. We'll see if Xeno can prove me wrong.
Prospects on first match against MajOr: I'm not afraid but he plays mech and there's no one on NA that does that besides MaSa so we'll have to see. I believe if they go into macro games I will win 2-0 <
On June 05 2013 10:37 MajOr wrote: Prospects on first match against MajOr: I'm not afraid but he plays mech and there's no one on NA that does that besides MaSa so we'll have to see. I believe if they go into macro games I will win 2-0 <
Just so you know, Libo really looks up to you as a player . He was just being confident haha.
On June 05 2013 11:12 GoldenGun wrote: Bad pick up from EG. Grats to xeno i guess, lets hope he doesn't plateau.
Unless Xenocider becomes a PR nightmare (in which case EG would just cut him from the team), his pickup is a good investment. Maybe he won't win a WCS anytime soon, but EG and the community never placed those expectations on him either like they do with a player like Stephano, and they almost certainly aren't paying him a hefty salary either.
EG also gets credit from the community for supporting the local NA scene and promoting up and coming players this way, and the positive goodwill from the community could be significant towards EG's overall image.
On June 05 2013 11:12 GoldenGun wrote: Bad pick up from EG. Grats to xeno i guess, lets hope he doesn't plateau.
Unless Xenocider becomes a PR nightmare (in which case EG would just cut him from the team), his pickup is a good investment. Maybe he won't win a WCS anytime soon, but EG and the community never placed those expectations on him either like they do with a player like Stephano, and they almost certainly aren't paying him a hefty salary either.
EG also gets credit from the community for supporting the local NA scene and promoting up and coming players this way, and the positive goodwill from the community could be significant towards EG's overall image.
The case of Xenocider may be the second Suppy case if things go as planned. For such a young kid still developing his skills, he manages to play with the best on the NA server and has enormous potential to grow as a player still. Similar to Suppy, who was just another NA player who no one expected to grow much, EG developed his talent and let him become a real contender for best NA player. Instead of signing big names like Jaedong and Stephano, EG knows Xenocider is a good investment, because he either performs well, or doesn't perform as well as believed, but still manages to maintain a good image with EG for a relatively low cost to the brand.
On June 05 2013 12:03 Let it Raine wrote: i dont see why age is a factor in anything video gaming related
was no one good at anything when they were in school?
strange pickup, probably close to free though.
Huh? That means he still got a lot more years to stay in the competitive scene if he wish so. Just look at how many pro are considering retirement after around 20 because of going to college.
And why is age not relevant? Do you see any 60 yo players? Lol
Sick pick up, definitely one of the best players in HSL. Should be a good storyline this summer for the HSL vs CSL showmatch, with Xenocider and Suppy being the two best players of their respective leagues. :D
i must admit, i have not heard of him yet – i don't mean that in a harmful way, i sadly just don't have the time to catch up on anything but the biggest tournaments. but reading the OP has made me really curious – sounds like a promising pickup! i want to see him play, so i have added him to my fav streams
should use more of the esports dollars whipping EGTL into shape for their last round of proleague and next season...owell maybe EG will shift more to NA focus after this year.
On June 05 2013 06:28 ROOTKane wrote: really weird pickup at such a young age since his parents will still have such a large influence on his decisions. also weird considering how unknown he is as opposed to when suppy joined and he had such a large fanbase.
either way congratz!
i agree don't quite understand but whatever eg is think should be pretty big
good luck xenocider, hopefully i can hit you more on ladder than just once in a couple of month.
time for a xenocider vs heromarine showdown :D (eventhough considering what i have seen of heromarine and xenocider heromarine would be quite the favorite but still i'd love to see it :D )
Young kids can be molded. If I'm looking for fresh meat I'm looking right at the 13-15 bracket tops. This is what we did in BW. The younger they are the more they can learn and the kid has a good foundation.
Watched some of his stream last night and he seems like a pretty likeable guy. Hope to see good stuff from him in the future, and congrats to him and EG!
I can't say I've ever heard of Xenocider before this, but if EG is willing to pick him up, he must be a damn promising player. All the best to both parties!
Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.
I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!
On June 06 2013 00:37 Shiori wrote: I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!
You have grown weak. The esports hate community is disappointed.
