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Siw and Shuttle qualify from WCS EU Prelim #4 - Page 6

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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 19 2013 09:47 GMT
#101
On April 19 2013 18:29 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 16:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Hilarious how pretty much the same zergs balance whine with impunity all over TL. The funny thing is, if you take out the Koreans, there are still more European zergs in the premier competition (9) than European terrans (8). Perhaps you should whine that Korean zergs are not participating in the European scene as much as the Korean terrans (oh, wait. There are also more Code S zerg (12) than terrans (11).)

This is where I need Incontrol for the voice-over: ''Now that zergs are not winning ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, the game is broken''.

Only because they were invited. We will see how it will all look after first season. Does anyone know if WCS EU follows same rule as Code S, as in only top 8 stay in Code S and rest need to battle it out with Challenger League players?


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9496789/WCS_2013_Format_Players_Prizes_and_Points-4_16_2013
Dvriel
Profile Joined November 2011
607 Posts
April 19 2013 09:49 GMT
#102
I was so impressed no Zerg quilified through the brackets!!! The issue is their ZvT.The new WM style.They are used to A-move into the Marine/Siege tank line and win trading units one after another.Now its impossible.Tanks are visible,mines not.You need Overseers and many of them(Zergs) just dont make them.After 15 min they abandon Mutas.Now Terran beginn with the heavy drops and they forget to defend their hatcheries.Why? Same was with TargA.Nice 15 min and later only building Ultralisks awaiting to reach victory only building them,but the harass and drops by Shuttle were soo good.You need mutalisk,spores and spine to defend.No more BL+winfestor and Zergs are once again crying...At least in KR the things are pretty even.Still dont understand why are Protoss so bad represented....
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 10:31:31
April 19 2013 09:50 GMT
#103
On April 19 2013 18:29 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 16:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Hilarious how pretty much the same zergs balance whine with impunity all over TL. The funny thing is, if you take out the Koreans, there are still more European zergs in the premier competition (9) than European terrans (8). Perhaps you should whine that Korean zergs are not participating in the European scene as much as the Korean terrans (oh, wait. There are also more Code S zerg (12) than terrans (11).)

This is where I need Incontrol for the voice-over: ''Now that zergs are not winning ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, the game is broken''.

Only because they were invited. We will see how it will all look after first season. Does anyone know if WCS EU follows same rule as Code S, as in only top 8 stay in Code S and rest need to battle it out with Challenger League players?


Googling that for you reveals that yes, only 8 stay in Code S, the rest drop down to Challenger (16 from first group stage) (8 from second group stage). Explanatory graph

I heartily agree that we should see how it will look after the first season, rather than whine immediately.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Cirqueenflex
Profile Joined October 2010
499 Posts
April 19 2013 09:53 GMT
#104
I'm a little sad though for TargA, who lost in the last deciding round to Shuttle to not qualify, XlorD, who has been dominating the german scene this year and barely didn't make it as well, and finally for WhiteRa. Everyone loves WhiteRa.
Give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
Ponera
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada596 Posts
April 19 2013 09:56 GMT
#105
On April 19 2013 18:25 aTcho wrote:
People should stop complaining about the current balance of the game at such a high level.
But I am afraid it is true that zergs are having a rough time in the current state of the game and it seems slightly easier for the terran players now with the new units.


REALLY?
You won't feel very "Plus" in TL+
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 19 2013 09:58 GMT
#106
On April 19 2013 18:53 Cirqueenflex wrote:
I'm a little sad though for TargA, who lost in the last deciding round to Shuttle to not qualify, XlorD, who has been dominating the german scene this year and barely didn't make it as well, and finally for WhiteRa. Everyone loves WhiteRa.


There are still Code A qualifiers, with 8 spots up for grasp, so not all hope is lost yet!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 19 2013 10:01 GMT
#107
WoOOHH MAH MAN SHUTTLE CLARITY GAMING WHATUP!!

+ Show Spoiler +
shoutouts to Alex!


yeah
I'm happy bout that. A lot.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Pitrocelli
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovakia127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 10:16:15
April 19 2013 10:15 GMT
#108
On April 19 2013 18:49 Dvriel wrote:
I was so impressed no Zerg quilified through the brackets!!! The issue is their ZvT.The new WM style.They are used to A-move into the Marine/Siege tank line and win trading units one after another.Now its impossible.Tanks are visible,mines not.You need Overseers and many of them(Zergs) just dont make them.After 15 min they abandon Mutas.Now Terran beginn with the heavy drops and they forget to defend their hatcheries.Why? Same was with TargA.Nice 15 min and later only building Ultralisks awaiting to reach victory only building them,but the harass and drops by Shuttle were soo good.You need mutalisk,spores and spine to defend.No more BL+winfestor and Zergs are once again crying...At least in KR the things are pretty even.Still dont understand why are Protoss so bad represented....


