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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
April 03 2013 21:12 GMT
#21
I thought everyone knows Azubu is Riot. Think about it, if you put millions in the tournaments and stuffs, you should secretly make your own teams and get some money back
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#22
Well, I can't really say I actually have a clearer notion of what Azubu is after that.
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Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
April 03 2013 21:15 GMT
#23
Im scared that this is a house of card just waiting to implode
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
April 03 2013 21:18 GMT
#24
AZUBU is fucking creepy now that I've read this, I always wondered how they made money, but always assumed that I was just not looking hard enough o.0

FXO is a Forex trading platform and RaidCall is backed by some chinese company from what I've seen (another reason why offline streams in RC show up with chinese characters). AZUBU, I have yet to find out about and they never seem to give a straight answer....
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 03 2013 21:19 GMT
#25
On April 04 2013 06:13 Noocta wrote:
Well, I can't really say I actually have a clearer notion of what Azubu is after that.


Nope, I got more questions than answers myself. Hoping this would make people contribute some knowledge, but im not counting on anything
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
April 03 2013 21:20 GMT
#26
On April 04 2013 06:10 TeeTS wrote:
At this point I could even imagine this being some dummy firm for a gangster boss, who likes esports and wants to have his own team...


I'd say Blizzard making an investment into esports to keep the scene healthy is more likely than some drug dealer whom needs an esports money laundering organization. I'm just joking, of course. I think both are highly unlikely heh.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#27
AZUBU consists of angry ex-BW pros who didnt succeed in SC2. They want to buy the entire scene and then destroy it from the inside, and I imagine Bisu is the CEO.
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ChapOne
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 21:27:43
April 03 2013 21:25 GMT
#28
in my opinion raidcall and azubu don't want to make money right now. there goal is to now invest heavily and in a few years may get a revenue out of it. if you're a rich guy liking esports and looking for risky investments, why don't burn your money in esports?

edit:
On April 04 2013 06:20 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 06:10 TeeTS wrote:
At this point I could even imagine this being some dummy firm for a gangster boss, who likes esports and wants to have his own team...


I'd say Blizzard making an investment into esports to keep the scene healthy is more likely than some drug dealer whom needs an esports money laundering organization. I'm just joking, of course. I think both are highly unlikely heh.


i once read about a brazilian organisation sending their cs team to a lot of tournaments around europe just to launder money. sadly can't find the article right now, but it was quite interesting.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
April 03 2013 21:28 GMT
#29
On April 04 2013 06:00 JustPassingBy wrote:
Can't be worse than Raidcall, though who knows how much money they can get out of the users who are willing to give the program complete admin rights to their computer... ~ .~


I don't think Raidcall is too shady. They are owned by a company that makes money with Asian MMOs/online games. And building a considerable user base before monetizing it isn't completely unheard of.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 03 2013 21:30 GMT
#30
I think you guys are forgetting that anything is possible at Abuzucom.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 21:40:20
April 03 2013 21:35 GMT
#31
Azubu is actually run by Icefrog.

Anyways, phenomenal article, even if it doesn't really reveal that much more about Azubu. They sure are doing a good job of covering their bases and keeping their real inner workings a secret. It'll be interesting to see what will happen to Azubu in the next few years.
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
April 03 2013 21:40 GMT
#32
It's a very interesting read.

It's interesting because it tackles questions that I nearly asked myself. The first time I heard of Azubu, I thought "What a shit name. Who are they by the way?". Then I dropped the subject. Then, there was the CSL sponsorship : "Wow, cool, they invest in eSports!". And then they pick up top koreans. And...

Every time, I was a bit surprised. I didn't try to look any further mind you. I just dropped the subject. But as I read the article, those questions popped back.

And, yes, I agree, there is a problem in the business model. I don't believe in "I don't care as long as money flows in", it is naive thinking. And I don't believe in "Some rich guys want to support the scene and get money back in 5 years". No, no, no sir, it doesn't work this way. When you are like this, you act like MLGSundance, because by publicly backing eSports, he attracts attention and sympathy. People are more likely to buy MLG gold membership this way.

I'd like to read more of it. Too many questions are unanswered. But thank you OP.
lolspoon
Profile Joined March 2012
450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 21:42:09
April 03 2013 21:42 GMT
#33
On April 04 2013 06:12 canikizu wrote:
I thought everyone knows Azubu is Riot. Think about it, if you put millions in the tournaments and stuffs, you should secretly make your own teams and get some money back


You should stop reading the Sun
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GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 21:54:39
April 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#34
Note to OP:
AG in german means "Aktiengesellschaft" = Joint Stock Company
"Aktiengesetz" means security regulation. Please edit.

edit: I have no idea why Azubu has "AG" in their name since their are not listed in DAX.


Frankly speaking, I also wonder how much resources Azubu is investing on E-Sport without secure business model.
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
April 03 2013 21:44 GMT
#35
Yeah everything about them sounds shady, I tried looking into what they actually do a while ago, but found nothing real. It's probably either a bored billionaire or something illegal to hide money. However, there haven't been any complaints about them whatsoever afaik so.. so far so good :p
IMHope
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)1241 Posts
April 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#36
Maybe by finding out what Azubu actually does will kill E-Sports?
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Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
April 03 2013 21:49 GMT
#37
It's called Private Equity Investment.


Most commonly this is a 75/25 split between investors and partners. The idea is, you sell the investor on some idea that has potential for profitability in the short term, or potential for a larger sale to a more established industry leader down the road.

This means that the company you are starting can essentially come from no where, and begin making moves within the industry. Happens all the time in Oil and Gas.
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Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 03 2013 21:49 GMT
#38
Updated with http://pastebin.com/hp52ZfX8

Seems Lars Windhorst is involved, and it doesn't get prettier.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 03 2013 21:52 GMT
#39
Has anyone who has been promised money by Azubu not received it yet, in a delay that is perhaps longer than expected?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 03 2013 21:54 GMT
#40
I'll be surprised if Azubu exists 1 year from now.
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