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Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:33:49
March 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#601
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:36:27
March 01 2013 11:35 GMT
#602
I would do that all the time. GSL is not a tournament its rather a league witch takes months until you get in the money ranks.
And as foreigners its a very hard time, your seperated from your family/friends, you dont understand the language and you got to spend a lot of money to live there. And all that for what? The very low chance to win something? To play against korean names the fewest of your fans ever heard of?

IEM in contrast is a real tournnament, you got realistic chances to get something out of it and you fans can actually watch it.

And lets face it: SC2 wont exist forever. As a pro you loose so much precious time you could have spend in a proper job or education. Thats all a lot of lost time and money. Your future employer will most likely not care about you playing computer games professional in the best case. In worst case he will not hire you cause you wasted years of playing "childish games".
--> As a progamer you must get out money in that time, thats what matters.
Germany
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
March 01 2013 11:48 GMT
#603
Some of you forgot what IEM World Championship Finals are.
Would have been disappointed if Stephano canceled on this.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 01 2013 11:52 GMT
#604
Official word from EG

evoli wrote:
When Alex gets up I'm going to try and talk him into buying the other teams in our group, and from there we'll make them forfeit too. The way I see it is, if all the other players forfeit and Ilyes forfeits first he should place at the head of the pack.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19gh6t/stephano_to_not_forfeit_spl_updowns_from_evoli/c8nsvb1
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:56:25
March 01 2013 11:56 GMT
#605
On March 01 2013 20:33 Bjarne wrote:
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(

Actually there is a subtle diffrence
Grubby was never put in the schedule and we got official word from GOM and they took it into account. Remember the 49code A spots?
Stephano was put in the schedule, even his teammate assumed he would play and suddenly he announces on twitter he aint going to.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 12:33:39
March 01 2013 12:33 GMT
#606
So will the "Stephano does NOT forfeit SPL & Up/Downs" thread also be a headline? Let's please just forget this whole matter...^^
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
March 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#607
Can't blame Stephano for it I think. Players are profs who do what is best for them within the rules. GomTV should just take this as a lesson and stop seeding foreigners.I'd prefer zero seeds but if some have to be there I rather see they give a seed to an up and coming Korean kid who has been working his ass of but has not made it through the preliminaries for some reason.

Hope they do remove Stephano from Code A though. Gives an extra slot for qualifications.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
March 01 2013 12:52 GMT
#608
Just because people are hating on Stephano for quitting, calling him "coward" or whatnot, does not make them Stephano-haters.

By logic, they are Stephano fans, who want to see their foreign hero succeed in the highest caliber tournament in the world.

The real haters are happy that he's looking like a coward right about now.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
March 01 2013 12:54 GMT
#609
aw, that really sucks! i guess this is one consequence of having too many sc2 tournaments going on at once.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
March 01 2013 12:54 GMT
#610
On March 01 2013 20:52 StarVe wrote:
Official word from EG

Show nested quote +
evoli wrote:
When Alex gets up I'm going to try and talk him into buying the other teams in our group, and from there we'll make them forfeit too. The way I see it is, if all the other players forfeit and Ilyes forfeits first he should place at the head of the pack.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19gh6t/stephano_to_not_forfeit_spl_updowns_from_evoli/c8nsvb1



So, 31 pages of hate for nothing?

NIIIIICCCCCCEEEEEEEEE! =)

K guys, well see what happens.

I´ll watch U&D with or without Stephano, same as IEM...

MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
March 01 2013 13:03 GMT
#611
On March 01 2013 20:56 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:33 Bjarne wrote:
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(

Actually there is a subtle diffrence
Grubby was never put in the schedule and we got official word from GOM and they took it into account. Remember the 49code A spots?
Stephano was put in the schedule, even his teammate assumed he would play and suddenly he announces on twitter he aint going to.


I second that.
Don't get me wrong, I like Stephanos play a lot. But that's exactly what Stephano does, being unprofessional. I know he says it's his "style" to not train a lot etc. But I think he could really do a lot better (as he is already awesome that means being a GSL champion) if he starts growing up.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
March 01 2013 13:03 GMT
#612
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 13:07 GMT
#613
Should this thread be close since hes not forfeiting? Or retitled?
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Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
March 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#614
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
March 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#615
Yeah. Don't give foreigners seeds anymore. This is a joke.

Sure GSL is hard. Gaming is hard. Nobody else cares about financial standpoints in these situations. This is about playing leagues people are counting you to play. Some people might have purchased GSL tickets to watch foreigners play, but they continuously FF.

Sure, Stephano wants to make some money at IEM, but there isn't even a for sure chance of that to be honest. Odds are against him making real money at IEM, so why pass this up?

W/e, only solution is to stop giving people special treatment. Polt FF's his spot because he leaves Korea? Then put Polt on a probation period and give his spot to the next available candidate instead of to a random foreigner who is just going to drop out anyways because they don't feel it's important.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 01 2013 13:27 GMT
#616
Whenever I will be annoyed why people don't release informations to the public, I will think about this thread.

Now I am worried though, not dropping out of UnD mean he might dance on 3 parties, but maybe Stephano needs that to play well.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 13:44:23
March 01 2013 13:43 GMT
#617
On March 01 2013 22:08 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...

So he wins 1 bo1 and loses the next.
Wait, why is this relevant again?
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
March 01 2013 14:09 GMT
#618
On March 01 2013 22:43 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 22:08 Bjarne wrote:
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...

So he wins 1 bo1 and loses the next.
Wait, why is this relevant again?


Every game that foreigners win against Koreans is a HUGE deal.
They can have weeks without a Korean defeat, but once a Korean name gets knocked out by a foreigner they get Code S status for life.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 14:31:13
March 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#619
This should really bring the respect level up for Idra, Jinro, Huk, TLO, Ret, Haypro etc. These guys actually honored what it meant to be playing Starcraft in Korea and to practice and prepare and actually care about what it is to be a Progamer in the way Koreans do. I especially respect Jinro and Idra for this because he lived on his own in Korea, qualified, and actually made his way through the tournament all the way to ro16/ro8/ro4. That has truly never been matched by any other foreigners in my opinion. The rest of the guys mentioned also at least had respect and performed reasonably well too. (Huk more so than others but yeah).

I think the "newer generation" of SC2 players just don't have the same regard and work ethic for becoming a Korean Style progamer like the BW foreigners did. And why would they? Huge salaries, EFame, Instant Sponsors for basically doing nothing of note. What did Idra have when he started doing well in BW? Motivation and Passion and thats about it. And I'm not an Idra fanboy by any means I barely even watch his games, but you have to give him a lot of respect compared to a player like Stephano.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#620
On March 01 2013 22:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Should this thread be close since hes not forfeiting? Or retitled?


It should, people are still complaining here...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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