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Siw and Shuttle qualify from WCS EU Prelim #4 - Page 5

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bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
April 19 2013 07:40 GMT
#81
On April 19 2013 14:44 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 13:59 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I thought europe had a lot of good zergs.
I guess I was wrong
lolz

We did. When the game was better balanced


biggest troll post...

when was the game balanced.when broodfestor wrecked everything? i see now!
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 19 2013 08:08 GMT
#82
On April 19 2013 16:37 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


GSL: Zerg won 6 matches, Terran won 6 matches.
Maps won is 13 for Zerg and 15 for Terran.

Seems like Life is not the only valid ZvT'er.

I was not implying there were balance issues.
Just that 2 of those either complained themselves (Scarlet) or have not done much yet in HoTS (Stephano)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 19 2013 08:11 GMT
#83
Congrats to Siw and shuttle I guess a Korean did manage to qualify haha :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 19 2013 08:11 GMT
#84
On April 19 2013 17:08 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 16:37 Deckkie wrote:
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


GSL: Zerg won 6 matches, Terran won 6 matches.
Maps won is 13 for Zerg and 15 for Terran.

Seems like Life is not the only valid ZvT'er.

I was not implying there were balance issues.
Just that 2 of those either complained themselves (Scarlet) or have not done much yet in HoTS (Stephano)


I see now. My bad.
Always look on the bright side of life
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 08:20:18
April 19 2013 08:11 GMT
#85
I'm really looking forward to the main event now. Has there already been a time announced, when the groups will be drawn?
(I hope they will be drawn live instead of a "Surprise! Here are the groups!" type of announcement, even if it's a small scale low production value improvised type of event)
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
April 19 2013 08:22 GMT
#86
On April 19 2013 17:08 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 16:37 Deckkie wrote:
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


GSL: Zerg won 6 matches, Terran won 6 matches.
Maps won is 13 for Zerg and 15 for Terran.

Seems like Life is not the only valid ZvT'er.

I was not implying there were balance issues.
Just that 2 of those either complained themselves (Scarlet) or have not done much yet in HoTS (Stephano)

soulkey is good at zvt :D
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Kaasstengel
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands15 Posts
April 19 2013 08:30 GMT
#87
I'm pretty surprised only 1 Korean qualified! .
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
April 19 2013 08:31 GMT
#88
I feel that sticking to this format (connecting GO4Sc2 with Qualis) to Challenger Qualis would be a great idea - 4 qualis (top 2 advance) + top 8 from points.

And no one important would miss upcoming season.
UF fight!
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 19 2013 08:33 GMT
#89
On April 19 2013 17:22 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 17:08 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 16:37 Deckkie wrote:
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


GSL: Zerg won 6 matches, Terran won 6 matches.
Maps won is 13 for Zerg and 15 for Terran.

Seems like Life is not the only valid ZvT'er.

I was not implying there were balance issues.
Just that 2 of those either complained themselves (Scarlet) or have not done much yet in HoTS (Stephano)

soulkey is good at zvt :D

Except when he needs to control infestors
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
April 19 2013 08:50 GMT
#90
zero zergs. eu zergs so imba
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
April 19 2013 08:50 GMT
#91
I'm a little surprised Xlord didn't make it. He seemed so strong a couple of months ago. Has he not been practising hots?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 19 2013 08:57 GMT
#92
On April 19 2013 17:50 d00p wrote:
I'm a little surprised Xlord didn't make it. He seemed so strong a couple of months ago. Has he not been practising hots?

He was really close to qualifying. He lost to Siw in the last round
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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
April 19 2013 09:10 GMT
#93
Are you guys stupid with the "no zerg" ? Is this whole thread just troll or you actually dont realise that every eu zerg has been invited ? Bly, Ret, Nerchio, Vortix, Slivko, Stephano, Dimaga, Sortof, Snute(NA)...
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
aTcho
Profile Joined May 2012
France18 Posts
April 19 2013 09:25 GMT
#94
People should stop complaining about the current balance of the game at such a high level.
But I am afraid it is true that zergs are having a rough time in the current state of the game and it seems slightly easier for the terran players now with the new units.
I know ladder does not prove anything at all - but as a protoss player things did not change that much -, but it looks like more and more WoL diamond terran players are making it to masters these days and that zerg are dropping to lower leagues because there is a massive abuse of the new units.
New units are significantly affecting the game and it is sad to see very good players losing to people considered to be inferiorsin terms of skills.
Just my pov.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 19 2013 09:29 GMT
#95
On April 19 2013 16:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Hilarious how pretty much the same zergs balance whine with impunity all over TL. The funny thing is, if you take out the Koreans, there are still more European zergs in the premier competition (9) than European terrans (8). Perhaps you should whine that Korean zergs are not participating in the European scene as much as the Korean terrans (oh, wait. There are also more Code S zerg (12) than terrans (11).)

This is where I need Incontrol for the voice-over: ''Now that zergs are not winning ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, the game is broken''.

Only because they were invited. We will see how it will all look after first season. Does anyone know if WCS EU follows same rule as Code S, as in only top 8 stay in Code S and rest need to battle it out with Challenger League players?
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 09:33:19
April 19 2013 09:31 GMT
#96
Sad to see no zerg making it the hard way.

Is there no "good" zerg around putting the effort in regarding this qualy?

On April 19 2013 18:10 Veriol wrote:
Are you guys stupid with the "no zerg" ? Is this whole thread just troll or you actually dont realise that every eu zerg has been invited ? Bly, Ret, Nerchio, Vortix, Slivko, Stephano, Dimaga, Sortof, Snute(NA)...


Yes invited, but still not a single Zerg making it "the hard way" that's the discussion iirc.
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 19 2013 09:37 GMT
#97
On April 19 2013 18:31 Lobbo wrote:
Sad to see no zerg making it the hard way.

Is there no "good" zerg around putting the effort in regarding this qualy?

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 18:10 Veriol wrote:
Are you guys stupid with the "no zerg" ? Is this whole thread just troll or you actually dont realise that every eu zerg has been invited ? Bly, Ret, Nerchio, Vortix, Slivko, Stephano, Dimaga, Sortof, Snute(NA)...


Yes invited, but still not a single Zerg making it "the hard way" that's the discussion iirc.


Not many top zergs left to be fair, except for LoWeLy, TargA and XiGua, JonnyREcco and perhaps Starbuck
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kickinhead
Profile Joined December 2008
Switzerland2069 Posts
April 19 2013 09:40 GMT
#98
Siw impressed me with his macro, especially in the first game against XLorD!
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 19 2013 09:45 GMT
#99
omg Siw is Владимир Сызранов
russian player O_o
why did i never hear about him?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 19 2013 09:47 GMT
#100
gratz for shuttle
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