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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-02 12:44:20
December 02 2018 12:44 GMT
#561
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
thekaas
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-02 17:06:38
December 02 2018 16:26 GMT
#562
On December 02 2018 18:44 Kashim wrote:
^ yep, done :D

Thank you for that, but there seems to be some confusion. To my knowledge, Tileä has not joined DuST Gaming, and neither her nor DuST have made any announcement about that.

EDIT
Seems like there's a pending, but not yet official thing going on.
My liquibets are slightly better than flipping a coin
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1244 Posts
December 02 2018 17:19 GMT
#563
On December 03 2018 01:26 thekaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 18:44 Kashim wrote:
^ yep, done :D

Thank you for that, but there seems to be some confusion. To my knowledge, Tileä has not joined DuST Gaming, and neither her nor DuST have made any announcement about that.

EDIT
Seems like there's a pending, but not yet official thing going on.


I got msg from dust manager about her rejoiningto the team.
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
December 02 2018 23:59 GMT
#564
Match predictions should not include matches played from the previous expansion or for more than a year ago due to the annual patches that occur.
Nicoract
Profile Joined December 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-12-22 18:27:33
December 22 2018 18:26 GMT
#565
Dear team of Aligulac. Here's my account. http://aligulac.com/players/15425-Nicoract/
And we can see here, (my last 2 matches) that I lost in Regenerate Open Weekly Cup #58 in Ro16, and then lost 1 more time in Ro8 :D. Please fix it, I won vs Matvey in Ro16. Here is the bracket to prove it. https://goodgame.ru/cup/7464/grid/
(motik700 = <HTT>Matvey). I really need it, I've beaten the 6k MMR player) Thx a lot!
Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1244 Posts
December 22 2018 19:17 GMT
#566
On December 23 2018 03:26 Nicoract wrote:
Dear team of Aligulac. Here's my account. http://aligulac.com/players/15425-Nicoract/
And we can see here, (my last 2 matches) that I lost in Regenerate Open Weekly Cup #58 in Ro16, and then lost 1 more time in Ro8 :D. Please fix it, I won vs Matvey in Ro16. Here is the bracket to prove it. https://goodgame.ru/cup/7464/grid/
(motik700 = <HTT>Matvey). I really need it, I've beaten the 6k MMR player) Thx a lot!


sorry, I accidentally submitted the wrong score, it's good now
SC2 LP Staff, Aligulac Editor, Tournament Organiser and Admin @KashimSC2
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
December 22 2018 21:23 GMT
#567
You guys missed a couple of games from sc2.fi 8v, most notably the grand final.
Jjangl
Profile Joined October 2018
1 Post
January 07 2019 14:38 GMT
#568
http://aligulac.com/players/17460-Jjang/

My profile is showing the wrong race. It should be protoss, not terran.
Kalera
Profile Joined January 2018
United States338 Posts
January 09 2019 19:20 GMT
#569
Heads up, I noticed Aligulac ratings haven't updated in a few days, though new games are still being added. Previously it updated multiple times daily, so it seems like there's some sort of issue?
LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
January 24 2019 16:29 GMT
#570
It seems to be still frozen.
Any news about what's going on ?
Those who refuse to become better, already stop being good
narusensei22
Profile Joined October 2018
31 Posts
January 24 2019 16:35 GMT
#571
On December 02 2018 21:44 KalWarkov wrote:
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.


Actually, foreigners are the one that have MMR advantage. They can simply beat bunch of inferior other foreigners and get higher MMR than Koreans, which is the clear advantage to get higher rank in Aligulac.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 24 2019 17:54 GMT
#572
On January 25 2019 01:35 narusensei22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2018 21:44 KalWarkov wrote:
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.


Actually, foreigners are the one that have MMR advantage. They can simply beat bunch of inferior other foreigners and get higher MMR than Koreans, which is the clear advantage to get higher rank in Aligulac.


No way, the MMR advantage stays with koreans as they earn more when they win and lose less when they don't; you could argue the field they are playing in is more difficult.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 29 2019 08:41 GMT
#573
On January 25 2019 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 01:35 narusensei22 wrote:
On December 02 2018 21:44 KalWarkov wrote:
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.


Actually, foreigners are the one that have MMR advantage. They can simply beat bunch of inferior other foreigners and get higher MMR than Koreans, which is the clear advantage to get higher rank in Aligulac.


No way, the MMR advantage stays with koreans as they earn more when they win and lose less when they don't; you could argue the field they are playing in is more difficult.


