• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:54
CEST 16:54
KST 23:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW General Discussion BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Why Gold players stay stuck: 3 patterns I've seen [TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12926 users

[Correction] Stephano to play Up/Downs - Page 31

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 38 Next All
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:33:49
March 01 2013 11:33 GMT
#601
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:36:27
March 01 2013 11:35 GMT
#602
I would do that all the time. GSL is not a tournament its rather a league witch takes months until you get in the money ranks.
And as foreigners its a very hard time, your seperated from your family/friends, you dont understand the language and you got to spend a lot of money to live there. And all that for what? The very low chance to win something? To play against korean names the fewest of your fans ever heard of?

IEM in contrast is a real tournnament, you got realistic chances to get something out of it and you fans can actually watch it.

And lets face it: SC2 wont exist forever. As a pro you loose so much precious time you could have spend in a proper job or education. Thats all a lot of lost time and money. Your future employer will most likely not care about you playing computer games professional in the best case. In worst case he will not hire you cause you wasted years of playing "childish games".
--> As a progamer you must get out money in that time, thats what matters.
Germany
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
March 01 2013 11:48 GMT
#603
Some of you forgot what IEM World Championship Finals are.
Would have been disappointed if Stephano canceled on this.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 01 2013 11:52 GMT
#604
Official word from EG

evoli wrote:
When Alex gets up I'm going to try and talk him into buying the other teams in our group, and from there we'll make them forfeit too. The way I see it is, if all the other players forfeit and Ilyes forfeits first he should place at the head of the pack.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19gh6t/stephano_to_not_forfeit_spl_updowns_from_evoli/c8nsvb1
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 11:56:25
March 01 2013 11:56 GMT
#605
On March 01 2013 20:33 Bjarne wrote:
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(

Actually there is a subtle diffrence
Grubby was never put in the schedule and we got official word from GOM and they took it into account. Remember the 49code A spots?
Stephano was put in the schedule, even his teammate assumed he would play and suddenly he announces on twitter he aint going to.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 12:33:39
March 01 2013 12:33 GMT
#606
So will the "Stephano does NOT forfeit SPL & Up/Downs" thread also be a headline? Let's please just forget this whole matter...^^
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
March 01 2013 12:42 GMT
#607
Can't blame Stephano for it I think. Players are profs who do what is best for them within the rules. GomTV should just take this as a lesson and stop seeding foreigners.I'd prefer zero seeds but if some have to be there I rather see they give a seed to an up and coming Korean kid who has been working his ass of but has not made it through the preliminaries for some reason.

Hope they do remove Stephano from Code A though. Gives an extra slot for qualifications.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
March 01 2013 12:52 GMT
#608
Just because people are hating on Stephano for quitting, calling him "coward" or whatnot, does not make them Stephano-haters.

By logic, they are Stephano fans, who want to see their foreign hero succeed in the highest caliber tournament in the world.

The real haters are happy that he's looking like a coward right about now.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
March 01 2013 12:54 GMT
#609
aw, that really sucks! i guess this is one consequence of having too many sc2 tournaments going on at once.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
March 01 2013 12:54 GMT
#610
On March 01 2013 20:52 StarVe wrote:
Official word from EG

Show nested quote +
evoli wrote:
When Alex gets up I'm going to try and talk him into buying the other teams in our group, and from there we'll make them forfeit too. The way I see it is, if all the other players forfeit and Ilyes forfeits first he should place at the head of the pack.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19gh6t/stephano_to_not_forfeit_spl_updowns_from_evoli/c8nsvb1



So, 31 pages of hate for nothing?

NIIIIICCCCCCEEEEEEEEE! =)

K guys, well see what happens.

I´ll watch U&D with or without Stephano, same as IEM...

MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
March 01 2013 13:03 GMT
#611
On March 01 2013 20:56 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 20:33 Bjarne wrote:
Oh man, this community.... sometimes......aaaargh!!

Grubby forfeits: Nothing happend

Stephano forfeits: 30 page with 90% hate.

Anybody realising?

Stephano is just a SC2-player, he does what he thinks is best for him. LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER.
Most herp derps complaining about Stephano would do 100% the same in his situation!

btw: Sad for Taeja. He deserved his shot in the finals...=(

Actually there is a subtle diffrence
Grubby was never put in the schedule and we got official word from GOM and they took it into account. Remember the 49code A spots?
Stephano was put in the schedule, even his teammate assumed he would play and suddenly he announces on twitter he aint going to.


