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vik7
Profile Joined May 2009
United States227 Posts
April 01 2013 05:46 GMT
#81
=/ only five weeks is it worth it? if he competing or just training?
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 01 2013 05:47 GMT
#82
On April 01 2013 14:19 DonaldLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 11:52 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it


It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something.

@Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long.

It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious?

Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it.


o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live.

I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real.

Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD

On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently

He's still in school.

Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this...


You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer.

I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players.


Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans?

I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing.

Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school.

Do you not view pro gaming as a legitimate profession? If it is a legitimate profession you would expect a professional level commitment no? That seems to be the problem that koreans treat it as a profession and foreigners treat it as a hobby that pays.


Outside of Korea, it's not. SC2 has been around for less than three years. To mortgage your future and bet the rest of your life on being able to support yourself through playing it is beyond stupid.



Then why is it foreigners always cry about not winning against koreans. Im not saying which is right or wrong, but
i see butthurt foreigner fanboys start topics like "why are the koreans better" or "foreigner sustainability" at least once a year. In case people didnt know, 15~17 yo kids like Life or Leenock actually go to school. 8th Team's Baby, for example, had to go to school during his BW career otherwise the team (Wemade Fox, now disbanded) wouldnt sign him.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 01 2013 05:49 GMT
#83
On April 01 2013 14:47 mongmong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 14:19 DonaldLee wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:52 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it


It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something.

@Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long.

It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious?

Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it.


o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live.

I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real.

Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD

On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently

He's still in school.

Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this...


You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer.

I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players.


Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans?

I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing.

Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school.

Do you not view pro gaming as a legitimate profession? If it is a legitimate profession you would expect a professional level commitment no? That seems to be the problem that koreans treat it as a profession and foreigners treat it as a hobby that pays.


Outside of Korea, it's not. SC2 has been around for less than three years. To mortgage your future and bet the rest of your life on being able to support yourself through playing it is beyond stupid.



Then why is it foreigners always cry about not winning against koreans. Im not saying which is right or wrong, but
i see butthurt foreigner fanboys start topics like "why are the koreans better" or "foreigner sustainability" at least once a year. In case people didnt know, 15~17 yo kids like Life or Leenock actually go to school. 8th Team's Baby, for example, had to go to school during his BW career otherwise the team (Wemade Fox, now disbanded) wouldnt sign him.

high school is not UC Berkeley
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 01 2013 05:53 GMT
#84
On April 01 2013 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 14:47 mongmong wrote:
On April 01 2013 14:19 DonaldLee wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:52 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it


It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something.

@Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long.

It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious?

Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it.


o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live.

I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real.

Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD

On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently

He's still in school.

Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this...


You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer.

I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players.


Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans?

I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing.

Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school.

Do you not view pro gaming as a legitimate profession? If it is a legitimate profession you would expect a professional level commitment no? That seems to be the problem that koreans treat it as a profession and foreigners treat it as a hobby that pays.


Outside of Korea, it's not. SC2 has been around for less than three years. To mortgage your future and bet the rest of your life on being able to support yourself through playing it is beyond stupid.



Then why is it foreigners always cry about not winning against koreans. Im not saying which is right or wrong, but
i see butthurt foreigner fanboys start topics like "why are the koreans better" or "foreigner sustainability" at least once a year. In case people didnt know, 15~17 yo kids like Life or Leenock actually go to school. 8th Team's Baby, for example, had to go to school during his BW career otherwise the team (Wemade Fox, now disbanded) wouldnt sign him.

high school is not UC Berkeley



ehh i wasnt talking about tertiary education, i do know UC Berkeley is a college
어헣 ↗ 어헣 ↗
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 01 2013 05:55 GMT
#85
So it''s either a rather boring april fools joke, or he is going in his holiday period. Wich would mean for a week or 6 ish ?
To get a taste of Korea seems fine though, if he has the time he should go be it true or not.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 01 2013 05:57 GMT
#86
It's been community news'd, clearly not a joke.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
April 01 2013 06:02 GMT
#87
Not a very good april fools if it was, so its probably real
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
April 01 2013 06:09 GMT
#88
On April 01 2013 06:09 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 06:05 Zealously wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:57 Dodgin wrote:
I'm tempted to believe it because there's nothing funny about Suppy going to Korea.


That's pretty much how I feel as well.


The best april fools are the ones people actually believe, aka the plausible ones. Bomber did an april fools last year that he was going to the military. Nothing funny about that, but tons of people believed it.


nah the best april fools are ones that are funny. nobody remembers lame ones.
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JtoK
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany232 Posts
April 01 2013 06:28 GMT
#89
Good luck, Suppy!
DeathDyingDoomKiller
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada91 Posts
April 01 2013 06:33 GMT
#90
A student at Berkley is taking a break to go to Korea for gaming? Happy April Fools to you too EG and TL
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
April 01 2013 06:42 GMT
#91
Good luck, Suppy! Hopefully going out to Korea can facilitate his training.
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Obfuscation02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3 Posts
April 01 2013 07:11 GMT
#92
maybe they're just metagaming and they posted it right now because everyone would assume it's an april fools joke. next level trolling.
hastur420
Profile Joined March 2013
Belize178 Posts
April 01 2013 07:20 GMT
#93
wow this would be such a ridiculously awesome april's fool joke. i watched the weather lady on the teevo she said it's going to be raining maybe that's a joke too. ahhahahah
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 01 2013 07:22 GMT
#94
They picked the wrong day to announce this, but good for Suppy. A quick training with coach Park will be good for Suppy.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 01 2013 07:23 GMT
#95
I expect better of EG when it comes to April's Fools.

Should be real
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 01 2013 07:26 GMT
#96
On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it


It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something.

@Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long.

It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious?

Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it.


o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live.

I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real.

Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD

On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:
On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently

He's still in school.

Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this...


You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer.

I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players.


Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans?

I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing.

Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school.


First of all, I'm not aware of any Koreans who've dropped out of high school to become progamers. Players like Flash, Stats, Jaedong, etc, have all graduated high school. Secondly, why do you care if the teams are sponsored by big corporations? Do you care that sports arenas are owned by big corporations, or that people working regular jobs are at big corporations? What does this even mean?

Thirdly, are you ACTUALLY spending a lot of time practicing to using steroids? Spending a lot of time practicing is commitment and professionalism. Using steroids to play baseball is illegal. Sure, it'd be nice if the players could also have more free time, but that's what the job entails. Just like if you're a professional hockey player you have to travel a lot and sustain some injuries. All jobs involve some sort of sacrifices. Not caring about the top leagues for these reasons is absolutely absurd.
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skzaLone
Profile Joined March 2013
France2 Posts
April 01 2013 07:41 GMT
#97
April Fish :p, No Gl Suppy ! :D
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 01 2013 07:46 GMT
#98
On April 01 2013 15:33 DeathDyingDoomKiller wrote:
A student at Berkley is taking a break to go to Korea for gaming? Happy April Fools to you too EG and TL


Summer vacation. It will look good on his resume too. "While maintaining my 4.0, i went to Korea for 5 weeks to broaden my horizon etc etc etc"
asaed
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1412 Posts
April 01 2013 08:09 GMT
#99
Awesome go go Suppy!
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 01 2013 08:09 GMT
#100
Not that funny of a joke
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