On June 06 2013 00:37 Shiori wrote: I just want to say, EG has gradually won me over. I started off as the biggest anti-EG person in the world, and yet they've finally convinced me that they really do care about eSports in the best possible way. Helps that they signed one of my best friends, but still. EG fighting!
It's because he's your best friend more than anything else lol.
Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.
The modern EG-curse is much simpler then the old one. - player that gets some attention, is developing, doing well - joins EG - starts streaming 24/7, because hell, this is way more fun (and financially more efficient then trying to find some whole day $50 prizemoney tourney, that does not have 3 koreans in it, and then losing in round 7 after wasting a full day to another player that had the same thoughtprocess coming into the tournament) - doesn't develop at all, gets worse again and settles at some decent level (still good enough to do funny things on stream, but far away from being competitive) - doesn't care about that, since streaming gives enough money without any success in tourneys
And well, when you look at the thread, you see that most of the community is willing to support this once again. STREAM MORE!!! ALL WATCH HIS STREAM!!! GUYS SO GOOD WHEN STREAMING!!! but let's all pretend that this is the best way to practice, because he is explaining so much of his thoughtprocess while streaming! Pretty sure professional racedrivers also practice by teaching their children how to ride a bike.
Kind of hard to be cursed when he actually hasn't really done anything yet no? EG were known for taking players who arguably peaked out in the past. Considering LucifroN and his brother VortiX decided to decline Alex's offer. I would think you would want to make your team look a little more appealing than just the money. You can see Alex wants to get away from the stigma that comes attached to the EG brand when he established the Eurobrand with the Alliance where NTH are running over the DotA2 scene and let loose NaNiwa. Not a bad idea if I say so myself. So what's the next step? Fostering young talent with a lot of potential and providing them a place to exceed expectations. This is where Superiorwolf (a.k.a. Suppy) and guys like Xeno come in. They want to be more than a place go when they're set to retire or their best days are behind them, so save the EG Curse for someone else Mister.
The modern EG-curse is much simpler then the old one. - player that gets some attention, is developing, doing well - joins EG - starts streaming 24/7, because hell, this is way more fun (and financially more efficient then trying to find some whole day $50 prizemoney tourney, that does not have 3 koreans in it, and then losing in round 7 after wasting a full day to another player that had the same thoughtprocess coming into the tournament) - doesn't develop at all, gets worse again and settles at some decent level (still good enough to do funny things on stream, but far away from being competitive) - doesn't care about that, since streaming gives enough money without any success in tourneys
And well, when you look at the thread, you see that most of the community is willing to support this once again. STREAM MORE!!! ALL WATCH HIS STREAM!!! GUYS SO GOOD WHEN STREAMING!!! but let's all pretend that this is the best way to practice, because he is explaining so much of his thoughtprocess while streaming! Pretty sure professional racedrivers also practice by teaching their children how to ride a bike.
You forgot the most recent developments with EG:
Revival takes second place in WCS NA vs LiquidHero Stephano takes second place in WCS EU vs MVP. Demuslim makes it through all of the qualifiers for Challenger, through Challenger and into Premier League for NA. All while stream quite often. Thorzain qualifiers for premier league for EU.
But I am sure the argument that streaming to much still hold water. Clearly they aren't putting up any results beyond taking second place in two regions.
I don't know if this is good or bad. Seeing xenocider picked up gives me hope that i might eventually go pro if I get better. Feels like so much false hope though . GL xenocider
On Xenocider's stream, below the pro-line, I've heard of him a couple of times. From EG players no less. And watched him a couple of times but hadn't heard of him for a year or so.
interesting pickup by EG. Growing home talent is certainly the way to go. I don't know much about Xenocider's play but heard good things about him. Wishing him all the best luck!
Hell yeah man. I've seen some of this guys games and i'm surprised he hasn't been put on the lineup before this! Definitely expecting him to tear up some good players.
I'm starting to like EG more and more these days. Stephano and Idra leaving the team and finally a terran pickup who hasn't even established himself yet in the top level.
On June 08 2013 22:34 tadL wrote: I really hope he gets his chance and is not just a marketing pick up that will end up just streaming because he is not send to tournaments.
Cause EG does that... Not like they are sending him to DH.
EPT
Xenocider” Chang to our Starcraft 2 division. 
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I really hope you guys let him actually flourish.
