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How suppy manages to pre-med and be as good as he is blows my mind.
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Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing.
edit: not to say I am not totally impressed that he is both getting a 4.0 atUC Berkeley and a top 16 NA GM. But I could take the prerequisite courses for the mcat while majoring in english and still call myself pre-med.
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On April 01 2013 22:11 Branman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 16:26 GolemMadness wrote:On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something. @Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long. It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious? Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it. o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live. I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real. Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently He's still in school. Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this... You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer. I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players. Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans? I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing. Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school. First of all, I'm not aware of any Koreans who've dropped out of high school to become progamers. Players like Flash, Stats, Jaedong, etc, have all graduated high school. Secondly, why do you care if the teams are sponsored by big corporations? Do you care that sports arenas are owned by big corporations, or that people working regular jobs are at big corporations? What does this even mean? Thirdly, are you ACTUALLY spending a lot of time practicing to using steroids? Spending a lot of time practicing is commitment and professionalism. Using steroids to play baseball is illegal. Sure, it'd be nice if the players could also have more free time, but that's what the job entails. Just like if you're a professional hockey player you have to travel a lot and sustain some injuries. All jobs involve some sort of sacrifices. Not caring about the top leagues for these reasons is absolutely absurd. Based on my knowledge from what others said on a previous thread when I brought this up, Flash didn't finish high school with the rest of his age group. The point about large corporations wasn't railing on corporations, it was about the distinction between amateur and professional. That's a big difference when teenagers are involved. You just missed the steroid comparison completely. It wasn't about spending time to practice, it was about unacceptable sacrifices. Back when steroids were used, they weren't seriously banned (as in the official rules of baseball). It ended up being an exercise in game theory, if you wanted to keep pace with the rest of people playing baseball, you had to take steroids. The analogy here is that taking large risks to get ahead in esports should be an unnecessary sacrifice which should be looked down upon. Interesting article here: http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2013/01/steroids-baseballSpecifically this quote: Show nested quote +
In contrast, the likes of Mr Berkman prioritised their own well-being long after retirement over their teams’ imperative to win now. Like all of us, professional athletes respond to incentives, and baseball players who doped did no more and no less than what they were paid to do.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191845
That was in 2011, and Flash is currently 20, so he graduated when he was 18. I don't understand what you're saying about corporations. Would you prefer if they were sponsored by smaller companies so that they made less money...?
"It wasn't about spending time to practice, it was about unacceptable sacrifices." Yet you don't mention what these unacceptable sacrifices are? All you talked about was not graduating high school, which was incorrect, and that big corporations are involved. If it's not about spending time to practice, then what is it? That's really the only sacrifice they're making: time spent practicing instead of pursuing another career path. The only other possible sacrifice I can think of is the potential for injury, but the same could be said about pretty much any sport as well.
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On April 02 2013 11:19 DoubleIcaras wrote:
How suppy manages to pre-med and be as good as he is blows my mind.
Study and play all day. That's about it.
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Hasn't Suppy has been going to University as well as gaming? Maybe this is for EG and also for himself to decide if he would continue going to university and gaming at the same time, or take one or the other, hopefully gaming seeing as he is very talented and a very like-able person
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On April 02 2013 13:34 HugeFroMan wrote:
Hasn't Suppy has been going to University as well as gaming? Maybe this is for EG and also for himself to decide if he would continue going to university and gaming at the same time, or take one or the other, hopefully gaming seeing as he is very talented and a very like-able person
Yes, he's doing pre-med.
