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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 20:35 GMT
#241
On March 01 2013 05:33 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:26 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:21 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:
[quote]

Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.


The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.


That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.

"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"

too bad stephano could have played in both if he moved his flight a few hours lol

you wanna pay a couple grand to do that?

considering he has PL too, eg probably would be able to


And PL is a team league, so some other memeber of the team can fill in.


But is it even possible, does kespa allow that ?


Well considering people get sick, fall down and have parents and family who die, I am sure they have a system for when people have to cancel.


who's speculating now?

was it best or something who had a situation with family? i remember reading about it.
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
February 28 2013 20:36 GMT
#242
On March 01 2013 05:27 Otis Jenkins wrote:
I don't get it. GOM said they took every other tournament schedule in consideration when making groups / scheduling GSL matches. So Why on earth was Stephano scheduled to play 1 before day IEM...

He was scheduled March 4th in GSL and March 7th in IEM. What should they do, cancel 2 full weeks of games around every IEM, MLG, Dreamhack, Assembly, IPL?
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 20:50:14
February 28 2013 20:36 GMT
#243
Disappointing but it makes complete sense to me from his, and his team's probable perspective.

I'll cheer for him at IEM.

Decision made, no need to dwell.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 28 2013 20:37 GMT
#244
I Elect Money > Go Starve, Loser
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2013 20:37 GMT
#245
On March 01 2013 05:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:21 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:59 Plansix wrote:
[quote]
And Rain never should have tried to qualify if he wasn't going to play EVERY SINGLE GAME. Same with Grubby. They should be banned forever and never allowed in GSL for leaving. They should walk to the other side of the street if they see a GSL player or caster, head bowed in shame. If Huk forfits a match because he is going to his own wedding, banned for life. You play every single game, that is how passion works.

Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D
Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.


Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.


The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.


That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.

"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"

too bad stephano could have played in both if he moved his flight a few hours lol

you wanna pay a couple grand to do that?

considering he has PL too, eg probably would be able to


That sounds like a terrible plan and a waste of money. And PL is a team league, so some other memeber of the team can fill in.

has never happened before and i don't see kespa accomodating.


Well then its the coaches fault for not being aware of the Stephano's upcoming events. Who is the coach of EGTL again? Didn't they team up with some ex-Kespa coach, who should know better than to set his players up for a match when they are not going to be in Korea?
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 28 2013 20:40 GMT
#246
On March 01 2013 05:37 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:31 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:21 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:
[quote]
Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D
Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.


Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.


The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.


That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.

"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"

too bad stephano could have played in both if he moved his flight a few hours lol

you wanna pay a couple grand to do that?

considering he has PL too, eg probably would be able to


That sounds like a terrible plan and a waste of money. And PL is a team league, so some other memeber of the team can fill in.

has never happened before and i don't see kespa accomodating.


Well then its the coaches fault for not being aware of the Stephano's upcoming events. Who is the coach of EGTL again? Didn't they team up with some ex-Kespa coach, who should know better than to set his players up for a match when they are not going to be in Korea?

very possible, poor play from eg management, especially since incontrol did post in the up/down thead to cheer for stepano
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1402 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 20:42:24
February 28 2013 20:40 GMT
#247
So now EG-TL has to take a free loss in PL because Stephano would rather earn the big bucks than fulfill the promises he made to GOM and KeSPA. Unholy Alliance was a bad idea from the beginning for TL, just tarnishing their good reputation and commitment by being associated with an organization as paltry and laughable as EG.

Oh well, at least Stephano fanboys can rejoice because they'll have an excuse for his meteoric plummet into Code B.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
February 28 2013 20:41 GMT
#248
Another failed korean adventure. You'd wish the 'best foreigner' actually had the competitive spirit to keep playing in the highest level of competition, I figured that's why EG was paying him his salary in the first place.

Back to winning the occassional foreign tournament I'm guessing.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 28 2013 20:42 GMT
#249
On March 01 2013 05:26 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:21 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:
[quote]
Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D
Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.


Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.


The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.


That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.

"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"

too bad stephano could have played in both if he moved his flight a few hours lol

you wanna pay a couple grand to do that?

considering he has PL too, eg probably would be able to


And PL is a team league, so some other memeber of the team can fill in.


But is it even possible, does kespa allow that ?


Well considering people get sick, fall down and have parents and family who die, I am sure they have a system for when people have to cancel.

