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Siw and Shuttle qualify from WCS EU Prelim #4 - Page 4

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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 19 2013 05:49 GMT
#61
On April 19 2013 11:17 IdrA wrote:
id say one of these things is not like the others
but there isnt even one of them
lololol

i'd say the thing that's not like the others is Terran, cuz:
theoretical average = 8 slots / 3 races = 2.66 per race
Z:0 P:2 T:6
so Terran is even further from the theoretical average than Zerg is
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
April 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#62
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.


You have no idea what you're talking about.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 05:57:16
April 19 2013 05:52 GMT
#63
0 Finns got in to Premier league

Well, that's 100% sure that next season there is at least 2 (Welmu & elfi) if they keep playing good as now. Like Hasuobs, monchi and many other doesnt belong to premier xD

They just should have done that 12 or 8 get invited and rest have to go throw qualifications...

On April 19 2013 12:08 Gatesleeper wrote:
Here's a table I made illustrating who did well in these qualifiers:

[image loading]


Welmu ;(
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 19 2013 06:01 GMT
#64
On April 19 2013 11:07 SoOJuuu wrote:
no zergs in top2 in 4 days?
suprise suprise ^^


to be honest, delphi and xlord was super close and most euro top zergs are SO strong, that they are already invited
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Mefano
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden190 Posts
April 19 2013 06:01 GMT
#65
On April 19 2013 14:49 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 11:17 IdrA wrote:
id say one of these things is not like the others
but there isnt even one of them
lololol

i'd say the thing that's not like the others is Terran, cuz:
theoretical average = 8 slots / 3 races = 2.66 per race
Z:0 P:2 T:6
so Terran is even further from the theoretical average than Zerg is


That might have been true if not all good zergs and protosses were invited :-P

What is it with you people failing to see this?
Yo
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
April 19 2013 06:11 GMT
#66
On April 19 2013 15:01 Mefano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 14:49 figq wrote:
On April 19 2013 11:17 IdrA wrote:
id say one of these things is not like the others
but there isnt even one of them
lololol

i'd say the thing that's not like the others is Terran, cuz:
theoretical average = 8 slots / 3 races = 2.66 per race
Z:0 P:2 T:6
so Terran is even further from the theoretical average than Zerg is


That might have been true if not all good zergs and protosses were invited :-P

What is it with you people failing to see this?



So much easier to blame balance than use brain <3
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 06:21:17
April 19 2013 06:18 GMT
#67
The first 3 qualifiers were very entertaining. The last one didn't produce many good games imo, but congrats to everyone anyway, especially bunny.

I agree with Mefano. Pretty much all the good zergs and protosses are already invited.

Welmu came so close though, I think he deserves a spot.
| SaSe | Naniwa |Stephano | LucifroN | Mvp | MarineKing | ByuN | Polt | MC | Parting |
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
April 19 2013 06:18 GMT
#68
if this was WoL, then foreigner Zergs
@taefoxy
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
April 19 2013 06:24 GMT
#69
I'm glad that the Koreans didn't just walk through Europe; the only Korean who made it is even on a foreign team which I think justifies using the EU qual a little more. Now, NA on the other hand I think will have a lot more of the Koreans making it through but I am hopeful that NA holds strong.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 19 2013 06:26 GMT
#70
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.
EmpireSiw
Profile Joined April 2013
Russian Federation1 Post
April 19 2013 06:36 GMT
#71
Targa: :0 Lazmy younger brother
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 06:43:22
April 19 2013 06:42 GMT
#72
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


Nevermind
BW forever || Thall
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
April 19 2013 06:51 GMT
#73
Bunny, hes danish terran whos maybe currently the top 3 terran in Europe.(atleast skillwise).
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
April 19 2013 07:05 GMT
#74
The top zergs are aldready invited but if this was wol we would still see a ton of Zergs go through these qualifiers because Infestor. After leaning heavily on the Infestor for such a long time this is all a natural process. I do think that hellbats and widow mines will get nerfed though.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 19 2013 07:10 GMT
#75
Awkward moment when no Zergs qualify.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 19 2013 07:17 GMT
#76
On April 19 2013 14:50 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.


You have no idea what you're talking about.

http://aligulac.com/players/155-IdrA/results/

To be fair, IdrA has only played 2 tournament games/qualifier games in 2013. Losing both.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 07:23:40
April 19 2013 07:21 GMT
#77
Sigh... Europe did not manage to hold on the last qualifiers. Oh well... -.-
It appears that Germany and Russia have the most representatives in Code S, each with four players.
YourOldBuddy
Profile Joined December 2011
Iceland94 Posts
April 19 2013 07:22 GMT
#78
The quarter final looks more impressive than the final. Big fish left behind in all qualifiers.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 19 2013 07:33 GMT
#79
Hilarious how pretty much the same zergs balance whine with impunity all over TL. The funny thing is, if you take out the Koreans, there are still more European zergs in the premier competition (9) than European terrans (8). Perhaps you should whine that Korean zergs are not participating in the European scene as much as the Korean terrans (oh, wait. There are also more Code S zerg (12) than terrans (11).)

This is where I need Incontrol for the voice-over: ''Now that zergs are not winning ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, the game is broken''.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 19 2013 07:37 GMT
#80
On April 19 2013 15:26 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 14:00 Bizeheryer wrote:
On April 19 2013 13:48 Polygamy wrote:
sooooooooooooooo much Terran.... zero Zergs + Show Spoiler +
Could Idra be right?


Why listen to Idra? He is only an average NA GM, who knows not much. Zergs like Life, Stephano and Scarlett eat Terrans like 'kimchi'. Well to do that, you actually have to practice and focus. Not blame your opponents and your own race in every game.

Is that why scarlet tweeted "Now i know how zergs felt the first year of WoL"?
So far Stephano has done not much in HoTS so that ones goes out of window as well

The only one valid is Life and he is probably the best ZvT'er in the world right now.


GSL: Zerg won 6 matches, Terran won 6 matches.
Maps won is 13 for Zerg and 15 for Terran.

Seems like Life is not the only valid ZvT'er.
Always look on the bright side of life
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