Stephano to retire from SC2 in August to return to studies…

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Martijn

Netherlands1219 Posts

May 15 2013 13:47 GMT

#881

On May 15 2013 20:32 E.L.V.I.S wrote:

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EG.DIMAGA

If we want to get technical, I'd sooner think Aliance.DIMAGA, but hey, same names on the checks so..

AwM

United States80 Posts

May 15 2013 15:23 GMT

#882

On May 15 2013 22:46 Slomo wrote:

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They have Naniwa already.

Wait...really? When did EG pick up Nani?

BUT- GG and good luck with your studies, Step!

Butterednuts

United States859 Posts

May 15 2013 15:26 GMT

#883

I don't understand why he just doesn't stop now. His contract sounds really flexible and expendable. If he's really not enjoying his time then he should just stop taking tournament spots from people that are passionate about the game.

Ollix

United States18 Posts

May 15 2013 15:39 GMT

#884

And another marketable EG player down. Sad to see him go, but he's been talking about this for awhile so not much of a surprise.

Ollix

United States18 Posts

May 15 2013 15:40 GMT

#885

On May 16 2013 00:26 Butterednuts wrote:
I don't understand why he just doesn't stop now. His contract sounds really flexible and expendable. If he's really not enjoying his time then he should just stop taking tournament spots from people that are passionate about the game.

Because he's contracted until then. It isn't really his choice.

GunSec

1095 Posts

May 15 2013 15:43 GMT

#886

On May 16 2013 00:40 Ollix wrote:

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Because he's contracted until then. It isn't really his choice.

and he is earning a lot of money every month plus the school semester doesn't really start in the summer lol

yeeshdontjudgeme

146 Posts

May 15 2013 17:02 GMT

#887

On May 16 2013 00:23 AwM wrote:

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Wait...really? When did EG pick up Nani?

BUT- GG and good luck with your studies, Step!

EG = Alliance. That's what the whole discussion is about.

Grumbels

Netherlands7032 Posts

May 15 2013 17:23 GMT

#888

On May 15 2013 09:15 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:

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On May 14 2013 20:42 Grumbels wrote:

On May 14 2013 20:23 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:

On May 14 2013 20:08 onewaystyx wrote:

On May 14 2013 19:54 revel8 wrote:

On May 14 2013 19:26 onewaystyx wrote:
I find it obnoxious to say that he is the best foreigner in sc2 history when he isnt by miles. Success isnt measured in money, but much more in accomplishments.

In that regard jinro is the best foreigner in sc2 history and for me always will be since his lvl of play at that time still hasnt been matched to the day today by any foreigner. Right behind him is idra who just gets mocked by so many people despite him being a living legend and then thered be naniwa with 2 gsl code s ro8 back to back.

Stephano was honestly terrible vs koreans as he proved in his gsl run and winning foreign tournaments means nothing.

Stephano is rated so highly BECAUSE of his wins against Koreans.

If you want to pretend winning foreign tournaments means nothing, then you should not expect to be taken seriously.

people that consider stephano being better than jinro should not be taken seriously. 2 ro4 finishes back to back. Nobody besides him has ever even made it to the ro4. He even beat mc on scrap station using mech. Havent seen that happen even once after him. So stop being a little stephano fan boy and give the actualy foreign legends recognition.

Jinro competed well in an undeveloped metagame. Most of the opponents he faced and beat were not even in the next GSL after his last Ro4 finish. Pretty much all of his opponents that he faced in those two Ro4 finishes are retired or are practically nothing in the scene except for MarineKing and MC. Stephano on the other hand competed in a vastly developed metagame where the bad players of early SC2 were weeded out only leaving the best of the best. Although he doesn't have Ro4 finishes, I'd honestly consider a Ro16 performance in the current GSL much more impressive than a Ro4 showing in the earlier GSLs.

That's no disrespect to the champions of the era like MVP, MC, and NesTea--those were really the only three actually good players of the era as they are only ones of that era that are even still competing. Guys like FruitDealer and Tester were good for the era but in terms of long-term skill they lacked it. To give you a good idea of how undeveloped the meta was at the time, FruitDealer won the first ever GSL basically off of pure cheese and all-ins. Even his "macro" games were "cheesy" where he took massive risks by overproducing drones to gain an advantage. He relied on trickery rather than actual mechanics and skill.

