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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 20 2013 20:52 GMT
#341
On December 19 2013 23:10 Orek wrote:
Alternatively, search function like "all ZvZ between Nov.1st and Nov30" would do unless such thing already exists and I'm just dumb.

Like this?

http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=2013-11-01&before=2013-11-30&players=Z&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search

This will only search for current zerg players though. So you might pick up an old ZvP if the P has changed race later, or was offracing or whatever...
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
December 21 2013 12:39 GMT
#342
On December 21 2013 03:03 Prillan wrote:
Update on the above. It can be done through the API with the following steps:
  1. Get an api key from here: http://aligulac.com/about/api/
  2. Navigate to:
    http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=START_DATE&date__lt=END_DATE&rca=RACE_A&rcb=RACE_B&apikey=APIKEY
    where START_DATE and END_DATE are dates in yyyy-mm-dd format, RACE_A and RACE_B are the races of the players in the match and APIKEY is your api key from step 1.
  3. Look at the value of meta.total_count. It will contain the number of matches matching the above.


Example:

To get all PvPs in September this year.
Go to http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-09-01&date__lt=2013-10-01&rca=P&rcb=P&apikey=APIKEY.
As you can see, the count is 352.
{"meta": {"limit": 20, ... "total_count": 352} ... 


For easier viewing, use this Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jsonview/chklaanhfefbnpoihckbnefhakgolnmc

Bonus part:

If you have access to a unix like system you can run:
curl -s "URL" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'

where URL is the url above and it will output the number.
$ curl -s "http://aligulac.com/ ... &apikey=APIKEY" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'
352



Note that I did not claim that it was easy. However, this is the only way to grab the data for users (without downloading the database).

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I have tried it several times with different dates and races, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
For example,
http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-05-01&date__lt=2013-05-31&rca=Z&rcb=Z&apikey=APIKEY
is supposed to give me the number of ZvZ matches played during May 2013, and it says
meta: {limit: 20, ... total_count: 206} ... 

However, list 84 ( http://aligulac.com/periods/84/ ) says that 285 ZvZ games were played between May 2nd and May 15th 2013.
Non-mirror numbers don't seem to match numbers @ http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/ , either.

I'm trying to get these numbers because , frustrated to see nonsense in balance discussion, I am writing an article on current&historical SC2 balance based on Aligulac data among other things. It seems that the number of mirror games is correlated with the balance. (more PvP when P looks OP from other indicators.) So I thought it would be great to include mirror numbers if possible.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 13:18:49
December 21 2013 13:18 GMT
#343
There's a bug in the inference BBCode output for dual-tournament groups: the entries in the name column are in inverted order, so that the probabilities for the most likely to advance are in the same row as the name of the least likely to advance.

Take e.g. this prediction.
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 21 2013 17:23 GMT
#344
On December 21 2013 21:39 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 03:03 Prillan wrote:
Update on the above. It can be done through the API with the following steps:
  1. Get an api key from here: http://aligulac.com/about/api/
  2. Navigate to:
    http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=START_DATE&date__lt=END_DATE&rca=RACE_A&rcb=RACE_B&apikey=APIKEY
    where START_DATE and END_DATE are dates in yyyy-mm-dd format, RACE_A and RACE_B are the races of the players in the match and APIKEY is your api key from step 1.
  3. Look at the value of meta.total_count. It will contain the number of matches matching the above.


Example:

To get all PvPs in September this year.
Go to http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-09-01&date__lt=2013-10-01&rca=P&rcb=P&apikey=APIKEY.
As you can see, the count is 352.
{"meta": {"limit": 20, ... "total_count": 352} ... 


For easier viewing, use this Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jsonview/chklaanhfefbnpoihckbnefhakgolnmc

Bonus part:

If you have access to a unix like system you can run:
curl -s "URL" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'

where URL is the url above and it will output the number.
$ curl -s "http://aligulac.com/ ... &apikey=APIKEY" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'
352



Note that I did not claim that it was easy. However, this is the only way to grab the data for users (without downloading the database).

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I have tried it several times with different dates and races, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
For example,
http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-05-01&date__lt=2013-05-31&rca=Z&rcb=Z&apikey=APIKEY
is supposed to give me the number of ZvZ matches played during May 2013, and it says
meta: {limit: 20, ... total_count: 206} ... 

However, list 84 ( http://aligulac.com/periods/84/ ) says that 285 ZvZ games were played between May 2nd and May 15th 2013.
Non-mirror numbers don't seem to match numbers @ http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/ , either.

