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[Interview] Code A Ro32 Day 1 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 3

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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 13 2013 17:04 GMT
#41
I must admit I love Flash in this interview.

"I didn't realise there were a ton of turrets there and I looked away and lost 30 supply. But its ok, because that meant I freed up supply for more units!"


And how everyone else uses the "final comments" question to thank everyone and make callouts whilst he just says that he's getting into Code S regardless of who he has to fight next. X-D
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CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
February 13 2013 17:10 GMT
#42
You scouted your opponent's proxy two rax in agme one.

It was the end of WoL so I wans't practicing it


Not sure how you feel about corrections.. hehe.. thanks a lot though, gogo Flash!!

:D

~ The Ultimate Weapon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 13 2013 18:08 GMT
#43
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#44
On February 14 2013 01:00 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:58 Elite_ wrote:
HyuN losing a lot on HotS... Literally no Zerg players doing well on ladder... There must be some issues with balance...

That means there's probably going to be a Zerg that copies FruitDealer's WoL run in HotS by winning next season of GSL when Zerg is close to impossible to win with at the highest level...

Zergs are also losing very one sided series at MLG qualifiers, 1-7 so far. David Kim says everything is OK though, Hydralisks are a huge success apparently.


Well, to be fair, I am not sure whether MLG qualifiers are the best indication right now. Most of the players haven't had much experience with it. And I think the zerg meta has changed the most.

If you look at TvZ (since I follow terrans most closely), in WoL, the T meta was about playing as greedy as possible without getting roach/bane busted while trying to damage the zerg eco so they can't over run you with bane/ling/muta or build up their infestor/BL army. And if they do get infestor/BL, the terran need to have enough vikings and kill the BLs before corruptors come out. If zerg gets to 4 (or 5 base) with their deathball, the chances of winning were about 10-15%.

If you look at HoTS, terran has more options in terms of eco damage (hellbat drops) and hard counters for lings (tanks were actually not that effective to counter lings unless they were behind depots). So the sitting back style is not as effective as before. Drops are also super strong now. Toward the end of WoL, the top pro zergs were just too good when dealing with drops. I don't think MMA 'forgot' how to multi drop. But with creep and the high level of the top zergs, drops just weren't cost effective.
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If you watch the Mvp vs Curious series, you will see that having 20 lings to run under the drop ship is not long sufficient for defense like it would have been for a 8 marine/maruader drop in WoL


I think zergs have to find ways to deal damage in the mid game now as well instead of teching to T3 super quick (will be interested to see how the top zergs handle the new mutas).

But it is try that zergs are struggling the most. But whether we need to make change, I think we need to see a bit more games after the players have had a change to practice couple months. Because like the queens change before, terrans had no idea how to play once they couldn't attack early and couldn't contain creep.

Personally, I would like to see a halt in tournaments for a couple months so players can adjust. But this is just not feasible in terms of marketing and building interest for HoTS. So I think we should just sit back and enjoy some 'creative' plays and maybe someone using an OP build to win tournaments (like the start of WoL). But I am sure it will settle down much faster compare to WoL because the quality of players are much higher (eSF, Kespa and foreigners)
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:19:03
February 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#45
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#46
Anything else you would like to say?

I will make it to Code S regardless of who my round three opponent turns out to be and make good results.


Boss mode activate.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:29:27
February 13 2013 18:28 GMT
#47
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2013 18:33 GMT
#48
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#49
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
Show nested quote +
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
Show nested quote +
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2013 21:03 GMT
#50
On February 14 2013 05:55 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^


Mind control needs a nerf though
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
February 13 2013 21:41 GMT
#51
On February 14 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:55 Seeker wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^


Mind control needs a nerf though

Every time I heard about mind control, it's always the winner, never the loser. Obviously it's OP, it has a 100% win rate.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 13 2013 22:24 GMT
#52
Thanks Seeker for your monster effort.

Pretty happy with all the winners today =D
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VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
February 13 2013 23:00 GMT
#53
On February 14 2013 03:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.


Or maybe he is saying "KeSPA players have caught up, the stampede is coming".
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2013 23:01 GMT
#54
On February 14 2013 08:00 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:33 vthree wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.


Or maybe he is saying "KeSPA players have caught up, the stampede is coming".

oh please quit it with this elephant talk =.=
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