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petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 09 2013 08:05 GMT
#1
https://vimeo.com/65730006
Hi all,

This is a short documentary we made on our first school year with no money and too little time. Hope you guys enjoy it and maybe even link it to your friends who know nothing about ESPORTS. This was made to help those people understand what and why we love this thing. Hope you enjoy it.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
May 09 2013 08:14 GMT
#2
Always liked Naama as a player, he's definitely not afraid to challenge the meta. Look forward to checking this out since we haven't heard much from him lately
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 08:24:55
May 09 2013 08:24 GMT
#3
Hey there!

Well, I just watched it. Give it a try guys, it's worth it.

So, the simple fact that I watched it whole necessarily means that I appreciated it at least a bit. First of all, I liked the insights on a progamer I am not entirely familiar with. Some good shots, and nice commentaries.

However, it is much easier for me to point out things I didn't like, so excuse me if I go an a rant =)

First of all, I felt that the whole documentary lacked... direction. What are you trying to get to? What's the storyline? That was my main gripe. Then, who is this guy who makes most of the talk? Just a fan? You? Your prof? You could display it somewhere.
There are also some tiny details. Who was that top terran (Liquipedia suggests it was TOP)? Perhaps you could have chosen to show the winning moment when TOP taps out. Why is everything subbed except during the fight against Welmu? You could have subbed it too!

Transitions are not always smooth. When you go on the "losing" part, it was OK, you used one of Naama's loss. But the thing on how progamers are athletes just fell flat. Then the one where Naama says he's a good LAN player too.

But don't forget, I liked it!

My fav thing : Naama is not someone who washes the dishes!
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
May 09 2013 08:30 GMT
#4
Naama was slways one of my favorites to watch.
effecto
Profile Joined February 2011
France142 Posts
May 09 2013 08:35 GMT
#5
Naama stop getting sick in airplane hehe
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petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 09 2013 08:52 GMT
#6
On May 09 2013 17:24 fezvez wrote:
Hey there!

Well, I just watched it. Give it a try guys, it's worth it.

So, the simple fact that I watched it whole necessarily means that I appreciated it at least a bit. First of all, I liked the insights on a progamer I am not entirely familiar with. Some good shots, and nice commentaries.

However, it is much easier for me to point out things I didn't like, so excuse me if I go an a rant =)

First of all, I felt that the whole documentary lacked... direction. What are you trying to get to? What's the storyline? That was my main gripe. Then, who is this guy who makes most of the talk? Just a fan? You? Your prof? You could display it somewhere.
There are also some tiny details. Who was that top terran (Liquipedia suggests it was TOP)? Perhaps you could have chosen to show the winning moment when TOP taps out. Why is everything subbed except during the fight against Welmu? You could have subbed it too!

Transitions are not always smooth. When you go on the "losing" part, it was OK, you used one of Naama's loss. But the thing on how progamers are athletes just fell flat. Then the one where Naama says he's a good LAN player too.

But don't forget, I liked it!

My fav thing : Naama is not someone who washes the dishes!


Fair criticism, no hard feelings. The guy who does most of the talking is Teemu "wabbit" Hiilinen, a Finnish eSports veteran whose last job was chair of the Finnish eSports federation. That is written in the end credits. I thought about putting a introductionary graphic there, but decided against it.

The top terran he is talking about in the beginning is MVP. Naama won against him in Homestory Cup V. There is a short shot of MVP later in the movie that some fans might be able to connect to the beginning .

Not subbing the commentary in Finnish was also my decision. I thought it would be fun to just listening the commentary, it's not like there is any relevant information in there. Thanks for the comments!
Jusba
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland189 Posts
May 09 2013 08:53 GMT
#7
On May 09 2013 17:24 fezvez wrote:
Hey there!

Well, I just watched it. Give it a try guys, it's worth it.

So, the simple fact that I watched it whole necessarily means that I appreciated it at least a bit. First of all, I liked the insights on a progamer I am not entirely familiar with. Some good shots, and nice commentaries.