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On April 02 2013 12:28 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 22:11 Branman wrote:On April 01 2013 16:26 GolemMadness wrote:On April 01 2013 11:42 Branman wrote:On April 01 2013 06:30 Maghetti wrote:On April 01 2013 06:22 Alryk wrote:On April 01 2013 05:55 Zenbrez wrote:On April 01 2013 05:52 Alryk wrote:On April 01 2013 05:51 Zenbrez wrote:
Not buying it It's still march in the USA. Could probably ask Suppy for confirmation on twitter or something. @Mistertea: Suppy is in college, so obviously he can't go for very long. It's also still March in Canada, interesting huh? Many companies (Blizzard to name one) frequently makes their announcements on March 31st. The tweet says he's going during may, which is when school is off (assuming he isn't taking summer school, which he has been doing in the past), which makes it seem more real. If it is a joke, wouldn't you want it to seem real, and not blatantly obvious? Even if I'm wrong, so what? Nothing. I'm not buying it. o.O ok sorry, lol. My family lives in Canada, I happen to be in the US. I could have also said central, south america, and mexico, but I happened to go with the country I'm in. I'd also have been forgetting any number of islands like Cuba etc. I didn't look at where you live. I'm not disputing your ability to not buy it. You're more than welcome to do so, I was simply stating evidence as to why I could see it being real. Plus, this isn't cruel, funny, or otherwise interesting. I don't think it would make a very interesting april fool's joke. On april 2nd, EG is like "lol april fools," but who cares? XD On April 01 2013 06:20 Maghetti wrote:On April 01 2013 06:18 NovemberstOrm wrote:On April 01 2013 05:51 MisterTea wrote:
only 5 weeks? =/ stay there longer/permanently He's still in school. Why does it seem like half the foreigners are trying to be progamers while in school? What is the point? They can't possibly be competitive with the koreans like this... You know suppy beat polt towards the end of WoL in a showmatch? Before polt semi-retired to go study that is. He's pretty good. Obviously he isn't going to win GSL anytime soon, but he's also not a full time progamer. I'm just saying that the foreigner scene will never keep up if they do not fully dedicate themselves. Sure, maybe they get the last laugh when they have good careers to transition into later in life but in the mean time they will be mediocre pro gamers. I'm fine with people wanting to transition in life I just want to see some more committed players. Maybe we need less commitment from Koreans? I'm sure I'm not most people, but I don't care about a league which features players who dropped out of high school to work for a professional gaming team dedicated to building brand recognition for a large corporation (basically Kespa style proleague teams). Similarly, I wouldn't care about a baseball league or baseball records where all of the players are taking steroids, and I don't care about the skill of athletes who graduate from East-Germany style athletic schools. I know that admiring the sacrifice of players in their passionate pursuit of progaming is a big thing on TL, but there are many things not worth sacrificing. Kudos to Suppy for trying to have it all. I hope that he does great things when he can go full time after he graduates from school. First of all, I'm not aware of any Koreans who've dropped out of high school to become progamers. Players like Flash, Stats, Jaedong, etc, have all graduated high school. Secondly, why do you care if the teams are sponsored by big corporations? Do you care that sports arenas are owned by big corporations, or that people working regular jobs are at big corporations? What does this even mean? Thirdly, are you ACTUALLY spending a lot of time practicing to using steroids? Spending a lot of time practicing is commitment and professionalism. Using steroids to play baseball is illegal. Sure, it'd be nice if the players could also have more free time, but that's what the job entails. Just like if you're a professional hockey player you have to travel a lot and sustain some injuries. All jobs involve some sort of sacrifices. Not caring about the top leagues for these reasons is absolutely absurd. Based on my knowledge from what others said on a previous thread when I brought this up, Flash didn't finish high school with the rest of his age group. The point about large corporations wasn't railing on corporations, it was about the distinction between amateur and professional. That's a big difference when teenagers are involved. You just missed the steroid comparison completely. It wasn't about spending time to practice, it was about unacceptable sacrifices. Back when steroids were used, they weren't seriously banned (as in the official rules of baseball). It ended up being an exercise in game theory, if you wanted to keep pace with the rest of people playing baseball, you had to take steroids. The analogy here is that taking large risks to get ahead in esports should be an unnecessary sacrifice which should be looked down upon. Interesting article here: http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2013/01/steroids-baseballSpecifically this quote:
In contrast, the likes of Mr Berkman prioritised their own well-being long after retirement over their teams’ imperative to win now. Like all of us, professional athletes respond to incentives, and baseball players who doped did no more and no less than what they were paid to do.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191845That was in 2011, and Flash is currently 20, so he graduated when he was 18. I don't understand what you're saying about corporations. Would you prefer if they were sponsored by smaller companies so that they made less money...? "It wasn't about spending time to practice, it was about unacceptable sacrifices." Yet you don't mention what these unacceptable sacrifices are? All you talked about was not graduating high school, which was incorrect, and that big corporations are involved. If it's not about spending time to practice, then what is it? That's really the only sacrifice they're making: time spent practicing instead of pursuing another career path. The only other possible sacrifice I can think of is the potential for injury, but the same could be said about pretty much any sport as well.