That is completely different tough, you do not choose that stuff.
When you willingly do not go to a tournament those rules shouldn't apply to you, its completely unfair as well to the team they are playing against as well.
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
February 28 2013 20:42 GMT
#250
Bah :S
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Wyrd
Profile Joined May 2011
United States211 Posts
February 28 2013 20:42 GMT
#251
TT It's a shame, but I kind of expected it. I'm sure that the GSL will be happy to welcome him back into the next season, if Stephano hasn't made $2 mil by then and gone off to med school.
www.twitch.tv/wyrd5
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1402 Posts
February 28 2013 20:43 GMT
#252
On March 01 2013 05:37 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 05:31 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 05:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 opterown wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:21 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:15 Dingodile wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:05 Dingodile wrote:
[quote]
Looks like real-life doesnt exists :D
Please tell me you are not serious about the wedding.


Of course I'm not serious at all. I am mocking the people who are freaking out about Stephano forfiting a qualifying match for one event to go play in the World Championship for another event. If this were anythign else but GSL, no one would care. But for some reason, if the GSL set a match for the same date you were already planning to go to another event, you should cancel your plans and play in GSL.


The dates for World Champions are known for months... and we had many code a ro24 games in this and last week, but no Stephano has to play in the same week like WC.


That is the real problem, it is an embarrassment that the GSL cannot find a calendar or go to TL and click on the “Upcoming Events” tab. Artosis knows how to use TL, he could show them how and then they could avoid this problem in the future.

"Now see these dates? Don't set the matchs for the white guy on these dates and he can attend. Got it?"

too bad stephano could have played in both if he moved his flight a few hours lol

you wanna pay a couple grand to do that?

considering he has PL too, eg probably would be able to


That sounds like a terrible plan and a waste of money. And PL is a team league, so some other memeber of the team can fill in.

has never happened before and i don't see kespa accomodating.


Well then its the coaches fault for not being aware of the Stephano's upcoming events. Who is the coach of EGTL again? Didn't they team up with some ex-Kespa coach, who should know better than to set his players up for a match when they are not going to be in Korea?


GOM's fault!
EG's fault!
Airlines' fault!

I wonder when you're going to blame the person that decided to forfeit.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
February 28 2013 20:44 GMT
#253
On March 01 2013 05:26 Xulatis wrote:
The worst decision out of everything is, that they didn't delay the up and downs for 2 or 3 weeks and then make them HotS to begin with. Next season is played in HotS anyways, so it doesn't make the smallest sense that U&D are in WoL.

There are already full tournaments running HotS (see IEM), even before HotS is released. I don't get it, why GOM doesn't do it the same way...

Because that one part has to do HoTS for their code S spots and the other WoL. Do you not see the massive problem here?
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
February 28 2013 20:45 GMT
#254
sucks he wont get to play, hopefully he qualifies when he gets back to Korea
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
February 28 2013 20:46 GMT
#255
Makes sense. More chance to get $$$ from IEM, and still gets paid by EG. GSL is way hard work.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
February 28 2013 20:47 GMT
#256
On March 01 2013 05:41 Derez wrote:
Another failed korean adventure. You'd wish the 'best foreigner' actually had the competitive spirit to keep playing in the highest level of competition, I figured that's why EG was paying him his salary in the first place.

Back to winning the occassional foreign tournament I'm guessing.


That's not actually why EG pays, it just happens to go hand in hand. EG pays for big name players
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1402 Posts
February 28 2013 20:49 GMT
#257
Why does Stephano have fans again? The amount of shit that he's collectively excused for is kind of amazing. I guess the fact that there's a white person that can beat Koreans a tiny fraction of the time is so mind-blowing to people that they can't just admit that he's an asshole and start rooting for players that deserve the good will.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
February 28 2013 20:50 GMT
#258
Very predictable, but none the less disappointing behavior from a team so heavily invested into Proleague/GSL. I can't imagine the Korean teammates finding this acceptable either. Not very professional or respectful.

I think this just shows things to come. I think slowly you are going to see more and more foreign teams and events pull away from Korea and separate to some extent. More White kids playing each other to "grow esports" (obv its not going to work that way). It was a big enough disparity with ESF vs the world, and now add the Kespa players into the mix and there's no way foreigners can compete on any meaningful level for teams to keep profit and the scene growing.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#259
It's just business guys. Chill.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#260
On March 01 2013 05:49 LightSpectra wrote:
Why does Stephano have fans again? The amount of shit that he's collectively excused for is kind of amazing. I guess the fact that there's a white person that can beat Koreans a tiny fraction of the time is so mind-blowing to people that they can't just admit that he's an asshole and start rooting for players that deserve the good will.

Pretty sure the team would have a reasonable degree in deciding what their player plays in, it's as much EG's fault as Stephano's.
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