However, it is much easier for me to point out things I didn't like, so excuse me if I go an a rant =)

First of all, I felt that the whole documentary lacked... direction. What are you trying to get to? What's the storyline? That was my main gripe. Then, who is this guy who makes most of the talk? Just a fan? You? Your prof? You could display it somewhere.
There are also some tiny details. Who was that top terran (Liquipedia suggests it was TOP)? Perhaps you could have chosen to show the winning moment when TOP taps out. Why is everything subbed except during the fight against Welmu? You could have subbed it too!

Transitions are not always smooth. When you go on the "losing" part, it was OK, you used one of Naama's loss. But the thing on how progamers are athletes just fell flat. Then the one where Naama says he's a good LAN player too.

But don't forget, I liked it!

My fav thing : Naama is not someone who washes the dishes!

The other guy talking is Wabbit and its said in the end credits. Could have been said when he was first shown tho. Everybody knows him in the Finnish scene tho.

I really hoped the vid would of been longer so maybe there could have been a storyline. Like you said it was a bit lacking.
I enjoyed watching this tho .
NervO
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Netherlands511 Posts
May 09 2013 09:12 GMT
#8
I liked it, I must say I was thinking "who is this guy?" the whole time, but beside that it seems pretty good, I would have liked a shot from for example
to show how big gaming in Korea can be when he talks about korea ^_^
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petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 09 2013 09:17 GMT
#9
We would've loved to use a shot of a big crowd like that from Korea. But we wanted to do things the right way and get rights to use every footage that we use. I tried to contact GomTV, but still 3 months later haven't received a response from them.
Kaelaris
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom788 Posts
May 09 2013 09:21 GMT
#10
I need to come back to Finland sometime :<
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27253 Posts
May 09 2013 09:28 GMT
#11
Enjoyed it a lot. Also wish I'd managed to emigrate to Finland when I had the chance to, curses
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OOAK
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel53 Posts
May 09 2013 09:40 GMT
#12
Loved it, also reminded me of Naama and how much I loved him.
where is he now ? did he tried to qualify to WCS EU ?
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
May 09 2013 09:41 GMT
#13
I agree with fezvez. Very enjoyable for what it is, lots of room for improvement^^.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
May 09 2013 09:42 GMT
#14
Nice short sweet document.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
xzumiex
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium100 Posts
May 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#15
I enjoyed it, i thought finland had more pro-gamers?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 09:48:35
May 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#16
On May 09 2013 18:21 mouzKaelaris wrote:
I need to come back to Finland sometime :<

Should visit around the first weekend of August...
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 09 2013 09:55 GMT
#17
Very impressive! It's hard to imagine how you can make a product of this level of quality with little time and money! Thumbs up!
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
May 09 2013 09:56 GMT
#18
Nice short, gets to the point of being a pro player pretty well.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Impudity
Profile Joined September 2007
Finland25 Posts
May 09 2013 10:28 GMT
#19
Nice short film. I got hyped up about Naama again there. He's always been one of my favorite players to watch. He just seems unable to provide an uninteresting game to the viewers - whether it's some funky one-base-build or a hour long macro game against Ret with nukes and ravens - he's always a pleasure to watch.

I just wish he'd get back the motivation to perform, because talent he has aplenty, motivation he seems to currently lack.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 09 2013 10:49 GMT
#20
HAHA wabbit, that guy is so funny :D
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 09 2013 11:12 GMT
#21
A wild Bumblebonjwa appeared! :o
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 09 2013 13:36 GMT
#22
On May 09 2013 20:12 AlternativeEgo wrote:
A wild Bumblebonjwa appeared! :o

Yeah! I was surprised the first time I watched through the material. I didn't remember that he used to manage mouz.
Coledash
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland23 Posts
May 11 2013 18:51 GMT
#23
Awesome video! More pls
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 11 2013 18:57 GMT
#24
On May 09 2013 18:12 NerdFace wrote:
I liked it, I must say I was thinking "who is this guy?" the whole time, but beside that it seems pretty good, I would have liked a shot from for example http://youtu.be/0aw-42JO3qk to show how big gaming in Korea can be when he talks about korea ^_^


