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Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
October 30 2013 19:14 GMT
#281
On October 31 2013 02:32 slowbacontron wrote:
That's good to hear! Except that, um, I don't think it's updated as far as I can tell? + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also, if you click on the results tab, for some reason a ton of results are unrated even though they were entered many many hours ago. Is there something up with the updating?


Yes, we know. It's an unrelated bug that causes a division by zero while trying to maximize a function. TheBB is on it.
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 21:31:49
October 30 2013 19:45 GMT
#282
Thanks for all your work!

Polt and Hero have a performance nearly equivalent to their old rating, but end up losing points...
jjakji fan
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-01 13:16:01
November 01 2013 13:12 GMT
#283
I think there's a mistake in these sites! http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=P http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=T http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=Z

In the "Highest ratings ever achieved by X" sections, the ratings shown seem to be mirror matchup ratings, not overall ratings. The actual ranking seems to be right, though.

Also, this! http://aligulac.com/players/1-Leenock/period/73/ http://aligulac.com/players/1-Leenock/ Leenock had a rating of 2016 for one period...but his rating graph never reaches 2000. Why is this? It may be notable that in the periods immediately before and after that one he wasn't even close to 2000.
jjakji fan
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
November 03 2013 08:59 GMT
#284
On November 01 2013 22:12 slowbacontron wrote:
I think there's a mistake in these sites! http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=P http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=T http://aligulac.com/records/race/?race=Z

In the "Highest ratings ever achieved by X" sections, the ratings shown seem to be mirror matchup ratings, not overall ratings. The actual ranking seems to be right, though.

Also, this! http://aligulac.com/players/1-Leenock/period/73/ http://aligulac.com/players/1-Leenock/ Leenock had a rating of 2016 for one period...but his rating graph never reaches 2000. Why is this? It may be notable that in the periods immediately before and after that one he wasn't even close to 2000.

The answer to the Leenock thing is backwards smoothing I think.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Wilko
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany470 Posts
November 03 2013 09:26 GMT
#285
I really like this site even tho i'm the lowest ranked player in the world by far according to it ^^
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 13:42:24
November 03 2013 13:42 GMT
#286
On November 03 2013 18:26 Wilko wrote:
I really like this site even tho i'm the lowest ranked player in the world by far according to it ^^

Haha, well it's already an achievement that you're ranked in here at all!

@Grovbolle Thanks, though I must say that concept's a bit over my head right now
jjakji fan
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
November 03 2013 13:46 GMT
#287
On November 03 2013 22:42 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 18:26 Wilko wrote:
I really like this site even tho i'm the lowest ranked player in the world by far according to it ^^

Haha, well it's already an achievement that you're ranked in here at all!

@Grovbolle Thanks, though I must say that concept's a bit over my head right now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward–backward_algorithm

:D
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 03 2013 14:30 GMT
#288
Ok, I'll admit it. By "a bit", I meant "a lot. a loooooooooot". Maybe someday I'll understand it. somedayyyyyyy~~~
jjakji fan
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 10:06:03
November 06 2013 10:05 GMT
#289
On November 03 2013 23:30 slowbacontron wrote:
Ok, I'll admit it. By "a bit", I meant "a lot. a loooooooooot". Maybe someday I'll understand it. somedayyyyyyy~~~

The charts are plotted using data from not only the past, but also the future. The ratings in the lists use only past data (so that they never change). It makes the charts smoother, prettier and nicer to look at. Sparkles and ribbons and such.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 06 2013 13:57 GMT
#290
On November 06 2013 19:05 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2013 23:30 slowbacontron wrote:
Ok, I'll admit it. By "a bit", I meant "a lot. a loooooooooot". Maybe someday I'll understand it. somedayyyyyyy~~~

The charts are plotted using data from not only the past, but also the future. The ratings in the lists use only past data (so that they never change). It makes the charts smoother, prettier and nicer to look at. Sparkles and ribbons and such.

