
Aligulac.com changelog and feedback thread - Page 33
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ManDudeBroGuy83
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ilax30
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championiasonu
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
On June 08 2020 19:16 championiasonu wrote: Can the ranking number be shown in the player's Summary page as a figure like "Rating history" figure, or shown in the player's Rating history page? Since when we want to know a player's history, the ranking number is more accurate than the rating number, which expands higher and higher with the development of time. Having both would be neat indeed ![]() | ||
UnLarva
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tigon_ridge
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Elentos
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On June 19 2020 19:54 tigon_ridge wrote: Something's weird, or maybe it's just my understanding of the math: between June 3 and June 17, Serral won every series, but somehow lost 24 points. How does this compute? He lost more maps than Aligulac's system predicted, thus the system deems that he underperformed and should lose points. It's bound to happen since Serral's Elo is so high. | ||
tigon_ridge
482 Posts
On June 19 2020 20:36 Elentos wrote: He lost more maps than Aligulac's system predicted, thus the system deems that he underperformed and should lose points. It's bound to happen since Serral's Elo is so high. That was my guess, but it seems a bit too drastic still, because he was 2:1 in ratio to Solar, 3:1 to Inno and Stats, and Reynor's rating is already so high that dropping 2 maps to him should not be punished that hard. I guess the biggest hits were from the 3 maps lost to drogo and hellraiser. | ||
UnLarva
458 Posts
Missing match: Group A, Serral vs Skillous (2-0). July 1, 2020 - 20:15 EEST | ||
Kashim
Poland1111 Posts
On July 06 2020 05:12 UnLarva wrote: ESL Pro Tour 2020/21 DH SC2 Masters 2020: Summer Europe Missing match: Group A, Serral vs Skillous (2-0). July 1, 2020 - 20:15 EEST done | ||
p1cass0
46 Posts
http://aligulac.com/records/hof/ | ||
UnLarva
458 Posts
Respect @Kashim ! Aligulac needs more active volunteers. So do Liquipedia. Statistical sites are meaningless if they are not continuously updated and logged properly even in "Premier" tournament category of the top players of the world, for all participating players. A relevant match (by Aligulac's own, self-declared standards) that is missing, between players X and Y, will always impact and mess everything else too, both directly within a list but also indirectly in a long run. Every player introduced to the system deserves the same treatment using same criteria of game/match inclusion. If there are a tournament worthy for the inclusion, then every player participating are automatically entitled for same, rigorous, careful handling of their stats within the system. If there are player who participates to such tournament without having notified by Aligulac yet, then he/she must be included as an account immediately. Otherwise the system doesn't make much sense. Rating inflation within the system comes from that necessity. More points will be included to the system with every new players, but every time there are a tournament valuable enough for inclusion, every single participating player's stats must be included. That is mandatory, unavoidable thing for maintaining the rating system's integrity, the purpose, the aim, and the meaning. Now, if relevant Serral's matches are missing over already updated lists, how people can defend the integrity of the rates? For anyone? As everyone can ask that same question about ratings using any player as example. After a few lists, a single systemic input error in a single data point has spread all over the set, and it will impact to everyone's ratings, with variable delays depending on do they match up directly or indirectly, now or after a while... But people still accuse Aligulac's logic and math, when it's faults are on the community who doesn't update the Aligulac rigorously enough. This is IMBA whine! ![]() But you, dear friend @Kashim know that multilemma.already well enough. | ||
InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
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ilax30
720 Posts
On July 26 2020 06:57 UnLarva wrote: Respect @Kashim ! Aligulac needs more active volunteers. So do Liquipedia. Statistical sites are meaningless if they are not continuously updated and logged properly even in "Premier" tournament category of the top players of the world, for all participating players. A relevant match (by Aligulac's own, self-declared standards) that is missing, between players X and Y, will always impact and mess everything else too, both directly within a list but also indirectly in a long run. Every player introduced to the system deserves the same treatment using same criteria of game/match inclusion. If there are a tournament worthy for the inclusion, then every player participating are automatically entitled for same, rigorous, careful handling of their stats within the system. If there are player who participates to such tournament without having notified by Aligulac yet, then he/she must be included as an account immediately. Otherwise the system doesn't make much sense. Rating inflation within the system comes from that necessity. More points will be included to the system with every new players, but every time there are a tournament valuable enough for inclusion, every single participating player's stats must be included. That is mandatory, unavoidable thing for maintaining the rating system's integrity, the purpose, the aim, and the meaning. Now, if relevant Serral's matches are missing over already updated lists, how people can defend the integrity of the rates? For anyone? As everyone can ask that same question about ratings using any player as example. After a few lists, a single systemic input error in a single data point has spread all over the set, and it will impact to everyone's ratings, with variable delays depending on do they match up directly or indirectly, now or after a while... But people still accuse Aligulac's logic and math, when it's faults are on the community who doesn't update the Aligulac rigorously enough. This is IMBA whine! ![]() But you, dear friend @Kashim know that multilemma.already well enough. I agree, as good as aligulac is you are never getting 100% accuracy with these databases which need to be manually updated. Like they didnt post the results from the finals of the €2000,- ![]() But again, both liquipedia and aligulac is being run by volenteers, so its already fantastic we have people working on these things 10 years after the game released. Both tools offer so much insight to not only casters and players but us viewers as well and as a avid sc2 followwer I use these websites nearly every day. Keep up the good work Kashim and crew long may it continue! | ||
Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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ZAWGURN
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MJG
United Kingdom792 Posts
EDIT: Wow, that worked quicker than I thought. Thanks! | ||
Luepert
United States1933 Posts
However I did find two instances of something weird where it has a match where it says a player plays themselves. Not just same username, same id as well. Here's links to player match histories filtered to the date of these occurrences. http://aligulac.com/players/5092/results/?after=2018-11-09&before=2018-11-09&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= http://aligulac.com/players/14339/results/?after=2019-08-12&before=2019-08-12&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= | ||
netrockdeals
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Kashim
Poland1111 Posts
On January 20 2021 19:20 Luepert wrote: Hello, I recently used your API to scrape the matches table to do some modeling, love it by the way. Super easy to use and an awesome data source. However I did find two instances of something weird where it has a match where it says a player plays themselves. Not just same username, same id as well. Here's links to player match histories filtered to the date of these occurrences. http://aligulac.com/players/5092/results/?after=2018-11-09&before=2018-11-09&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= http://aligulac.com/players/14339/results/?after=2019-08-12&before=2019-08-12&event=&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= thanks, I corrected the results | ||
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