EPTCloud Retires from SC2 - Page 8
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gh0un
601 Posts
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
My question might be slightly offensive to you, but it really isn't meant as any kind of troll or irony - I just want a bit more selfreflection from your part. I remember when I watched you play in the earlier stages of sc2 (say first 6-9 months post-release). It semed that you quite consistently would have trouble spending your money. Often times you would havel like 3k unspent or something ridiclous like that (admittely it wasn't over a huge sample size, but I think I watched like 5 games in a row of you I noticed very high average unspent ressources). This surprised me because I knew you were a BW gamer and I would expect former BW games to at least get the macro thing right. Later on, you improved your macro and i didn't notice anything late 2011-. But I would like to ask you why you had trouble with macro back then? How much did you practice early post release (like average game per day?). Or do you think I am totally wrong with my claim that your macro wasn't very good? | ||
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Garmer
1286 Posts
yeah it's arrogant but it's the right mentality | ||
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
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mYiKane
Canada1772 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On March 19 2013 05:05 Hider wrote: Hey Cloud My question might be slightly offensive to you, but it really isn't meant as any kind of troll or irony - I just want a bit more selfreflection from your part. I remember when I watched you play in the earlier stages of sc2 (say first 6-9 months post-release). It semed that you quite consistently would have trouble spending your money. Often times you would havel like 3k unspent or something ridiclous like that (admittely it wasn't over a huge sample size, but I think I watched like 5 games in a row of you I noticed very high average unspent ressources). This surprised me because I knew you were a BW gamer and I would expect former BW games to at least get the macro thing right. Later on, you improved your macro and i didn't notice anything late 2011-. But I would like to ask you why you had trouble with macro back then? How much did you practice early post release (like average game per day?). Or do you think I am totally wrong with my claim that your macro wasn't very good? It's a legit question and it's something I found very odd from my part aswell. I reflected on it and realized that it happened for 2 reasons. First I was so used to the Protoss building times back in Brood War that I would actually slip consinstently and remember to produce only within SC1 timings. I worked hard on this and eventually I got used to the SC2 terran timings, which are a lot faster. The second reason was that the game was new to me and I wasn't playing a lot, and good mechanics only come with lots of practice. I just had overall a very bad mentality and it took me a few months too long before adjusting my macro, but eventually I was able to fix this. | ||
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testthewest
Germany274 Posts
On March 19 2013 05:08 Garmer wrote: yeah it's arrogant but it's the right mentality Not so sure about that. If you are really that good, people will see it, without you having to tell them. A Lionel Messi doesn't have to brag all day. Telling how good you could have been, should you have cared is just weak. I could also say: "I could have beaten every korean at Starcraft - but I simply wasn't interested, I rather studied got a wife and enjoy my life now, earning enough to see the world." But wouldn't that be very arrogant even if true? | ||
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Brett
Australia3823 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On March 19 2013 05:36 testthewest wrote: Not so sure about that. If you are really that good, people will see it, without you having to tell them. A Lionel Messi doesn't have to brag all day. Telling how good you could have been, should you have cared is just weak. I could also say: "I could have beaten every korean at Starcraft - but I simply wasn't interested, I rather studied got a wife and enjoy my life now, earning enough to see the world." But wouldn't that be very arrogant even if true? Don't read too much in what I said. I just wrote how I felt about it and I wasn't bragging, but just explaining my feelings between playing SC1 and SC2 and how this didn't make me enjoy the second game. If what I said is true or not doesn't matter because in the end only facts matter, and that's also a good reason to never give words like this too much weight. What I wanted to underline were my feelings towards the game and the way they changed my approach when I became a professional player in SC2. I was also very negative in the beginning of my SC2 career and playing this game helped me realize how important is to be positive and optimistic towards yourself and the others. This is one of the biggest changes I had in my life. I understand some people just saw some negativity some time ago but I was able to change this part of me in the last months and I'm really happy about it. In the end I consider my career good but not brilliant at all, and it proved to be way better as a life experience than as a job. I'm totally fine with this and I'm a bit confused at the people trying to say I wasn't among the top SC2 progamers when I never thought I was in the first place. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
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WikidSik
Canada382 Posts
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CactusSC2
United States61 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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DisillusionedAcronym
190 Posts
good luck to you, cloud. wish you the best with whatever you do and thank you for some very entertaining games | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
I'm having trouble finding major tournament achievements. Or did no one update his wins? If this is all, then sorry, he was never a top foreigner, let alone world class. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27441 Posts
Did you ever consider trying your hand at more casting or other non-playing roles? | ||
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Deleted User 183001
2939 Posts
Also, when you get into your mid-late 20s, you really have to work on your long-term future. Sadly, professional gaming isn't that future that goes beyonds your 20s (if that) except for very few people. It's sad to see a long-time SC player go, but he's at a time where he needs to be concentrating on his life. Can't argue with that. Good luck, Cloud! | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Poetry
United States105 Posts
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