Cool, that makes sense! It seems to me that it makes the ratings inconsistent with the graphs, though.
jjakji fan
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 07 2013 06:07 GMT
#291
I was wondering something : if we take the MC number as a probability distribution, then what does the probability distribution look like?

I am pretty sure that 90% of the players have a MC number of 2 or less, some poor guys stand at 3, and you have at most a couple of progamers at 4. (My guess would be SEA players that have never gone abroad and have never faced moonglade)

Or do you have an incredibly isolated community (African/South American competitors?)

Note : I found an Aussie with a MC number of 4!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 07:26:15
November 07 2013 07:16 GMT
#292
So our Wiz-Kid Prillan just finished a new awesome feature, focusing on TL-writers and LR-creators.

Basically it's an auto postable, showing the match history with applied filters for players.

For instance this filter: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=3&offline=offline&game=HotS&op=Filter

Gives this postable:

Results for kr INnoVation.

Games: 75.00% (39-13)
Matches: 83.33% (15-3)

Current Form:
      L W W W W W W L L W
Recent Matches:
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr hyvaa
       kr INnoVation 0 – 2 kr soO
       kr INnoVation 1 – 2 kr DongRaeGu
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr Dark
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr viOLet
       kr INnoVation 3 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr RorO
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Revival
       kr INnoVation 3 – 4 kr Soulkey


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    z
Opponent Country: KR
Match Format: Bo3+
On/offline: offline
Game Version: HotS

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

I assume that you guys can use this for multiple purposes, especially in write-ups and during LR-threads
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
November 07 2013 07:29 GMT
#293
On November 07 2013 16:16 Grovbolle wrote:
So our Wiz-Kid Prillan just finished a new awesome feature, focusing on TL-writers and LR-creators.

Basically it's an auto postable, showing the match history with applied filters for players.

For instance this filter: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=3&offline=offline&game=HotS&op=Filter

Gives this postable:

Results for kr INnoVation.

Games: 75.00% (39-13)
Matches: 83.33% (15-3)

Current Form:
      L W W W W W W L L W
Recent Matches:
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr hyvaa
       kr INnoVation 0 – 2 kr soO
       kr INnoVation 1 – 2 kr DongRaeGu
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr Dark
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr viOLet
       kr INnoVation 3 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr RorO
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Revival
       kr INnoVation 3 – 4 kr Soulkey


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    z
Opponent Country: KR
Match Format: Bo3+
On/offline: offline
Game Version: HotS

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

I assume that you guys can use this for multiple purposes, especially in write-ups and during LR-threads

Looks nice When you guys have time left you could also add the ability to filter on an ongoing tournament (e.g., WCS), so they can use this for example when writing the preview of the final and show the performance of both players in that tournament alone. Road to the final basically.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
November 07 2013 07:52 GMT
#294
On November 07 2013 16:29 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 16:16 Grovbolle wrote:
So our Wiz-Kid Prillan just finished a new awesome feature, focusing on TL-writers and LR-creators.

Basically it's an auto postable, showing the match history with applied filters for players.

For instance this filter: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=3&offline=offline&game=HotS&op=Filter

Gives this postable:

Results for kr INnoVation.

Games: 75.00% (39-13)
Matches: 83.33% (15-3)

Current Form:
      L W W W W W W L L W
Recent Matches:
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr hyvaa
       kr INnoVation 0 – 2 kr soO
       kr INnoVation 1 – 2 kr DongRaeGu
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr Dark
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr viOLet
       kr INnoVation 3 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr RorO
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Revival
       kr INnoVation 3 – 4 kr Soulkey


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    z
Opponent Country: KR
Match Format: Bo3+
On/offline: offline
Game Version: HotS

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

I assume that you guys can use this for multiple purposes, especially in write-ups and during LR-threads

Looks nice When you guys have time left you could also add the ability to filter on an ongoing tournament (e.g., WCS), so they can use this for example when writing the preview of the final and show the performance of both players in that tournament alone. Road to the final basically.

So kind of like this?