What makes you believe that this is how it is currently implemented? Do you have a single fact to back that up?
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 29 2019 11:04 GMT
#574
On January 29 2019 17:41 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2019 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
On January 25 2019 01:35 narusensei22 wrote:
On December 02 2018 21:44 KalWarkov wrote:
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.


Actually, foreigners are the one that have MMR advantage. They can simply beat bunch of inferior other foreigners and get higher MMR than Koreans, which is the clear advantage to get higher rank in Aligulac.


No way, the MMR advantage stays with koreans as they earn more when they win and lose less when they don't; you could argue the field they are playing in is more difficult.


What makes you believe that this is how it is currently implemented? Do you have a single fact to back that up?


It's not something that's pre-determined of course; it's just that korean's mmr is higher on average; look at Serral losing 22 points while winning WCS Montreal and Maru gaining points with his 4-3 run during Blizzcon.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 29 2019 12:37 GMT
#575
On January 29 2019 20:04 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2019 17:41 207aicila wrote:
On January 25 2019 02:54 Xain0n wrote:
On January 25 2019 01:35 narusensei22 wrote:
On December 02 2018 21:44 KalWarkov wrote:
Lower the Korean MMR advantage.


Actually, foreigners are the one that have MMR advantage. They can simply beat bunch of inferior other foreigners and get higher MMR than Koreans, which is the clear advantage to get higher rank in Aligulac.


No way, the MMR advantage stays with koreans as they earn more when they win and lose less when they don't; you could argue the field they are playing in is more difficult.


What makes you believe that this is how it is currently implemented? Do you have a single fact to back that up?


It's not something that's pre-determined of course; it's just that korean's mmr is higher on average; look at Serral losing 22 points while winning WCS Montreal and Maru gaining points with his 4-3 run during Blizzcon.


I'm not sure if anything has changed recently but back when I was a part of the project the only difference between Korean players and other nationalities was starting with higher Elo. Beyond that, the logic of determining rating changes was exactly the same across the board.

Unless something has changed in the mean time without my knowing (which is unlikely considering people would definitely have kicked up a fuss and complained about it), I would suggest that you are simply jumping to conclusions.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-29 13:47:15
January 29 2019 13:46 GMT
#576
Hm, I think you are implying that I am seeing some kind of anti-foreigner scheme in this.

Instead, I am just depicting reality the way it is: at the moment, in Korea high mmr players are more likely to play against opponents of similar mmr making their victory supposedly harder thus gaining more from victories and less from defeats.

Koreans earned it in a fair way with years of domination, but it would be simply not correct saying the mmr advantage doesn't belong to them.

207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-30 07:28:18
January 30 2019 07:27 GMT
#577
On January 29 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote:
Hm, I think you are implying that I am seeing some kind of anti-foreigner scheme in this.


No, you are making some strange claims about the Aligulac system that are born out of your own assumptions, and I am telling you that unless something has changed insidiously on the down low behind the scenes your assumptions are objectively wrong and that's simply not how it works.

However the way you started being defensive about something only tangentially related to the original object of discussion speaks volumes about you. I am no longer interested in pursuing this conversation.

To clarify I engaged with you not because I have any interest in your opinions on foreigners vs Koreans (or anyone else's for that matter), but in order to clarify a false claim regarding the way the Aligulac system works. Have a good day.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
January 30 2019 11:37 GMT
#578
On January 30 2019 16:27 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2019 22:46 Xain0n wrote:
Hm, I think you are implying that I am seeing some kind of anti-foreigner scheme in this.


No, you are making some strange claims about the Aligulac system that are born out of your own assumptions, and I am telling you that unless something has changed insidiously on the down low behind the scenes your assumptions are objectively wrong and that's simply not how it works.

However the way you started being defensive about something only tangentially related to the original object of discussion speaks volumes about you. I am no longer interested in pursuing this conversation.

To clarify I engaged with you not because I have any interest in your opinions on foreigners vs Koreans (or anyone else's for that matter), but in order to clarify a false claim regarding the way the Aligulac system works. Have a good day.


My claims are not strange and it should be easy not to misunderstand it after I explained them; a defensive approach was needed as you were polite but overly aggressive. Goodbye.

Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 00:33:44
February 01 2019 00:31 GMT
#579
At the moment Serral has disappeared, he is not in the list.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 01 2019 02:47 GMT
#580
Koreans have an artificial 100 mmr advantage from the get go on aligulac, at least i thought i've read that a long time ago.
should be lowered to 50 imo
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
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