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On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition.
I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all.
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On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all.
You realise Shuttle lives in New York and plays from New York? Daisy, Sting, Arthur, MC, ForGG will play from Europe as far as i'm aware
So the only players that fall into that category are Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP
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On April 19 2013 22:04 Tidus Mino wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all. You realise Shuttle lives in New York and plays from New York? Daisy, Sting, Arthur, MC, ForGG will play from Europe as far as i'm aware So the only players that fall into that category are Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP
Thanks for letting me know. I will only hate Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP then.
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On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all. yeah man, not like they need money for a living or anything. fyi kespa was actually really seriously considering switching to WCS AM, but that didn't go through
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Any idea on when the groups will be announced? I assume it needs to be soon because the games start on Tuesday
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Congratz for ESL they stood strong with 4days of 1k+ peepz trying to qualify.
Positives :
1. Great qualifier tournament; 2. Really entertaining and fun; 3. Alot of streams and therefore alot of choice for consumers; 4. The amateur casters were not so bad i my opinion. Ofcourse some are better then others but every extra stream is positive when in round 1 u have 512+ matches.
Things for next time to think about :
1. Stream lag was abnoxious on many channels (but understandable); 2. Sometimes 6 out of 10 streams casted the same match, could be better coordinated; 3. Downtime between matches on wcs europe; 4. Sometimes there was just 1 english channel, not many for a EU tournament. I would suggest getting 5+ english streams next time.
Ofcourse i understand with these sort of tournaments u have to make choices seeing the short preparationtime, money etcetc. But, all in all i had alot of fun watching all the matches. Hopefully ESL will cast live again next qualifiers... there really fun, casting of replays isnt half so exciting as live broadcast of 512+ matches at the same time.
GLHF ESL
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On April 19 2013 22:11 Shellshock1122 wrote: Any idea on when the groups will be announced? I assume it needs to be soon because the games start on Tuesday
I heard today
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Wow a danish player I rarely hear of has qualified:O
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Really hyped for wcs europe... I think its going tobe awesome
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so many bunnies in sc2 these days *-*
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i wonder how many total games will be won between all the qualified people on this list...I'm going to go with < 5.
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Always terrans or zergs whining while protoss is having the hardest time at the big tournaments.
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On April 19 2013 22:06 illidanx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 22:04 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all. You realise Shuttle lives in New York and plays from New York? Daisy, Sting, Arthur, MC, ForGG will play from Europe as far as i'm aware So the only players that fall into that category are Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP Thanks for letting me know. I will only hate Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP then. You may hate mma and mvp but you cant deny that wcs eu will probably be a three way tournament between stephano, mma and mvp. Personally i think mvp will take all champion titles for eu if his health issues are gone
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On April 19 2013 23:38 farnham wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 22:06 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 22:04 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all. You realise Shuttle lives in New York and plays from New York? Daisy, Sting, Arthur, MC, ForGG will play from Europe as far as i'm aware So the only players that fall into that category are Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP Thanks for letting me know. I will only hate Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP then. You may hate mma and mvp but you cant deny that wcs eu will probably be a three way tournament between stephano, mma and mvp. Personally i think mvp will take all champion titles for eu if his health issues are gone
I can deny.
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On April 19 2013 23:41 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 23:38 farnham wrote:On April 19 2013 22:06 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 22:04 Tidus Mino wrote:On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all. You realise Shuttle lives in New York and plays from New York? Daisy, Sting, Arthur, MC, ForGG will play from Europe as far as i'm aware So the only players that fall into that category are Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP Thanks for letting me know. I will only hate Tails, Finale, MMA and MVP then. You may hate mma and mvp but you cant deny that wcs eu will probably be a three way tournament between stephano, mma and mvp. Personally i think mvp will take all champion titles for eu if his health issues are gone I can deny. Well you may say what you want but wcs eu has considerably less top talent. I see maybe forgg, vortix, naniwa and nerchio having a chance to beat any of those three guys. Also it depends on groups and brackets but i think those three guys will probably be present in all the finals and ro4s
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On April 19 2013 23:31 Coolhwip wrote: Always terrans or zergs whining while protoss is having the hardest time at the big tournaments.
Proleague ahem ahem
Game overall is nicely balanced. People are stucked in the WoL balance state and surprised that Terran win more games all the sudden I feel.
Let's start having serious balance talk like after the real WCS is halfway, with all the invited players.
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On April 19 2013 23:53 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 23:31 Coolhwip wrote: Always terrans or zergs whining while protoss is having the hardest time at the big tournaments. Proleague ahem ahem Game overall is nicely balanced. People are stucked in the WoL balance state and surprised that Terran win more games all the sudden I feel. Let's start having serious balance talk like after the real WCS is halfway, with all the invited players.
They should buff the hellbat, its useless now
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On April 19 2013 14:44 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 13:59 neoghaleon55 wrote: I thought europe had a lot of good zergs. I guess I was wrong lolz We did. When the game was better balanced User was warned for this post
I thought most of us agreed Z was a tad to strong in the last year of WoL, I'd say it was worse balanced.
Cool to see newcomers, missed out the games but i heard some of the terrans played alot of mech.
Intrigued!!
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On April 19 2013 22:02 illidanx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 14:14 arkedos wrote:On April 19 2013 14:00 illidanx wrote: I would be more happy if koreans who jumped ship, e.g. MVP, MMA got knocked out without getting anything. why so much xenophobia ? I hope these guys motivate the rest and give us a nailbiting fierce competition. I hate the ones who jumped ships for easier money, that's all.
They were invited.
Not to mention, Mvp at least is in Code B, let's say he worked his way up to Code A for one season. There goes an entire Code S season of points, then he got into Code S after another season. There is no way he would get enough points to qualify for the world finals even if at the moment he was the best player in the world, because of how dumb WCS Korea is, not to mention the fact that the same amount of money is on the line everywhere so considering that it's pro-gamers job to play games and win money, means you have to go where the money is.
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