On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote:
You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players?
You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players?
Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't.
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
May 13 2013 19:30 GMT
#4721
On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't. | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
May 13 2013 19:31 GMT
#4722
On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Hey, tell that to Bisu fans. Edit : or Nada's. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
May 13 2013 19:37 GMT
#4723
On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? | ||
Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
May 13 2013 19:37 GMT
#4724
On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka You're rather fat white nerds typing insults? I don't. Also, there is a large different between Nerchio and Idra. | ||
sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 13 2013 19:39 GMT
#4725
On May 14 2013 04:37 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? your competing against each other in turns. in how many strokes you can put the ball in the whole or get the points in darts. otherwise things like swimming and skating wouldn't be a sport either. | ||
JackDragon
525 Posts
May 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#4726
On May 14 2013 04:37 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? Umm... Where have I ever said that it isn't? Golf definitely fits the criteria. I don't know much about dart but I'd say it fits as well. | ||
Araneae
Norway100 Posts
May 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#4727
On May 14 2013 04:37 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? and bowling, donæt forget that and also chess^^ | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada16367 Posts
May 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#4728
On May 14 2013 02:51 mijellin wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this whole "release" is contrived. Geoff Robinson is hte captain of the team and is not informed of it? He finds out during a talk show? LOL Geoff's "stunned reaction" was great. Give the man an Oscar. The "release" happens just as "State of the Game" is airing. Here is what really happened. Idra got knocked out in the RO32 and realized the competition in the "Challenger League" would be stiff. He had been thinking of retiring from competitive gaming for at least a year. So EG, looking for as much publicity as possible cooked up this entire "episode". Idra took a few final shots, knowing full well what would happen. Then Idra gets to make his big "i quit" announcement with the whole world tuning in. All we need now is Bret Hart submitting to s SHawn Michael's Sharpshooter in the centre of the ring in Montreal to complete this story. Btw, who was responsible for 9/11? i think it was a conspiracy between about 40 people that included 17 suicide bombers. However, the exact details are not completely known. | ||
CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
May 13 2013 19:42 GMT
#4729
On May 14 2013 04:30 TrickyGilligan wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't. yea im really kinda judging you for not paying attention.................... .............................. | ||
habeck
1120 Posts
May 13 2013 19:45 GMT
#4730
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
May 13 2013 19:45 GMT
#4731
On May 14 2013 04:42 CeriseCherries wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:30 TrickyGilligan wrote: On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't. yea im really kinda judging you for not paying attention.................... .............................. It was an honest question. Given how heated this thread is I think I'll just back away slowly... | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2013 19:45 GMT
#4732
On May 14 2013 04:37 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? The definition of "physical exertion" is a broad one, but I would say that you are exerting your self when golfing or playing darts. Intense thought and focus can cause fatigue and tire a person out. You don't need to be in a flop sweat and chugging gator-aid before what you are doing is considered a sport. | ||
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
May 13 2013 19:46 GMT
#4733
On May 14 2013 04:30 TrickyGilligan wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't. I laughed. And yeah, IdrA used to be a skinny white nerd. Now he's all hot and buff. | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
May 13 2013 19:50 GMT
#4734
On May 14 2013 04:45 Shady Sands wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:42 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:30 TrickyGilligan wrote: On May 14 2013 04:28 Shady Sands wrote: On May 14 2013 04:13 CeriseCherries wrote: On May 14 2013 04:02 Doodsmack wrote: Haie guyz if we get more skinny white nerds typing insults into their keyboard we'll attract more viewers kakaka IdrA is pretty jacked for a "skinny white nerd", haven't you seen him? You pay attention to the physiques of eSports players? Honestly in this community, it's weirder that you don't. yea im really kinda judging you for not paying attention.................... .............................. It was an honest question. Given how heated this thread is I think I'll just back away slowly... don't be such a homophobe ![]() | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2013 19:52 GMT
#4735
On May 14 2013 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this whole "release" is contrived. Geoff Robinson is hte captain of the team and is not informed of it? He finds out during a talk show? LOL Geoff's "stunned reaction" was great. Give the man an Oscar. The "release" happens just as "State of the Game" is airing. Here is what really happened. Idra got knocked out in the RO32 and realized the competition in the "Challenger League" would be stiff. He had been thinking of retiring from competitive gaming for at least a year. So EG, looking for as much publicity as possible cooked up this entire "episode". Idra took a few final shots, knowing full well what would happen. Then Idra gets to make his big "i quit" announcement with the whole world tuning in. All we need now is Bret Hart submitting to s SHawn Michael's Sharpshooter in the centre of the ring in Montreal to complete this story. My name is PlanSix and this is my favorite post on the Citadel...I mean Team Liquid. JimmyJRaynor never fails to impress with the level of non-sense he believes is going on. When the real answer could simply be that firing people is not fun and EG just went: “I don’t want to wait. Lets just get this over with and move on. We will tell the players afterwards, but lets get this over with.” | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
May 13 2013 19:54 GMT
#4736