Thanks for the information. I guess I was mistaken.
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On April 02 2013 11:16 Hexo411 wrote:
He can feel....
...just like home
So true because...
...Korea and America are just the same.
On topic: Not sure if Aprils fooling me or not but if its real then GL Superiorwolf, have fun and enjoy it ^^
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I can see it now. Whenever he goes out everyone will speak to him in Korean and it will be awkward.
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On April 02 2013 11:16 Hexo411 wrote:
He can feel....
...just like home
If my memory serves me correctly, isn't his ethnic background *Chinese*? O_o
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On April 02 2013 15:08 Funnytoss wrote:If my memory serves me correctly, isn't his ethnic background *Chinese*? O_o
So hard to tell sarcasm online, but I assume he means since he looks Korean? I could be totally wrong, but hello fellow Taiwanese TLer!
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On April 02 2013 12:27 408xParadox wrote:
Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing.
edit: not to say I am not totally impressed that he is both getting a 4.0 atUC Berkeley and a top 16 NA GM. But I could take the prerequisite courses for the mcat while majoring in english and still call myself pre-med.
medical school is a lot of memorizing
this thing about medical school being so great and medical doctors being so great is a bit overblown. the PhD kind of doctor is a totally different animal.
i've watched a lot of 30+ year old nurses make far better diagnosticians than many MDs... and of course they get fuck all credit for doing it.
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I know this wasn't an april fools joke, but it got me thinking... EG should have done an april fools day announcment saying "EGIdra to Proleague!" but use Bryce's picture XD
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On April 02 2013 19:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 12:27 408xParadox wrote:
Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing.
edit: not to say I am not totally impressed that he is both getting a 4.0 atUC Berkeley and a top 16 NA GM. But I could take the prerequisite courses for the mcat while majoring in english and still call myself pre-med. medical school is a lot of memorizing this thing about medical school being so great and medical doctors being so great is a bit overblown. the PhD kind of doctor is a totally different animal. i've watched a lot of 30+ year old nurses make far better diagnosticians than many MDs... and of course they get fuck all credit for doing it.
it all depends on society traditions, prestige on the profession, etc.
while it's prestigous everywhere to some extent, in the USA doctors get paid ridiculously well and in a developing country in Europe they get paid ridiculously bad. here being a doctor isn't that big of a deal, having a degree isn't worth all that much since you won't get a job anyways;)
also they receive the Dr. title after graduating, while for example a materials science engineer studies for 5 years for master's, then researches and studies another 4 years for PhD, from aspects harder things than an MD, and still society thinks they're not "real doctors", it's pretty lame.
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On April 01 2013 23:47 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 23:43 SpecialistSc wrote:
be mindful this is a very big sacrifice for suppy
as a premed student, you don't want to say you spent entire summer playing games Damn, he is pre-med at Berkeley, rocking high grades and is still this good at SC2. Well I am an underachiever in all ways. I would like to correct my previous statement, his earning potential could be on par with Flash depending on the branch of medicine he goes into(full career, until retirement, to be clear).
he has the potential to earn much more than flash does!
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On April 02 2013 12:27 408xParadox wrote:
Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing.
So, what's your degree in buddy?
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On April 02 2013 19:29 echobong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 12:27 408xParadox wrote:
Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing. So, what's your degree in buddy?
well,
i know that if you are planning on being a practising MD .. throwing around the term "retarded" in the way it was in that post is ill advised.
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On April 02 2013 19:29 echobong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 12:27 408xParadox wrote:
Honestly when people say they are pre-med is retarded, all that means is that you are going to medical school after your undergrad degree. Your undergrad may be bio, biochem. But it is not some awe inspiring thing. So, what's your degree in buddy?
Who cares let him get worked up over nothing. No need to keep it going.
On topic: Looks like this is real so I'm happy to see Suppy with a huge opportunity.
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