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On May 02 2013 14:04 asdfou420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sick attitude there mewbert, for those who don't know he avatars as G-Dragon. If that's him then lol x 10 I really liked clarity but I can't support them when they have such a player on their team.
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On May 02 2013 14:04 asdfou420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sick attitude there mewbert, for those who don't know he avatars as G-Dragon. Anyone can post on 4chan with a name, you just do name#password in the name field. I can go post as "SKT1 !rainXDWMpY" but that doesn't mean it's actually Rain posting.
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On May 02 2013 14:13 Pisko. wrote:Anyone can post on 4chan with a name, you just do name#password in the name field. I can go post as "SKT1 !rainXDWMpY" but that doesn't mean it's actually Rain posting. Too bad hes the only one who posts GD and everyone who isnt new would know that. check and + Show Spoiler +
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On May 02 2013 14:14 TheHansBecker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:09 WinterTV wrote: Also, please keep in mind that there have been many worse things done by players of other organizations in the past and that this is, simply, the witch-hunt du jour. Ah... so your standard for judging your OWN player's behavior/conduct is based on "the worse things done by other players in the past..." Great "standards" for a new team.
So their owner is now taking the "well he did it first/he did it too" argument? This is fabulous
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Mewbert pisses me off so much, but I really hope he has changed. I wish both his and Clarity the best of luck and hopefully Mewbert can prove us all wrong that he has indeed changed. I do kind of feel bad for Clarity for having to go through all this so soon...but hey if it works out in the end, then it works out. GL!
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I bet most of the hate in this thread is coming from the twitter account (which apparently isn't his).
The fact that the twitter account was active recently means nothing other than that that person really wants to get mewby kicked from Clarity.
Obviously what he said to Incontrol was bad, but the community reaction (if they all were only talking about the video, which they aren't) is over the top.
On May 02 2013 14:17 bennyboy9201 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:14 TheHansBecker wrote:On May 02 2013 14:09 WinterTV wrote: Also, please keep in mind that there have been many worse things done by players of other organizations in the past and that this is, simply, the witch-hunt du jour. Ah... so your standard for judging your OWN player's behavior/conduct is based on "the worse things done by other players in the past..." Great "standards" for a new team. So their owner is now taking the "well he did it first/he did it too" argument? This is fabulous
It's funny how people like to point this argument and say "see look at this flawed argument, /raise monocle" without ever saying what is wrong with it. As a new organization, there is nothing wrong with looking at many past organizations and taking similar actions for similar levels of player issues.
In fact, I'd say they were stupid if they didn't look at past precedents in the community and instead just kicked him immediately on the first complaint.
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Man, they're all so young o.o
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On May 02 2013 14:09 WinterTV wrote: Furthermore, please keep in mind that Clarity Gaming is monitoring this situation very carefully. We care very deeply about all of our fans as well as those who provide constructive criticism. Every single post here is being read and discussed by our staff because we believe that feedback from the community is of the utmost importance. We do this because we believe that it is our duty for progressing the industry. We could, as some other professional organizations do, ignore all the negative feedback and brand it as simply white noise but that is not our way.
On May 02 2013 13:33 Vogue wrote: Beyond 'second chances' and 'similar behavior from other players,' Mewbert has come a long way since that video was first made. He was around mid-high masters when he had that conversation with iNcontroL and, yeah, some of the stuff he said was pretty rude. But the take-away I got from that debate was iNcontroL telling Mewbert to fuck off, the world is unfair, and that he works 'really hard.' So what happens next? Mewbert ladders his fucking ass off and gets to top 50 GM (HIGHER THAN INCONTROL) in six months. This is a guy that was platinum league in early 2011.
Instead of looking at this as a source to condemn Mewbert's BM, I choose to look at it as proof of Mewbert's determination. I honestly cannot wait for the day when Mewbert matches iNcontroL in a tournament and 2-0's him. Maybe it'll show who's actually "working really hard."
Since you said the management will read the thread, just thought I'd chime in and say that I along with many others will be following his career with considerable interest. In a positive way.