On May 14 2013 04:52 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this whole "release" is contrived. Geoff Robinson is hte captain of the team and is not informed of it? He finds out during a talk show? LOL Geoff's "stunned reaction" was great. Give the man an Oscar. The "release" happens just as "State of the Game" is airing. Here is what really happened. Idra got knocked out in the RO32 and realized the competition in the "Challenger League" would be stiff. He had been thinking of retiring from competitive gaming for at least a year. So EG, looking for as much publicity as possible cooked up this entire "episode". Idra took a few final shots, knowing full well what would happen. Then Idra gets to make his big "i quit" announcement with the whole world tuning in. All we need now is Bret Hart submitting to s SHawn Michael's Sharpshooter in the centre of the ring in Montreal to complete this story. My name is PlanSix and this is my favorite post on the Citadel...I mean Team Liquid. JimmyJRaynor never fails to impress with the level of non-sense he believes is going on. When the real answer could simply be that firing people is not fun and EG just went: “I don’t want to wait. Lets just get this over with and move on. We will tell the players afterwards, but lets get this over with.” or we could just point out that his time line of events isnt correct. On May 14 2013 04:45 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 04:37 turdburgler wrote: On May 14 2013 03:42 JackDragon wrote: On May 14 2013 03:35 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 03:11 SCST wrote: On May 14 2013 02:50 Fat_Elephant wrote: On May 14 2013 02:25 LingBlingBling wrote: On May 14 2013 02:16 Leporello wrote: SC2 is not a sport. This is why I don't like the term "e-sports". It's a game. Comparing it to WWE/professional wrestling? That's just wrong on several levels. It's a game. Compare it to chess, we should compare it to chess, not professional wrestling. We don't need stupid drama and fake animosity from our "athletes" in order to make matches intriguing and entertaining. These aren't athletes, they're gamers. They're not tough, rather, they're smart. That's something we appreciate, which is why we watch SC2, instead of sports. And Muhammed Ali was clever. He'd rhyme and banter in a way that was obviously for pure showmanship -- which is much different than raging at some random stranger in a videogame that IdrA is laddering against. Don't compare IdrA to Muhammed Ali. Compare IdrA to Mike Tyson -- the man who wants to eat his competitor's babies and will chomp on their ears if he thinks his opponent is imba. Boxing's reputation suffered from Mike Tyson's disgusting behavior. SC2's reputation will suffer if we put our most toxic players on pedestals, which we did quite well with IdrA. ....... Baseball is a game to, it is also a sport. You should prob take the time to look up the word sport and understand what it means. Sc2 is a sport. You can make a living off it, there is a a insane competitive cult following played at a high lvl "sport" An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. Sure does seem like sc2 follows the meaning of the word "sport" sigh. Football is more fake to me, then sc2, football is more about marketing then skill, (I mean American football no soccer) Football has more actors/story lines/advertisements/marketing then sc2. Sc2 is just like Athletic sports. Are you serious? You bid for the idea StarCraft is a sport, look up its definition which contradicts it, then say plainly it follows that definition? Yikes. Starcraft requires physical exertion. Chess was classified as an sport by the Olympic Committee in 1999. Watching TV requires physical exertion. It is a sport. No need to be a bad troll. You missed the part about competing. Competing AND physical exertion make a sport. so darts isnt a sport? what about golf? The definition of "physical exertion" is a broad one, but I would say that you are exerting your self when golfing or playing darts. Intense thought and focus can cause fatigue and tire a person out. You don't need to be in a flop sweat and chugging gator-aid before what you are doing is considered a sport. so now we are back starcraft being a sport ;D | ||
yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
May 13 2013 19:55 GMT
#4737
On May 13 2013 20:46 levelping wrote: Show nested quote + On May 13 2013 20:41 yeeshdontjudgeme wrote: You guys keep proving my point again and again. You don't care about his achievements you just care about his fucking personality. You proved it when you talked about fucking BoxeR and NaDa. You guys said you won't respect THEM anymore if they start being like IdrA. This community makes absolutely no sense anymore. Hell, right now, half of you are NaNiwa fanboys but as soon as he starts trash talking, everyone becomes a critic. Get some fucking lives. We're watching people COMPETE in video games. We're not watching soap operas. Last time I checked Michael Jordan talked trash 24/7 during his prime. Last time I checked, people still respected him. Let's not kid ourselves... Idra may have made some contributions to the bw scene but comparing him to the likes of boxer, nada, and Michael Jordan... You missed the point. Badly. Please | ||
Mohdoo
United States15382 Posts
May 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#4738
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GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
May 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#4739
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16367 Posts
May 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#4740
On May 14 2013 04:52 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On May 14 2013 02:41 JimmyJRaynor wrote: this whole "release" is contrived. Geoff Robinson is hte captain of the team and is not informed of it? He finds out during a talk show? LOL Geoff's "stunned reaction" was great. Give the man an Oscar. The "release" happens just as "State of the Game" is airing. Here is what really happened. Idra got knocked out in the RO32 and realized the competition in the "Challenger League" would be stiff. He had been thinking of retiring from competitive gaming for at least a year. So EG, looking for as much publicity as possible cooked up this entire "episode". Idra took a few final shots, knowing full well what would happen. Then Idra gets to make his big "i quit" announcement with the whole world tuning in. All we need now is Bret Hart submitting to s SHawn Michael's Sharpshooter in the centre of the ring in Montreal to complete this story. My name is PlanSix and this is my favorite post on the Citadel...I mean Team Liquid. JimmyJRaynor never fails to impress with the level of non-sense he believes is going on. When the real answer could simply be that firing people is not fun and EG just went: “I don’t want to wait. Lets just get this over with and move on. We will tell the players afterwards, but lets get this over with.” EG finds guys like you easy to fool. Of course, this active debate only proves their methods are working well. | ||
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