I'm trying to get these numbers because , frustrated to see nonsense in balance discussion, I am writing an article on current&historical SC2 balance based on Aligulac data among other things. It seems that the number of mirror games is correlated with the balance. (more PvP when P looks OP from other indicators.) So I thought it would be great to include mirror numbers if possible.


Yes, they won't match. The numbers on /periods/ are the number of games, not matches. Sorry for the confusion!
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 21 2013 17:38 GMT
#345
On December 21 2013 22:18 WigglingSquid wrote:
There's a bug in the inference BBCode output for dual-tournament groups: the entries in the name column are in inverted order, so that the probabilities for the most likely to advance are in the same row as the name of the least likely to advance.

Take e.g. this prediction.


Thank you, fixed!
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
December 22 2013 13:31 GMT
#346
On December 22 2013 02:23 Prillan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 21:39 Orek wrote:
On December 21 2013 03:03 Prillan wrote:
Update on the above. It can be done through the API with the following steps:
  1. Get an api key from here: http://aligulac.com/about/api/
  2. Navigate to:
    http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=START_DATE&date__lt=END_DATE&rca=RACE_A&rcb=RACE_B&apikey=APIKEY
    where START_DATE and END_DATE are dates in yyyy-mm-dd format, RACE_A and RACE_B are the races of the players in the match and APIKEY is your api key from step 1.
  3. Look at the value of meta.total_count. It will contain the number of matches matching the above.


Example:

To get all PvPs in September this year.
Go to http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-09-01&date__lt=2013-10-01&rca=P&rcb=P&apikey=APIKEY.
As you can see, the count is 352.
{"meta": {"limit": 20, ... "total_count": 352} ... 


For easier viewing, use this Chrome extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jsonview/chklaanhfefbnpoihckbnefhakgolnmc

Bonus part:

If you have access to a unix like system you can run:
curl -s "URL" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'

where URL is the url above and it will output the number.
$ curl -s "http://aligulac.com/ ... &apikey=APIKEY" | sed -e 's/.*total_count": \([0-9][0-9]*\).*/\1\n/'
352



Note that I did not claim that it was easy. However, this is the only way to grab the data for users (without downloading the database).

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. I have tried it several times with different dates and races, but I'm not sure if I'm doing it right.
For example,
http://aligulac.com/api/beta/match/?format=json&date__gte=2013-05-01&date__lt=2013-05-31&rca=Z&rcb=Z&apikey=APIKEY
is supposed to give me the number of ZvZ matches played during May 2013, and it says
meta: {limit: 20, ... total_count: 206} ... 

However, list 84 ( http://aligulac.com/periods/84/ ) says that 285 ZvZ games were played between May 2nd and May 15th 2013.
Non-mirror numbers don't seem to match numbers @ http://aligulac.com/reports/balance/ , either.

I'm trying to get these numbers because , frustrated to see nonsense in balance discussion, I am writing an article on current&historical SC2 balance based on Aligulac data among other things. It seems that the number of mirror games is correlated with the balance. (more PvP when P looks OP from other indicators.) So I thought it would be great to include mirror numbers if possible.


Yes, they won't match. The numbers on /periods/ are the number of games, not matches. Sorry for the confusion!

Does it mean that a single best of 3 series counts as 1 match yet 2 or 3 games?
So, if I understand it correctly, the numbers on /periods/ and balance reports are both games, and then the numbers on that API "total count" are matches?
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 22 2013 21:04 GMT
#347
Yes!
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
December 22 2013 22:45 GMT
#348
Server down for 20 minutes due to an upgrade (Bitcoin as an earnings type). No worries
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 14:31:17
December 23 2013 14:26 GMT
#349
There is a disagreement between Aligulac and Liquipedia in the categorization of the 2 tournaments that gave special seeds to the Up and Downs.

http://aligulac.com/results/events/14148-WCS-2013-Season-1-Korea-UpDown-Seed-Tournament/
vs.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Korea_OSL/Up_and_Down

and

http://aligulac.com/results/events/18063-WCS-2013-Season-2-Korea-Challenger-Special-Up'N'Down-Qualifier/
vs.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Korea_GSL/Up_and_Down

So Aligulac considers them to have happened 1 season before Liquipedia does. D: Should this be changed?

