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kurosu_
Profile Joined February 2013
France46 Posts
December 02 2013 10:14 GMT
#321
I was eager to see the ELO performance of TaeJa and was disappointed. But I was also very impressed the instantaneous overall performance rating of 2440, e.g. to see the best performance (eg given at least some minimal count in matches). Is there a way to retrieve data based on this?

Anyway, I looked at INnoVation's performance. Lots of +∞ that make it impossible to compare. I can't help myself thinking that those ratings comparing to expected performance in rational numbers are bogus.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 02 2013 10:27 GMT
#322
On December 02 2013 19:14 kurosu_ wrote:
I was eager to see the ELO performance of TaeJa and was disappointed. But I was also very impressed the instantaneous overall performance rating of 2440, e.g. to see the best performance (eg given at least some minimal count in matches). Is there a way to retrieve data based on this?

Anyway, I looked at INnoVation's performance. Lots of +∞ that make it impossible to compare. I can't help myself thinking that those ratings comparing to expected performance in rational numbers are bogus.

2 things:
1: Elo, not ELO.
2: We do not use Elo
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
kurosu_
Profile Joined February 2013
France46 Posts
December 02 2013 11:08 GMT
#323
On December 02 2013 19:27 Grovbolle wrote:
2 things:
1: Elo, not ELO.
2: We do not use Elo


Well OK, but can we not focus on what I feel is a red herring ? :-)

I'd be more interested in knowing how to retrieve information related to the Whatever performance as seen in each period/list report.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 02 2013 11:13 GMT
#324
On December 02 2013 20:08 kurosu_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 19:27 Grovbolle wrote:
2 things:
1: Elo, not ELO.
2: We do not use Elo


Well OK, but can we not focus on what I feel is a red herring ? :-)

I'd be more interested in knowing how to retrieve information related to the Whatever performance as seen in each period/list report.

I'll poke TheBB for an answer
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
December 02 2013 11:21 GMT
#325
Are you going to add the newest patch to the Balance report ?
I love hellbats
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 02 2013 11:30 GMT
#326
On December 02 2013 19:14 kurosu_ wrote:
I was eager to see the ELO performance of TaeJa and was disappointed. But I was also very impressed the instantaneous overall performance rating of 2440, e.g. to see the best performance (eg given at least some minimal count in matches). Is there a way to retrieve data based on this?

Anyway, I looked at INnoVation's performance. Lots of +∞ that make it impossible to compare. I can't help myself thinking that those ratings comparing to expected performance in rational numbers are bogus.


It's not available from the site but you can download the database dump here (click the link). The performance value are stored in the rating table in columns comp_rat, comp_rat_vp, comp_rat_vt and comp_rat_vz. A value of -1000 indicates undefined. To get the integer values as displayed on the site you have to add the value by 1 and multiply by 1000.

Example query:
+ Show Spoiler +

For Innovation who has id 48 we can do the following
SELECT period_id, comp_rat, comp_rat_vp FROM rating WHERE player_id = CAST('48' AS INT) ORDER BY period_id;

period_id | comp_rat | comp_rat_vp
-----------+-------------------+-------------------
59 | -1000 | -3000
60 | -1000 | -1000
61 | -1000 | -3000
62 | -1000 | -3000
63 | 0.506785768370597 | 0.961210326609208
64 | -1000 | -3000
65 | -1000 | -1000
66 | -1000 | -1000
67 | -1000 | -2000
68 | -1000 | -1000
69 | -1000 | -1000
70 | -1000 | -1000
71 | -1000 | -2000
72 | -1000 | -1000
73 | -1000 | 0.805097961015793
74 | -1000 | -3000
75 | -1000 | -3000
76 | -1000 | -2000
77 | -1000 | -3000
78 | -1000 | -1000
79 | -1000 | -1000
80 | -1000 | 1.835486944238
81 | -1000 | -3000
82 | -1000 | 1.2670842505742
83 | -1000 | 0.305439907597277
84 | -1000 | 0.757489515690336
85 | -1000 | -2000
86 | -1000 | -2000
87 | -1000 | 0.464938208714623
88 | -1000 | -2000
89 | -1000 | 0.786196051678629
90 | -1000 | 1.18626996724444
91 | -1000 | 0.309787830562391
92 | -1000 | 0.764082841949397
93 | 1.05504536705062 | 1.51739625413087
94 | 0.67968615333716 | 0.952243701089033
95 | -1000 | -1000
96 | -1000 | -2000
97 | -1000 | 0.933469876019016
98 | -1000 | -2000
99 | 0.835606130996874 | 0.990588879995195
(41 rows)

For example, Innovations performance vP was (0.990588879995195 + 1) * 1000 = 1990.588879995195 which is rounded to 1991 on the site.
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 02 2013 11:30 GMT
#327
On December 02 2013 20:08 kurosu_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 19:27 Grovbolle wrote:
2 things:
1: Elo, not ELO.
2: We do not use Elo


Well OK, but can we not focus on what I feel is a red herring ? :-)

I'd be more interested in knowing how to retrieve information related to the Whatever performance as seen in each period/list report.