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Taeja&event=Dreamhack 2013 Bucharest&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 09:49:34
November 07 2013 09:49 GMT
#295
On November 07 2013 16:29 dani` wrote:
Looks nice When you guys have time left you could also add the ability to filter on an ongoing tournament (e.g., WCS), so they can use this for example when writing the preview of the final and show the performance of both players in that tournament alone. Road to the final basically.


This would be nice, I agree.


Note that I also fixed two bugs:
  • The problem above reported by slowbacontron. (Records wrongly showing mirror match-up ratings)
  • The ability to access the short urls generated by the button at the bottom of the page.
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 07 2013 16:28 GMT
#296
Yay, these features are so cool! Thanks for fixing the bug too!
jjakji fan
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
November 07 2013 17:45 GMT
#297
On November 07 2013 16:52 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 16:29 dani` wrote:
On November 07 2013 16:16 Grovbolle wrote:
So our Wiz-Kid Prillan just finished a new awesome feature, focusing on TL-writers and LR-creators.

Basically it's an auto postable, showing the match history with applied filters for players.

For instance this filter: http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=3&offline=offline&game=HotS&op=Filter

Gives this postable:

Results for kr INnoVation.

Games: 75.00% (39-13)
Matches: 83.33% (15-3)

Current Form:
      L W W W W W W L L W
Recent Matches:
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr hyvaa
       kr INnoVation 0 – 2 kr soO
       kr INnoVation 1 – 2 kr DongRaeGu
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr Dark
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr viOLet
       kr INnoVation 3 – 0 kr Soulkey
       kr INnoVation 2 – 1 kr RorO
       kr INnoVation 2 – 0 kr Revival
       kr INnoVation 3 – 4 kr Soulkey


Filters:
+ Show Spoiler +
Opponent Race:    z
Opponent Country: KR
Match Format: Bo3+
On/offline: offline
Game Version: HotS

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

I assume that you guys can use this for multiple purposes, especially in write-ups and during LR-threads

Looks nice When you guys have time left you could also add the ability to filter on an ongoing tournament (e.g., WCS), so they can use this for example when writing the preview of the final and show the performance of both players in that tournament alone. Road to the final basically.

So kind of like this?

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=Taeja&event=Dreamhack 2013 Bucharest&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search

Yeah pretty much, but then in a format to be posted directly on TL. Good stuff keep it up
acadien
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada9 Posts
November 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#298
This is an interesting web site. I will certainly follow it avidely as a good prediction system is worth money.

Having been invovled in offshore wagering outfits for more than 10 years, I know that prediction is always a tricky and difficult thing to do. Those who find a good system end up making a lot of money (millions). They are rare.

The current market prices for the matchups of BlizzCon don't all agree with the predictions of aligulac.

Dear/Taeja, aligulac predicts that Dear will win with a probability of 46.98% (Dear an underdog!!).
Bookmakers have set the price of Dear winning to be around 65%.

Bomber/MMA, aligulac predicts that Bomber will win with a probabiliy of 43.73%
Bookmakers have set the price of Bomber winning to be around 59%.

Innovation/DuckDoek aligulac and bookmakers are about the same.

Jaedong/MVP, aligulac predicts 65.75%
Bookmakers Jaedong wins at 65%

I do wager on these, started recently, and so far so good (against the bookmaker). It's a short run so far, so I could be luckyier than I should have been. On the other hand, I'm not sure I would have won using this prediction system.

I'll report after BlizzCon.

Regards,
Acadien.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
November 07 2013 19:44 GMT
#299
Keep in mind that some characteristics of the SC2 scene make it extremely difficult to portray some players' skills both accurately and objectively. If a player almost always plays among a very limited set of players, for example GSL or Proleague, there isn't a very good way to standardize his skill against players outside that pool. Additionally, some players' skill levels are just so close that it's impossible to really predict a match between them.

Good luck!
jjakji fan
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
November 07 2013 19:53 GMT
#300
Aligulac has entered my 8 most visted websites. Thanks guys for the amazing resource!
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