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On May 02 2013 14:05 chadissilent wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 11:45 -Kyo- wrote:I fear I'm going to lose my ability to report people. If you have not read the thread I suggest you do so before reposting the same garbage, or jumping on the hate bandwagon. It's honestly a burden to people who like to conserve brain power to continually have to read the same post by different people, even those with significant post counts, that say the exact same thing that has been refuted, denied, or closed on a previous page. If you read a couple pages in why not finish it off before immediately posting and assuming your hate is needed on this issue? Keep in mind: The point of this thread is to congratulate the CG academy for their final roster. If you /really/ think there is an issue with a specific player you should honestly just talk to the management of CG instead of being like 'WELL YOU GOT THIS GUY, SO SCREW YOUR WHOLE TEAM!' TL posters used to be beyond this sort of stuff but the influx of these types of posts is depressing. Moreover, to complain one day about people killing e-sports and then posting like this is incredibly hypocritical. Funny people look past the cool coverage and importance CG is putting on their academy roster, even helping host a tournament, and instead choose to post on such things they have no internal knowledge of. Think before you post + Show Spoiler +I really wish I could moderate certain forums sometimes ;~; P.S: If you don't think they'll solve the problem if anything else like this happens in the future you'd have to be incredibly silly. It's ok Luke, stupid people are everywhere. By everywhere you mean on your team.
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On May 02 2013 14:11 Gorilla23 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 13:44 Polarexia wrote:On May 02 2013 13:08 -_- wrote:A little advice for Clarity Academy; double check whether Mewbert is actually GM. I watched his stream a couple of months ago and he was mid masters and, no offense, bad. Watch him play. Compare it with older reps, etc... I'm not accusing him of anything based on any solid, but if he's not cheating, he improved very fast, and at a rate he wasn't improving at before. If he's actually HOTS GM, serious congratulations. On May 02 2013 12:48 TheHansBecker wrote:On May 02 2013 12:42 playa wrote: Everyone has an opinion. That's true he didn't rape anyone... He'd be in prison for that. But, we also have opinions, just like he does and we can openly oppose his viewpoints and voice them in this public forum... Just like he attempted to voice his opinions that he thought InControl was a PoS... We are attempting to let this team know we will NOT support them UNTIL they get rid of this guy... We don't want him part of our community. I really find this sentiment funny. If you want, I can post sexist, misogynistic, homophobic remarks from just about every progamer from the BW era. And flames that would make Mewbert blush. TL.net, WGT, Team Canada, even Battle.net forums. Do you want them gone too? I can confirm he's legitimately GM. He often streams his games and plays in a few tournaments and showmatches as well. As for all the other accusations, Mewbert's matured quite a bit since all his alleged BM "Alleged." You make me laugh. There's plenty of proof how BM he has been.
Well there's a lot of misinformation going around on what he did and didn't do. The obvious things such as the video of him talking to Incontrol I'm not denying. But things like him posting on 4chan with "mewbert !6X4GA0MgZA" as the name and other things like that definitely weren't him.
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On May 02 2013 14:16 asdfou420 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:13 Pisko. wrote:On May 02 2013 14:04 asdfou420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sick attitude there mewbert, for those who don't know he avatars as G-Dragon. Anyone can post on 4chan with a name, you just do name#password in the name field. I can go post as "SKT1 !rainXDWMpY" but that doesn't mean it's actually Rain posting. Too bad hes the only one who posts GD and everyone who isnt new would know that. check and + Show Spoiler + It's not hard to look up a picture of GDragon and type mewbert#password along with some edgy comment.
Also if you Google the name/trip used only
http://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/4567042/ http://chanarchive.org/4chan/fit/49123/13192213#p13198075
comes up, because mewby always posts anonymously without a name.
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GL to everyone involved.
As for the mewby thing... meh. If he actually hasn't changed then he probably won't last long, and if he has changed than I can't see any problem with letting him stay on a team. Either way I hope to see Clarity Gaming succeed at establishing themselves. Always nice to see more NA teams.
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I'll make one final post in this thread before we go back to congratulating the chosen applicants.
On May 02 2013 14:14 TheHansBecker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:09 WinterTV wrote: Also, please keep in mind that there have been many worse things done by players of other organizations in the past and that this is, simply, the witch-hunt du jour. Ah... so your standard for judging your OWN player's behavior/conduct is based on "the worse things done by other players in the past..." Great "standards" for a new team. I would like to commend you for committing to this witch hunt like this person personally insulted your mother. Give us a chance to work with him, much like we worked with Shuttle who apparently "bounced around teams and was a horrible teammate." Our scouting staff is some of the best out there, if things work out poorly and he represents us in a negative manner then feel free to bash us as much as you'd like. If you can build up a solid case of things he's done poorly to represent us in a negative light SINCE JOINING CLARITY, then please present your case and we would have no issue with reviewing it and taking the proper course of action. Also, I don't take anonymous message board posts or fake twitter accounts to be solid evidence without proper supporting documentation.