If you have to ask who naama is you obviously are not very into the scene.
Red and yellow are all I see
Tailss
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden233 Posts
May 11 2013 19:02 GMT
#25
I enjoyed the video. Really good job!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 11 2013 19:07 GMT
#26
Can't believe a sc2 documentary actually finished.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
May 11 2013 19:15 GMT
#27
Damn, I remember watching that Naama versus Mana Dreamhack finals. Seems like it was two eternities ago.
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 23:06:46
May 11 2013 22:58 GMT
#28
Naama one of the most entertaining sc2 players in the world to watch =) Always brings a fresh style to a tournament

Really enjoyed the video as well!
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petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 12 2013 15:43 GMT
#29
Thanks guys. I hope to do a longer more in-depth documentary on a professional gamer, but we're still a long way from that.
Gene(S)is
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden419 Posts
May 12 2013 15:49 GMT
#30
Who was the older guy with glasses? And the two players are Naama and Elfi right?

Nice wee movie btw.
For the swarm
petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 12 2013 17:54 GMT
#31
Older guy is Teemu "wabbit" Hiilinen. A veteran of eSports and previous chair of Finlands eSports federation. If you're talking about the two pro-players which wabbit mentions then yeah.
LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
May 12 2013 18:09 GMT
#32
god, ii love starcraft documentaries.
Known as Miso or LTY
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:42:28
May 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#33
This was really fucking good. My fav quotes.

"Bad losers don't make winners. you have to accept your mistakes... you also need fast fingers"

"The stress is extremely high. You need to be fit to make it."

"It's harder to become a pro gamer in Finland than an ice hokey player."
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 12 2013 19:46 GMT
#34
I vote the title be renamed to Naama: Keep on Chuggin'

Good short, was an entertaining watch, brought back good memories for sure.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#35
Will watch the entire video when I get the chance. Ever since Naama won Dreamhack Winter 2010 I liked him a lot as a player, who was really good at the start of SC2. Haven't seem him competing anymore lately. Is he perhaps making a comeback?
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petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 13 2013 06:32 GMT
#36
Naama is still playing. I'll link this thread to him and maybe he will stop by and write something to you guys.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
May 13 2013 06:47 GMT
#37
First a saw the thread, I thought it was " Naama, a finished Starcraft 2 player"...
But I really like the video thanksk!
It's good to be back
Draksunen
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland11 Posts
May 13 2013 16:08 GMT
#38
"Santeri “Naama” Lahtinen is one of the two professional eAthletes in Finland."
I think there is few more than two.

-elfi
-Welmu
-Protosser
-Satiini
-Cyanide from team Fnatic @ lol

petu
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland81 Posts
May 13 2013 16:23 GMT
#39
Welmu and Protosser are still in school, don't know about Satiini or Cyanide. But there are Jerax and Trixi from Dota 2 who might have turned pro after the interview was shot.
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
May 13 2013 16:43 GMT
#40
On May 09 2013 18:17 petu wrote:
We would've loved to use a shot of a big crowd like that from Korea. But we wanted to do things the right way and get rights to use every footage that we use. I tried to contact GomTV, but still 3 months later haven't received a response from them.


Can't u just use a video and make a little text in corner that your source is youtube? or i that only possible to ppl who filmed their private video and posted it.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
May 13 2013 16:56 GMT
#41
I really liked the video. Naama is a fun character and a very entertaining player. Only small complaint I had on the video is already mentioned. You should have had a nameplate with a short discription of who he is to introduce "wabbit".
Dooba
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Croatia588 Posts
May 21 2013 16:02 GMT
#42
Just watched it, like it a lot. Well made. Just introduce the people talking, the rest was fine.
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