You don't know what you're talking about. Taeja, Polt, Maru, Losira, Byun, Genius, Zenio, San, Leenock, Jjakji, Sound, Inca, sC, Vines, Golden, Squirtle, Gumiho, Alive are just some of the people that were playing in the GSL open seasons in 2010.

edit: extending this to the first two GSL seasons of 2011, in which Jinro had a Ro4 and a Ro16, we get some more players: Killer, Ace, Top, Line, YuGiOh, MMA, Coca, Noblesse, Curious, Alicia, Losira, Supernova, Ganzi, Revival, and this is not counting players like Nada, Boxer, July.

But were they top players at the time as they are now? (2010 to early 2011) They weren't. Stephano was actually playing SC2 around this time as well yet nobody knew him. I only named those three because not only were they competing back then and now, but also they were the best of their era. All those players you listed are indeed competing now but they were nowhere near the best during the early part of SC2. MVP, NesTea, and MC have been around the top or considered top players since that time AND now.

I literally picked GSL participants, do you really want to argue that those players weren't any good back then?

AwM

United States80 Posts

May 15 2013 17:33 GMT

#889

On May 16 2013 02:02 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote:

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EG = Alliance. That's what the whole discussion is about.

Really? I don't know how I missed that. Have they always been the same, or was it a more recent thing?

Damn school making me lose track on my eSports.

Ketama)Djin(

Germany2593 Posts

May 15 2013 18:50 GMT

#890

Stephano gave so much joy to the community.

It is alway a pleasure to watch him play. In my opinion he is the Mondragon of SC2

matsushi

Philippines65 Posts

May 15 2013 18:53 GMT

#891

It's been a great run. Seems like a pretty good choice though considering the circumstances of the present.

ElmOaid

Sudan41 Posts

May 16 2013 03:21 GMT

#892

He made more money in sc2 that what he can make with an education... interesting decision.

Havik_

United States5585 Posts

May 16 2013 03:31 GMT

#893

On May 15 2013 22:46 Slomo wrote:

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They have Naniwa already.

Careful now. People will think you're serious.:p With Idra and Stephano gone, EG would have the kind of money (if they didn't have enough already) to pick up a heavy hitter like Naniwa or maybe another big Korean. EGFlashRC anyone?

SimoNostalgia

United States226 Posts

May 16 2013 04:50 GMT

#894

Good move. Hope he still streams and stuff

Selke

Canada27 Posts

May 16 2013 06:05 GMT

#895

This is sad.. but gl hf in med school!

iloveav

Poland1484 Posts

May 16 2013 12:09 GMT

#896

EG has not had the most amazing results latly, so i dont know how much the sponsors actually shell into them.
That beeing said, sponsors care more about beeing visible rather than having a winning team.

There are a lot of great players out there but in sc2 things shift so fast that its impossible to know who will be doing great 6 months from now.

Goblins

United States1 Post

May 16 2013 12:59 GMT

#897

This is such sad news..

AmericanUmlaut

Germany2597 Posts

May 16 2013 13:27 GMT

#898

On May 16 2013 12:21 ElmOaid wrote:
He made more money in sc2 that what he can make with an education... interesting decision.

You mean to say he has made more money per month while at his prime than he could earn on average per month with an education. I've been working with a college degree for about six years now and I've earned more money than Stephano has in his entire SC2 career. Unless you think he's going to be pulling down top-tier tournament wins into his 40s, stopping while he's on top is a very intelligent move.

shivver

United States232 Posts

May 16 2013 14:00 GMT

#899

On May 15 2013 12:29 Havik_ wrote:
OMGLOLWTFBBQ :p

I have a hard time believing this. Couldn't he study and at least play part time? He used to play 3 hours a day before he got big. If I were him, I'd at least try to make both work before giving up completely.

that'd require being less of a drama queen

On May 16 2013 22:27 AmericanUmlaut wrote:

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so in 6 years working full-time you've managed to accumulate more than stephano has made in give or take basically a years worth playing, and not playing very hard either. It's not like he's a 8-12 hours a day korean cyborg practicing monster. He does play a considerable amount, but he is at a 6 times better ratio than you and he has travelled all over the world and has the funds to go anywhere he wants at probably any time.

I'd take the gaming career, you act like sc2 is going anywhere but up.

EkiTh

France12 Posts

May 16 2013 16:19 GMT

#900

I think it's a pretty good timing to do that for him.

Will be missed anyway.

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