EPTOn May 12 2013 07:44 Nachtwind wrote:
i think he´s right about this community
i think he´s right about this community
People are idiots.
And idiots seem to congregate around the loudest idiot.
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
People are idiots. And idiots seem to congregate around the loudest idiot. | ||
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Toosneaky
United States114 Posts
On May 12 2013 07:52 Maloreon wrote: As much as it might hurt or offend people I think Idra is right as well. I watched the community devolve into a mass of balance whiners too many times - literally ruining LR threads that could have been fun. I've also watched the community stalk, dehumanize, and devalue (spamming, booing, DDOS attacks, hatemail, hateposts, spam to sponsors, etc...) the pro-gamers that make this whole "esports" thing possible over the smallest stuff: probe rush into nerds typing walls of text describing what a horrible being someone is. I guess I'm more laid back when it comes to some but I have to wonder about the happiness and personal lives of people who get that worked up over a video game they are watching someone else play - or getting worked up over the actions of a professional gamer who they have never met whose actions basically don't impact them at all. Yes, I understand you believe you are the one true defender of esports and that the only way for it to advance is if "pro gamer X" dies in a literal fire.... lol. I don't even understand why people would be offended at all by Idra's post on TL that has been quoted so many times (the "you are a bunch of f***ers" one) - I though it was funny. It's almost ironic that the point he was making (at least imo) lead the exact same people he was calling out to go on a witch hunt. Thing is too, I'm a pretty sensitive person in real life but I just can't get worked up by that no matter how hard I try. Do you and everyone else with this opinion live in a bubble? EVERY community becomes like this when it becomes large. The whiners will always voice their opinion. Unless you only play starcraft 2, I have a hard time believing you think it only applies to starcraft. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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Youtakenocandle
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Idra is a good example why it's hard to take esports seriously. In real sports a rude, immature manchild would not be 'famous'. Especially not if his talent and results aren't anything special. But the exact same thing happens in a lot of sports. Specially when in most sports there is a lot of more players and a lot more not-that-good-compared-to-the-best players that get visibility because sports have more regional fanbases. On May 12 2013 08:19 SnipedSoul wrote: The communities for regular sports are just as bad if not worse, imo. So many people constantly bitch and moan every time a referee makes a call against their team. Hell, football (soccer) fans will even start riots. Thanks for precise perspective. On May 12 2013 08:18 Vorenius wrote: People are idiots. And idiots seem to congregate around the loudest idiot. Wow, ain't the world simple. Where is Combatex fanbase? | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 12 2013 06:51 Defacer wrote: Nah. If you listen to Incontrol's explanation EG didn't have much of a choice. IdrA put Alex in a situation where he essentially had to chose between IdrA or the sponsors that support the entire team. At first I was like "what? why would sponsors even care about angry fans?". But from the perspective of a sponsor it looks rather nasty. Imagine you are one. You have an ordinary day and then letters start streaming in with the content like: "hi. You know that EG team you are sponsoring? Well, I guess I'll boycott your products because of that. You wonna know why? Because they have this charming guy who calls himself Idra and he has called me and all my friends "fucks" on a forum and said you are paying him to treat us like that. Good bye." So they must be thinking if there are 100 letters like that there are probably 9900 more people who feel that way but just didn't bother emailing. Not only it decreases the effectiveness of sponsorship, it can actually outweigh the benefits. E-sports depend on the ordinary businesses for sponsorship money. And ordinary business will never forgive behavior like that. This should be a lesson to all of e-sports: learn to behave. | ||
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Pittski
United States50 Posts
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Yergidy
United States2107 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:27 Alpino wrote: But the exact same thing happens in a lot of sports. Specially when in most sports there is a lot of more players and a lot more not-that-good-compared-to-the-best players that get visibility because sports have more regional fanbases. Thanks for precise perspective. Wow, ain't the world simple. Where is Combatex fanbase? I agree, Terrel Owens comes to mind first from football. If you guys don't know him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrel_Owens sounds kinda like idra no? | ||
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Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:30 Pittski wrote: 13k Veiwers won't last. The only reason it was that high is because everyone wanted to see how he is reacting to being released. Most people didn't expect him to even stream. after couple weeks when things settle down his stream count will go back to normal with maybe a a couple hundred or so more people viewing. Back to normal with couple hundred more or so, if he does commentary, is pretty much 10k. You guys are funny. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Idra is a good example why it's hard to take esports seriously. In real sports a rude, immature manchild would not be 'famous'. Especially not if his talent and results aren't anything special. You must not watch many sports, if any. Or you're blind. | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:34 Xalorian wrote: Back to normal with couple hundred more or so, if he does commentary, is pretty much 10k. You guys are funny. Reading is hard | ||
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RogerChillingworth
2833 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:34 Xalorian wrote: Back to normal with couple hundred more or so, if he does commentary, is pretty much 10k. You guys are funny. he's been at 3-5k for a while now. | ||
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Oakenshield
United States347 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Idra is a good example why it's hard to take esports seriously. In real sports a rude, immature manchild would not be 'famous'. Especially not if his talent and results aren't anything special. I think it does happen to real sports in it's way. Look at women's tennis. There have been lots of "stars" with mediocre results who were famous and made good ads money because of looks, reputation and stuff. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:30 Pittski wrote: 13k Veiwers won't last. The only reason it was that high is because everyone wanted to see how he is reacting to being released. Most people didn't expect him to even stream. after couple weeks when things settle down his stream count will go back to normal with maybe a a couple hundred or so more people viewing. The guy isn't even T10 NA and he gets more viewers than anyone else. He shits 8k on a slow day. "Couple hundred" is normal. lmao | ||
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Artifex
Belgium189 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:25 Youtakenocandle wrote: Idra is a good example why it's hard to take esports seriously. In real sports a rude, immature manchild would not be 'famous'. Especially not if his talent and results aren't anything special. Well we do have a certain Justin Bieber being pretty famous right now... | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:39 Artifex wrote: Well we do have a certain Justin Bieber being pretty famous right now... lol. Idra is Justin Bieber of esports or what? | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:37 Oakenshield wrote: You can't compare an angry video gamer with TO. Idra is a great SC2 player but he doesn't have the same kind of financial hold on the industry as an NFL pro. EG can easily survive without Idra, where as the NFL really needs a few loud mouths to sell jerseys and tickets to a certain demographic. The best players in sports don't necessarily have much of a financial hold as well. You forget that there are other good players alongside the 'best' players in other sports. NFL teams can easily survive without a popular player or two, especially since NFL is the most watched sport in the United States. | ||
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Artifex
Belgium189 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:40 Cheerio wrote: lol. Idra is Justin Bieber of esports or what? I didn't say that - but you can see the similarities tbh. | ||
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yeeshdontjudgeme
146 Posts
On May 12 2013 08:40 Cheerio wrote: lol. Idra is Justin Bieber of esports or what? You can tell by his largely feminine fanbase. | ||
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