I second that.
Don't get me wrong, I like Stephanos play a lot. But that's exactly what Stephano does, being unprofessional. I know he says it's his "style" to not train a lot etc. But I think he could really do a lot better (as he is already awesome that means being a GSL champion) if he starts growing up.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
March 01 2013 13:03 GMT
#612
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 01 2013 13:07 GMT
#613
Should this thread be close since hes not forfeiting? Or retitled?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Bjarne
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany192 Posts
March 01 2013 13:08 GMT
#614
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...
MMA II DeMuslim II MKP II JD II IdrA II HuK II Leenock II Stephano II
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
March 01 2013 13:26 GMT
#615
Yeah. Don't give foreigners seeds anymore. This is a joke.

Sure GSL is hard. Gaming is hard. Nobody else cares about financial standpoints in these situations. This is about playing leagues people are counting you to play. Some people might have purchased GSL tickets to watch foreigners play, but they continuously FF.

Sure, Stephano wants to make some money at IEM, but there isn't even a for sure chance of that to be honest. Odds are against him making real money at IEM, so why pass this up?

W/e, only solution is to stop giving people special treatment. Polt FF's his spot because he leaves Korea? Then put Polt on a probation period and give his spot to the next available candidate instead of to a random foreigner who is just going to drop out anyways because they don't feel it's important.
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 01 2013 13:27 GMT
#616
Whenever I will be annoyed why people don't release informations to the public, I will think about this thread.

Now I am worried though, not dropping out of UnD mean he might dance on 3 parties, but maybe Stephano needs that to play well.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 13:44:23
March 01 2013 13:43 GMT
#617
On March 01 2013 22:08 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...

So he wins 1 bo1 and loses the next.
Wait, why is this relevant again?
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
March 01 2013 14:09 GMT
#618
On March 01 2013 22:43 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 22:08 Bjarne wrote:
On March 01 2013 22:03 redviper wrote:
Honestly I am surprised there is such an uproar about it. Stephano is a no impact player in gsl and spl both. Him forfeiting the up and downs just saves us from watching a bunch of one sided games. Good luck to Steph in iem. But there are some Koreans there also!



LOL, amusing.
Your Team icon is LG-IM

In the last team-battle at IPTL, Stephano won against his LG IM opponent...

One sided games must not mean that Stephano looses them...

So he wins 1 bo1 and loses the next.
Wait, why is this relevant again?


Every game that foreigners win against Koreans is a HUGE deal.
They can have weeks without a Korean defeat, but once a Korean name gets knocked out by a foreigner they get Code S status for life.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 14:31:13
March 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#619
This should really bring the respect level up for Idra, Jinro, Huk, TLO, Ret, Haypro etc. These guys actually honored what it meant to be playing Starcraft in Korea and to practice and prepare and actually care about what it is to be a Progamer in the way Koreans do. I especially respect Jinro and Idra for this because he lived on his own in Korea, qualified, and actually made his way through the tournament all the way to ro16/ro8/ro4. That has truly never been matched by any other foreigners in my opinion. The rest of the guys mentioned also at least had respect and performed reasonably well too. (Huk more so than others but yeah).

I think the "newer generation" of SC2 players just don't have the same regard and work ethic for becoming a Korean Style progamer like the BW foreigners did. And why would they? Huge salaries, EFame, Instant Sponsors for basically doing nothing of note. What did Idra have when he started doing well in BW? Motivation and Passion and thats about it. And I'm not an Idra fanboy by any means I barely even watch his games, but you have to give him a lot of respect compared to a player like Stephano.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
March 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#620
On March 01 2013 22:07 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Should this thread be close since hes not forfeiting? Or retitled?


It should, people are still complaining here...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 38 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Summer Cup Playoffs
WardiTV1227
IntoTheiNu 978
TKL 344
TaKeTV 318
Rex122
EmSc2Tv 44
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 344
Rex 122
EmSc Tv 44
trigger 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 41529
Calm 6358
Sea 3186
firebathero 1256
Mini 949
EffOrt 848
BeSt 673
Soma 567
Larva 440
Rush 256
[ Show more ]
Stork 237
ggaemo 155
hero 124
Hyun 118
Last 108
Dewaltoss 103
Sharp 74
Pusan 50
sorry 42
ToSsGirL 37
Sexy 33
Rock 14
IntoTheRainbow 12
Dota 2
Gorgc9917
Dendi775
XcaliburYe58
febbydoto6
Counter-Strike
fl0m3865
byalli499
Other Games
singsing1950
FrodaN1157
B2W.Neo1011
Beastyqt824
crisheroes287
ToD180
Hui .163
Fuzer 146
DeMusliM137
Liquid`VortiX126
QueenE53
RotterdaM26
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 44
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 14
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2574
• WagamamaTV609
League of Legends
• Jankos1869
• Nemesis1424
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
9h 6m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 6m
RSL Revival
18h 6m
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21h 6m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W5
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSLAN 4
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.