Also, it'd be nice to add the rest of the matches from the first tournament, which isn't complete on Aligulac yet, but the preceding image only has half of those matches. I don't know where to get the other half D:

E: I just realized the image doesn't have scores either Maybe they won't be added then.
jjakji fan
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 29 2013 19:36 GMT
#350
Do you count forfeit as a lose ? Didn't know that :o.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 29 2013 19:42 GMT
#351
On December 30 2013 04:36 Faust852 wrote:
Do you count forfeit as a lose ? Didn't know that :o.

A forfeit shouldn't count as a loss, generally it's not included in the database at all. If you see a match in here that wasn't actually played, please point it out so we can correct it!
jjakji fan
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 23:17:46
December 29 2013 23:17 GMT
#352
http://aligulac.com/results/events/23438-Punchline-Winter-Trophy/
I did submit the result without counting Hwangsin vs Hqrdest and Hyun vs GenjiTakiya in. I did specify it in the commentary section, saying they got defwin since Hyun and Hwangsin didn't show up.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
December 30 2013 00:07 GMT
#353
Interesting. I don't want to delete them too presumptuously since I'm not the one who approved the matches, but if there's no good explanation for including them they'll probably get deleted soon enough.
jjakji fan
Prillan
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden350 Posts
December 31 2013 12:50 GMT
#354
On December 30 2013 08:17 Faust852 wrote:
http://aligulac.com/results/events/23438-Punchline-Winter-Trophy/
I did submit the result without counting Hwangsin vs Hqrdest and Hyun vs GenjiTakiya in. I did specify it in the commentary section, saying they got defwin since Hyun and Hwangsin didn't show up.


Fixed! Thanks for the report! http://aligulac.com/results/events/23439-Punchline-Winter-Trophy-Ro32/
TheBB's sidekick, aligulac.com | "Reality is frequently inaccurate." - Douglas Adams
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 18:14:27
January 12 2014 18:13 GMT
#355
Some filtering options would be really nice. Specifically, options to filter ratings such that only proleague games are counted, or only foreign vs foreign games, or only Korean vs Korean, but really mostly just interested in ratings in a proleague-only filter

Also, is it possible to get aligulac to auto-update based on ladder results and provide an aligulac rating for ladder players, say, in gm and masters? It's an interesting idea, but I assume it would be either challenging or impossible depending on what data's available.
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-12 22:24:19
January 12 2014 21:41 GMT
#356
On January 13 2014 03:13 CutTheEnemy wrote:
Some filtering options would be really nice. Specifically, options to filter ratings such that only proleague games are counted, or only foreign vs foreign games, or only Korean vs Korean, but really mostly just interested in ratings in a proleague-only filter

Also, is it possible to get aligulac to auto-update based on ladder results and provide an aligulac rating for ladder players, say, in gm and masters? It's an interesting idea, but I assume it would be either challenging or impossible depending on what data's available.

You want a rating that ONLY counts proleague games? That would not really be that interesting due to the relative small sample size, anything other than simple win%'s would be more or less useless.

With regards to ladderratings, I'm not sure how interesting this would be:
[image loading]

Personally I think the GM ladder shows what you want to see already. Not sure on what types of data can be pulled from battle.net though.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#357
On January 13 2014 03:13 CutTheEnemy wrote:
Some filtering options would be really nice. Specifically, options to filter ratings such that only proleague games are counted, or only foreign vs foreign games, or only Korean vs Korean, but really mostly just interested in ratings in a proleague-only filter

Recomputing ratings is a nontrivial problem and takes a fair amount of time. If we want to provide such filters we have to account for all the options and have the numbers ready ahead of time. Right now the ratings are refreshed every six hours and it takes about 20-30 minutes each time (maybe about 10-20 of that is in actual rating updates). In addition to that I feel the idea kind of cheapens the idea of the rating system in the first place. The main rating loses some value if people can cherrypick parameters to make it show what they want it to show.

In short, it's doable with some work, but not on a large scale and frankly I'm not so keen on the idea.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
January 20 2014 09:33 GMT
#358
Liking the rivalries tab! It's really entertaining.and pretty informative on what kind of players certain players play.
jjakji fan
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
January 27 2014 07:00 GMT
#359
Noticed a (minor) bug on your reports page. if you clear all 3 plots, the axis is off when you add them again. Screeny: http://i.imgur.com/M48MKny.png
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 09 2014 07:53 GMT
#360
Any info on when Aligulac will be back up?
jjakji fan
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