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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
August 04 2024 08:55 GMT
#681
anyone knows whats going on with aligulac not updating recently?
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Kashim
Profile Joined December 2013
Poland1221 Posts
August 24 2024 08:58 GMT
#682
we're back with updated ratings!
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hfduaohfe
Profile Joined May 2025
3 Posts
May 25 2025 08:34 GMT
#683
Clem is currently listed as having the top TvT rating, despite playing primarily PvT for several months, is there any way an asterisk or something could be added to Clems TvT rating?
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
May 25 2025 18:44 GMT
#684
On May 25 2025 17:34 hfduaohfe wrote:
Clem is currently listed as having the top TvT rating, despite playing primarily PvT for several months, is there any way an asterisk or something could be added to Clems TvT rating?


Why? He earned that rating and if he doesn’t play more TvT his rating will decay over time..

Just because he is playing Protoss does not make his rating in TvT illegitimate.
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hfduaohfe
Profile Joined May 2025
3 Posts
May 25 2025 23:28 GMT
#685
On May 26 2025 03:44 onPHYRE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2025 17:34 hfduaohfe wrote:
Clem is currently listed as having the top TvT rating, despite playing primarily PvT for several months, is there any way an asterisk or something could be added to Clems TvT rating?


Why? He earned that rating and if he doesn’t play more TvT his rating will decay over time..

Just because he is playing Protoss does not make his rating in TvT illegitimate.


As far as I can tell, his TvT rating also includes the PvTs he plays, because he is considered a Terran player, his rating vs Terran is considered a TvT raiting.

This means that Clems rating vs Terran is largely based on PvT, but is displayed as TvT.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26455 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-26 00:04:16
May 26 2025 00:03 GMT
#686
On May 26 2025 08:28 hfduaohfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 03:44 onPHYRE wrote:
On May 25 2025 17:34 hfduaohfe wrote:
Clem is currently listed as having the top TvT rating, despite playing primarily PvT for several months, is there any way an asterisk or something could be added to Clems TvT rating?


Why? He earned that rating and if he doesn’t play more TvT his rating will decay over time..

Just because he is playing Protoss does not make his rating in TvT illegitimate.


As far as I can tell, his TvT rating also includes the PvTs he plays, because he is considered a Terran player, his rating vs Terran is considered a TvT raiting.

This means that Clems rating vs Terran is largely based on PvT, but is displayed as TvT.

It isn’t displayed as TvT, it’s displayed as vT on Aligulac.

Whether he’s playing Terran or Toss, his versus Terran is what it is.

I think it would be a nice change, or at least matchup filter to have. Equally I mean, for basically the entirety of SC2’s existence nobody off-raced at an elite level. So ratings are based on versus a race rather than what race you’re playing. Because the reasonable assumption is you’re playing your main race.

But if Clem’s PvT is elite tier, and whenever he is allowed to race switch he plays it, it feels a more accurate rating of his overall vT than splitting it.
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jackowens
Profile Joined May 2025
2 Posts
May 26 2025 00:44 GMT
#687
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
May 26 2025 01:26 GMT
#688
Aligulac ratings aren't actually separated by matchup despite being presented that way. Losses or wins in one matchup impact that players rating for all their matchups. If Clem dominates in PvT, TvP or TvZ without ever playing TvT his TvT increases as well. Since we've never had a consistently off racing pro that flaw has always been somewhat hidden but it has always been the case. This is also one of the reasons aligulac ratings have inflated so significantly.
hfduaohfe
Profile Joined May 2025
3 Posts
May 26 2025 17:17 GMT
#689
On May 26 2025 09:03 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2025 08:28 hfduaohfe wrote:
On May 26 2025 03:44 onPHYRE wrote:
On May 25 2025 17:34 hfduaohfe wrote:
Clem is currently listed as having the top TvT rating, despite playing primarily PvT for several months, is there any way an asterisk or something could be added to Clems TvT rating?


Why? He earned that rating and if he doesn’t play more TvT his rating will decay over time..

Just because he is playing Protoss does not make his rating in TvT illegitimate.


As far as I can tell, his TvT rating also includes the PvTs he plays, because he is considered a Terran player, his rating vs Terran is considered a TvT raiting.

This means that Clems rating vs Terran is largely based on PvT, but is displayed as TvT.

It isn’t displayed as TvT, it’s displayed as vT on Aligulac.

Whether he’s playing Terran or Toss, his versus Terran is what it is.

I think it would be a nice change, or at least matchup filter to have. Equally I mean, for basically the entirety of SC2’s existence nobody off-raced at an elite level. So ratings are based on versus a race rather than what race you’re playing. Because the reasonable assumption is you’re playing your main race.

But if Clem’s PvT is elite tier, and whenever he is allowed to race switch he plays it, it feels a more accurate rating of his overall vT than splitting it.


Sorry, I should have actually explained where I meant. It is displayed as TvT in the best match-up table here:
http://aligulac.com/periods/latest/
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