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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:41 JazzJackrabbit wrote: Artosis just said he has disagreements about the direction of where SOTG was going and wanted to do his own thing. *shrug* Lol, you actually buy that? Real talk translation of that is - SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!...and JP didn't show artosis enough of it, just like how incontrol left due to wanting to be paid more. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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larse
1611 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio/b/394804386?t=80m | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:51 vultdylan wrote: I find that looking back on the past few State of the Game's, a large portion of the shows were taken up by drama and tournament results and other news in the scene, which is similar to several shows out there, and frankly didn't even do the best job out of them all in my opinion. I did noticed that whenever the discussion regarding balance started, Artosis and Catz really molded well and held discussions for a while, leaving JP to occasionally interject. Moonglade and Theognis never really were able to get that much to say on State of the game when it was JP/Artosis/Catz/Moonglade or JP/Artosis/Theognis/Moonglade. This shows potential to be a really good strategy talk show that can aid players in getting better at the game and looking at different matchups with a new and high level perspective, instead of listening to the opinions of each host about drama that everyone watching had read on TL or Reddit, which was actually where JP was drawing all of his content from. The point of the show was exactly that. Getting great Starcraft personalities together to find out there opinions on the drama. | ||
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
its nice having 4 people that all live starcraft, everyday keep it up artosis | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
and Artosis saying that little thing at the end was such bs. doesn't like the way SotG is going? There has been more balance talk and gameplay talk on SotG this year than since the WoL beta. And JP has even been giving Artosis segments to run with the gameplay talk. | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:51 Hrrrrm wrote: It's just so extremely lazy. I had huge amounts of respect for Artosis. I've never been a huge fan of Tasteless because I always felt that he would phone it in a good chunk of the time(not a huge fan of the off-topic conversations during casts). Artosis would always be the one to steer things back towards the game and you could see he took it incredibly serious. With this move all that respect is literally out the window. I have no problem with him feeling that SoTG wasn't his thing and he wanted to go do his own. But to do what he did and literally just take the folks from SoTG(minus JP of course) and transplant them to Meta is absolutely horrible. Doesn't matter to me if JP is ok or not with it. ITG at least built it around their own hosts/guests. The same with Pulse. The same with 2GD. Yet this is literally a carbon copy. Artosis could've asked anyone and they more than likely would've shown up and yet he takes the laziest path. So much potential squandered because he decided to take the easy way while completely screwing someone else in the process. You gotta wonder what is going through his mind doing this. You gotta give some agency towards the guests. It's not like Catz, Moonglade, and Theognis are simply property Artosis stole. Most likely they wanted to do a show that was more inline with Artosis' vision than with JPs. If they didn't want to do it, they could have easily said no, but they have their own thoughts and most likely acted accordingly to them. | ||
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darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
No skype problems, webcams were crisp and clear, audio was perfect, overlays and transitions were good. I suspect you had someone in the background doing the camera work, I don't think Artosis was doing it himself. Honestly the only way to get the last .5 points would be to have a full studio like NASL Pulse. Content: 7/10 A little stale this week just because, well, everything had already been hashed out on every other show. There was nothing really new. I liked the actual strategy talk, I feel this is one area in which Artosis is obviously a superior host to JP. I think the potential is there to elevate the show back to a higher level in terms of gameplay discussion. Seems like the drama/news was glazed over a little bit. Hosts: 6/10 I don't mind anybody who was on the show, obviously, it was pretty much the standard neo-SOTG cast. The problem is that none of them are really electrifying personalities. Imagine the same show, but with Tasteless included. Or Incontrol. It was a little dry, lacking humor, but also really lacking flavour of any kind - Moonglade and TheOgnis are pretty neutral, bland dudes. With Artosis also made slightly bland (since he has to take the role of the host) that left only Catz to have any sort of personality at all! I don't know if the intention is to rotate the guests or what, I guess it largely depends if this was the death knell of SOTG or not. While I have no problem with any of the guests, I do certainly hope that exact configuration is not what we see every week, or that they grow some more chemistry as the whole show really did seem a little sterile and bland. overall: 22.5/30 its kind of weird how jp got thrown under the bus but I get the feeling he's been trying to get into the old boy's club for a long time and it just hasn't worked out for him. | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:54 jmbthirteen wrote: There has been more balance talk and gameplay talk on SotG this year than since the WoL beta. And JP has even been giving Artosis segments to run with the gameplay talk. This x 1000. Again, it seems like nobody has been watching SOTG since the beginning of the year. There has been a substantial amount of balance and metagame talk compared to last year. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
Artosis guest host to discuss his new show "Meta" Then the segment will be called: META META On April 24 2013 12:56 JazzJackrabbit wrote: This x 1000. Again, it seems like nobody has been watching SOTG since the beginning of the year. There has been a substantial amount of balance and metagame talk compared to last year. Maybe the direction part is related to seperating the strategy and making the focal part of the show away from news and drama in the community. The new SotG this year have been pretty short and the discussions more of statements and not active back and forth. Its entirely possible Artosis wants to bring back the back and forth about unit interactions and strategy from 2 years ago in early SotG history | ||
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gosuRabbit
United States15 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:54 mcleod wrote: prefer this show much more than the current SOTG its nice having 4 people that all live starcraft, everyday keep it up artosis ummmm you realize all 4 of those people were on SOTG. How can you prefer it over sotg? just b/c it doesn't have JP? cause that's all it's missing | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:51 vultdylan wrote: I find that looking back on the past few State of the Game's, a large portion of the shows were taken up by drama and tournament results and other news in the scene, which is similar to several shows out there, and frankly didn't even do the best job out of them all in my opinion. I did noticed that whenever the discussion regarding balance started, Artosis and Catz really molded well and held discussions for a while, leaving JP to occasionally interject. But.. that's exactly what happened on this show, except without the JP. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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evergreensc
United States268 Posts
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TDV
31 Posts
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
From what i see Artosis really enjoy talking about the game and everything, hes really passionnate. Maybe he just decided hey imma do my own show... who knows... | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:56 Dodgin wrote: You guys are way too serious about all this shit, just enjoy the content. Or, at the very worst, let all parties involved have their bit on how things transpired before the masses burn the perceived parties accountable at the stake. Please, people, let the dust settle before jumping to conclusions and judgements. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:57 j4vz wrote: We dont know what happened, maybe JP didnt want to continue to host SOTG, maybe the guest felt JP was a bit control freak, maybe its a money issue... From what i see Artosis really enjoy talking about the game and everything, hes really passionnate. Maybe he just decided hey imma do my own show... who knows... nope. dude is about to start putting out SotG merch. he clearly is very committed to the show. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 24 2013 12:55 Oiseaux wrote: You gotta give some agency towards the guests. It's not like Catz, Moonglade, and Theognis are simply property Artosis stole. Most likely they wanted to do a show that was more inline with Artosis' vision than with JPs. If they didn't want to do it, they could have easily said no, but they have their own thoughts and most likely acted accordingly to them. then they are dicks too. (unless of course jp gave the go-ahead.) the radio silence on this is weird--especially with all the backlash in this thread. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
Despite the minority of childish comments in this thread , you deserve props for sharing !  | ||
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