That should be possible with the API which is coming up (and it really is coming up this time, no joke). There's no built-in function for this because I thought the two-week period is rather arbitrary and it sometimes splits in the middle of tournaments.

On December 02 2013 20:21 GreenMash wrote:
Are you going to add the newest patch to the Balance report ?

If it seems significant enough. I don't know, I haven't paid attention.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
December 05 2013 22:57 GMT
#328
you are probably aware if not the 500: Internal Server Error happens again.
Cj hero | Zest
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 05 2013 23:07 GMT
#329
If you are talking about the match history or adjustments page, then I just fixed those.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
December 05 2013 23:23 GMT
#330
On December 06 2013 08:07 TheBB wrote:
If you are talking about the match history or adjustments page, then I just fixed those.

yes thx! works fine now
Cj hero | Zest
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
December 06 2013 04:51 GMT
#331
acutally the results/search isn't working
Cj hero | Zest
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 06 2013 16:43 GMT
#332
On December 06 2013 13:51 StarGalaxy wrote:
acutally the results/search isn't working

'twas fixed
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 09 2013 02:35 GMT
#333
So I looked up Aligulac on my desktop computer and it said jjakji is currently #16, then I looked it up on my phone and it had jjakji at #10 which got me all excited. I had to physically F5 the site on my desktop to get it to show the updated ratings, any insight on why this is?
jjakji fan
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 09 2013 06:30 GMT
#334
On December 09 2013 11:35 slowbacontron wrote:
So I looked up Aligulac on my desktop computer and it said jjakji is currently #16, then I looked it up on my phone and it had jjakji at #10 which got me all excited. I had to physically F5 the site on my desktop to get it to show the updated ratings, any insight on why this is?

Your desktop sucks. :-D
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#335
Wow I made it myself (with dad's help and money), thanks a lot T_T_T_T_T_;_;_;_;_;~~~~~ lol
jjakji fan
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 11 2013 05:58 GMT
#336
Happy birthday to us.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 11 2013 08:33 GMT
#337
Yay.
jjakji fan
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
December 19 2013 14:10 GMT
#338
Is there a way to search how many mirror match-ups are played per month for each race? The number of non-mirror match-ups can be calculated from balance report winrates and sample size, but not mirror ones. It would be really helpful to have a similar graph for mirror MUs. Otherwise, I have to go through all 100 lists to count them all, and that's not ideal as lists are not made monthly... Alternatively, search function like "all ZvZ between Nov.1st and Nov30" would do unless such thing already exists and I'm just dumb.
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 19 2013 18:23 GMT
#339
Currently no easy way exists for this. I've been thinking about implementing a feature that would contain this among other things.

If there's some specific months you'd like the numbers for I can probably compile a list for you.
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 20 2013 18:03 GMT
#340
Update on the above. It can be done through the API with the following steps:
  1. Get an api key from here: http://aligulac.com/about/api/
  2. Navigate to:
    http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=START_DATE&date__lt=END_DATE&rca=RACE_A&rcb=RACE_B&apikey=APIKEY
    where START_DATE and END_DATE are dates in yyyy-mm-dd format, RACE_A and RACE_B are the races of the players in the match and APIKEY is your api key from step 1.
  3. Look at the value of meta.total_count. It will contain the number of matches matching the above.


Example:

To get all PvPs in September this year.
Go to http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-09-01&date__lt=2013-10-01&rca=P&rcb=P&apikey=APIKEY.
As you can see, the count is 352.
{"meta": {"limit": 20, ... "total_count": 352} ... 


For easier viewing, use this Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jsonview/chklaanhfefbnpoihckbnefhakgolnmc

Bonus part:

If you have access to a unix like system you can run:
curl -s "URL" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'

where URL is the url above and it will output the number.
$ curl -s "http://aligulac.com/ ... &apikey=APIKEY" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'
352



Note that I did not claim that it was easy. However, this is the only way to grab the data for users (without downloading the database).
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
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