About big engagements : A lot of zergs is trying to flank, snipe mines with mutas, detonate clumps of mines with 3 banelings. At the same time you have to keep up your macro and injects plus ideally creep spread. And imagine that drop hits at 2 places at once during push which is standard. Now when you look at drop location just for a moment you will miss exact locations of burrowed mines. At some point you have to just attack position or sack your expansion. In WOL zergs had possibilities to counterattack, now with mines and hellbats counter is a lot less likely to do enough damage. Only after tier 3 and ultralisk tech you can trade with mine based army.

Overseer are extremly slow even with speed upgrade, decent terrans snipe them and have low vision range. If you take overseer with flock of mutas he will be vulnurable or you slow whole clump to overseer speed. There is possiblity for overseer to die to 2 mine hits if u move him just slightly behind max vision range. And all this for cost of 1 roach.

About metagame: Terrans realized that after 2-3 cost effective engagements they can simply rally units and overpower zergs. They have two most cost effective units in game, best mineral sink and unlimited mules due to new greedy builds. People praise Life but bust timing will be figured eventually. Meanwhile terrans are getting better with mine placement and incorporate hellbats to counter ling flocks. Without balance patch i am willing to bet even in Korea TvZ will become problem.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 19 2013 10:15 GMT
#109
On April 19 2013 18:47 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 18:29 -Archangel- wrote:
On April 19 2013 16:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Hilarious how pretty much the same zergs balance whine with impunity all over TL. The funny thing is, if you take out the Koreans, there are still more European zergs in the premier competition (9) than European terrans (8). Perhaps you should whine that Korean zergs are not participating in the European scene as much as the Korean terrans (oh, wait. There are also more Code S zerg (12) than terrans (11).)

This is where I need Incontrol for the voice-over: ''Now that zergs are not winning ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, the game is broken''.

Only because they were invited. We will see how it will all look after first season. Does anyone know if WCS EU follows same rule as Code S, as in only top 8 stay in Code S and rest need to battle it out with Challenger League players?


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/9496789/WCS_2013_Format_Players_Prizes_and_Points-4_16_2013

Tnx for the link.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 19 2013 10:24 GMT
#110
But how are we supposed to QQ about how imba Zerg is now?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 10:41:06
April 19 2013 10:40 GMT
#111
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Congrats to the qualified, was a hell of a run. I can't wait for the premier to begin :D
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
April 19 2013 11:09 GMT
#112
On April 19 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Congrats to the qualified, was a hell of a run. I can't wait for the premier to begin :D


How long will it take before mass "sad zealot" threads will pop up?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
April 19 2013 11:11 GMT
#113
On April 19 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Hahahah, That was a nice joke.

The qualifiers were pretty fun, I hope the NA ones will be good.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 11:13:41
April 19 2013 11:12 GMT
#114
shuttle should choose a new name....less confusing and he will never reach greatness of original :p
dumchu
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 11:13:31
April 19 2013 11:13 GMT
#115
On April 19 2013 20:09 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Congrats to the qualified, was a hell of a run. I can't wait for the premier to begin :D


How long will it take before mass "sad zealot" threads will pop up?


Isn't there already one. Or kind off
Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
April 19 2013 11:29 GMT
#116
On April 19 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Congrats to the qualified, was a hell of a run. I can't wait for the premier to begin :D


"Why Zerg so OP 8+ page thread on toss section of bnet SC2 forums" seems to disagree with that.
Either way congrats to both who qualified. As far no Zerg someone already said that most of best zergs are already seeded.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 19 2013 11:30 GMT
#117
On April 19 2013 19:24 DavoS wrote:
But how are we supposed to QQ about how imba Zerg is now?


we watch the Koreans ! + Show Spoiler +
San is the new God now and doesn't count !
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 19 2013 11:33 GMT
#118
On April 19 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
After these kind of threads, i had come to the conclussion that protoss players are the nicest guys in the scene. I mean, they are normally underpopulated, but they are not crying for balance every other post.

Congrats to the qualified, was a hell of a run. I can't wait for the premier to begin :D

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267497
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
April 19 2013 12:39 GMT
#119
On April 19 2013 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 18:53 Cirqueenflex wrote:
I'm a little sad though for TargA, who lost in the last deciding round to Shuttle to not qualify, XlorD, who has been dominating the german scene this year and barely didn't make it as well, and finally for WhiteRa. Everyone loves WhiteRa.


There are still Code A qualifiers, with 8 spots up for grasp, so not all hope is lost yet!

16 spots
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
April 19 2013 12:48 GMT
#120
I think zergs are just struggling because they've been broodlording their way to victory for so many months they forgot everything else, its like relearning how to do everything else at a high level again, they're still capable, just need practice, wheras the other races have been doing different things all the time anyway.

/WoL BL era bitch out.
Useless wet fish.
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