Until then, we ask you to trust in our decision.
On May 02 2013 14:17 bennyboy9201 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:14 TheHansBecker wrote:On May 02 2013 14:09 WinterTV wrote: Also, please keep in mind that there have been many worse things done by players of other organizations in the past and that this is, simply, the witch-hunt du jour. Ah... so your standard for judging your OWN player's behavior/conduct is based on "the worse things done by other players in the past..." Great "standards" for a new team. So their owner is now taking the "well he did it first/he did it too" argument? This is fabulous That's a negative. WinteR is simply explaining that many of your fan favorites have troubled pasts as well but were able to prove themselves with second chances. He and I were around in the early BW days, where we have seen many influential people in their younger years. Let's just say they were nothing close to what they are now.
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On May 02 2013 14:25 Pisko. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:16 asdfou420 wrote:On May 02 2013 14:13 Pisko. wrote:On May 02 2013 14:04 asdfou420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sick attitude there mewbert, for those who don't know he avatars as G-Dragon. Anyone can post on 4chan with a name, you just do name#password in the name field. I can go post as "SKT1 !rainXDWMpY" but that doesn't mean it's actually Rain posting. Too bad hes the only one who posts GD and everyone who isnt new would know that. check and + Show Spoiler + It's not hard to look up a picture of GDragon and type mewbert#password along with some edgy comment. Also if you Google the name/trip used only http://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/4567042/http://chanarchive.org/4chan/fit/49123/13192213#p13198075comes up, because mewby always posts anonymously without a name. Because two same people cant have the same trip right, keep the excuses coming
It would be nice if mewby would actually come into the thread and defend himself instead of having his couple drones like you do it for him, since he is online and reading the thread
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I don't usually post on TL, because I use the alternative starcraft communities more frequently, but I feel like it needs to be said here.
Mewbert is a hard-working player. I remember back in 2012 in /scv/ Mewby was the only person we could really rally behind. He streamed for us and ground out games to improve himself as a player. Yes he's a BM, but could you honestly find someone who isn't? And most of his hate is spawned from being in an edgy club like /scv/. Keep him around, see how it goes, but tell him to shape up.
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Mystery and Bails are good players, glad to see them on a team
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hey, good luck to clarity gaming, great to see new teams with young players pop up.
i feel like this mewbert thing isn't gonna end well though. since he has matured, maybe he'd care to apologize or acknowledge that the things he said to incontrol were rude and unjustified? i feel like that'd help a little.
i really hope you guys will do well, but i'm not gonna support mewbert if he still acts the same way he did when that video was recorded. "others did worse" is not an argument you should be using i think, because others already have a fan base and can afford to do questionable things. sounds dumb, but eh. you're the new guys, and you'll have to act your absolute best to accumulate a fan base. inside the game as well as outside the game.
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On May 02 2013 14:29 asdfou420 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 14:25 Pisko. wrote:On May 02 2013 14:16 asdfou420 wrote:On May 02 2013 14:13 Pisko. wrote:On May 02 2013 14:04 asdfou420 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Sick attitude there mewbert, for those who don't know he avatars as G-Dragon. Anyone can post on 4chan with a name, you just do name#password in the name field. I can go post as "SKT1 !rainXDWMpY" but that doesn't mean it's actually Rain posting. Too bad hes the only one who posts GD and everyone who isnt new would know that. check and + Show Spoiler + It's not hard to look up a picture of GDragon and type mewbert#password along with some edgy comment. Also if you Google the name/trip used only http://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/4567042/http://chanarchive.org/4chan/fit/49123/13192213#p13198075comes up, because mewby always posts anonymously without a name. Because two same people cant have the same trip right, keep the excuses coming It would be nice if mewby would actually come into the thread and defend himself instead of having his couple drones like you do it for him, since he is online and reading the thread I never implied that two people couldn't have the same password. I posted those links to show those were the only other posts with that same trip, and they were from mid-2012. He's an active poster who always posts as Anonymous, if that was him why would there only be 3 posts in an entire year?
Also calling his fans "drones" for defending him might have revealed the real reason why you're slandering him. Could it be you're jealous of his success?
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