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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:31 Qwyn wrote: That's a good point, lol. It's weird thinking about the two as related like that. Protoss needs that buff and overall better statistics for tier 1 units. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:18 Zenbrez wrote: It blows my mind what terrans think of the warp prism buff, because everything they say is the exact thing z and p have to put up with with speedivacs. This is especially funny because stimmed marines are a) Faster than stalkers b) More useful later in the game (too many stalkers usually = death, because stalker suck for cost), and c) Can kill the warp prims much faster Not to mention warp prisms don't get to drop anything as dangerous and cheap as marines, hellbats, hellions, marauders or widow mines. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:42 althaz wrote: This is especially funny because stimmed marines are a) Faster than stalkers b) More useful later in the game (too many stalkers usually = death, because stalker suck for cost), and c) Can kill the warp prims much faster Not to mention warp prisms don't get to drop anything as dangerous and cheap as marines, hellbats, hellions, marauders or widow mines. Imagine Protoss got a tier 1 flying unit? A new scout perhaps... Or a biological ranged unit with high burst damage with slow attack. A new dragoon perhaps... | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:47 Alabasern wrote: Imagine Protoss got a tier 1 flying unit? A new scout perhaps... Or a biological ranged unit with high burst damage with slow attack. A new dragoon perhaps... that's just about the same as the immortal... | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:47 gobbledydook wrote: that's just about the same as the immortal... I should restate, a tier 1 biological unit, that is burst DPS, can attack ground or air, and is made from gateways. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:18 Zenbrez wrote: It blows my mind what terrans think of the warp prism buff, because everything they say is the exact thing z and p have to put up with with speedivacs. You can't really compare warp prisms and speedivacs in a vacuum. Terran relies on dealing damage with drops and multi-pronged aggression, that's their whole shtick since they need to have an advantage to stay equal in the lategame. Imagine prisms having equal harass potential as medivacs, a terran would still never think "I'm gonna defend this warp prism aggression, get 3 bases and all my tech without taking too much damage and then I'll be ahead". This is standard protoss play but for terran it just doesn't work. | ||
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
<3. Good stuff. | ||
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albis
United States652 Posts
might be a nice way to add some fun. could just be a small challenge of the day. quick resume from replay showmatch. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On June 12 2013 12:53 Bagi wrote: You can't really compare warp prisms and speedivacs in a vacuum. Terran relies on dealing damage with drops and multi-pronged aggression, that's their whole shtick since they need to have an advantage to stay equal in the lategame. Imagine prisms having equal harass potential as medivacs, a terran would still never think "I'm gonna defend this warp prism aggression, get 3 bases and all my tech without taking too much damage and then I'll be ahead". This is standard protoss play but for terran it just doesn't work. Thank you. I'm tired of these complaints about the Medivac and people acting like Terrans are hypocrites for complaining about free speed for warp prisms. I'd add that P and Z also got Queens and Mothership cores. Even Artosis said that Z and P deal with Hellbat drops better, to which I'd point out that early speed prisms are also going to be dealt with better by Z and P. They seemed to almost get around to the possibility of hellbats 3 shotting scvs but still 2-shotting other races' workers before the blue flame upgrade, but I'd take them 3 shotting all workers over the current situation, yet at they pointed out, balance tweaks can affect all match ups. For that reason (plus the original reason of TvT having the hellbat problem), having hellbats 3 shot only scvs before blue flame seems a good starting point. | ||
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Partha
New Zealand163 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On June 12 2013 14:23 Partha wrote: Ugh please re consider theognis as a host. No offense but he is literally the most boring human being I have ever encountered in a media piece. Really, the most boring human ever >_>? Or is it because you know nothing about me? aka I'm relatively unknown.. | ||
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Partha
New Zealand163 Posts
On June 12 2013 14:40 ROOTheognis wrote: Really, the most boring human ever >_>? Or is it because you know nothing about me? aka I'm relatively unknown.. I am so so sorry for the strong language- but dude you literally talk in a single tone voice. For most people this is a huge turn off, try recording yourself on your phone and listen to yourself. I would recommend 30second bits. I've been following this scene for 2 years and I saw your games vs JD. The other episodes were ok cause you were balanced by Geoff/Greg (rofl) or Catz. But this episode it really showed  | ||
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RifleCow
Canada637 Posts
On June 12 2013 14:40 ROOTheognis wrote: Really, the most boring human ever >_>? Or is it because you know nothing about me? aka I'm relatively unknown.. "Literally" lol. Don't worry man, your pretty enlightening, and that's pretty much the aim of show. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On June 12 2013 14:46 Partha wrote: I am so so sorry for the strong language- but dude you literally talk in a single tone voice. For most people this is a huge turn off, try recording yourself on your phone and listen to yourself. I would recommend 30second bits. I've been following this scene for 2 years and I saw your games vs JD. The other episodes were ok cause you were balanced by Geoff/Greg (rofl) or Catz. But this episode it really showed Fair enough | ||
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Partha
New Zealand163 Posts
I dunno man maybe it was cause there wasn't a person like Geoff or Catz or Greg. But this episode was really hard to watch. I am one of those (stupid) people who are very sensitive about the voice/tone of the person on a show. And SelecT's accent+ Lack of these interesting character may have made me blame much of the episode's demise on you when this show should be purely about strategy. | ||
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Daswollvieh
5553 Posts
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r4sh4x
Germany11 Posts
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
Personally I watch this show to learn about starcraft. It's a show about starcraft after all. I don't care if the hosts are clowns or not as long as they provide top level analysis. Which theognis does. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On June 12 2013 17:18 nkr wrote: Personally I watch this show to learn about starcraft. It's a show about starcraft after all. I don't care if the hosts are clowns or not as long as they provide top level analysis. Which theognis does. but why can't they juggle torches and ride unicycles while they provide the top level analysis?? | ||
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