• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:59
CEST 05:59
KST 12:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview5[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris38Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
#2: Serral - Greatest Players of All Time #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update BoxeR's Wings Episode 2 - Fan Translation
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Kirktown Chat Brawl #8 - 4.6K max Tonight LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Easiest luckies way to get out of Asl groups BW General Discussion No Rain in ASL20?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro24 Group F Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 920 users

[Interview] Code A Ro32 Day 1 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 13 2013 17:04 GMT
#41
I must admit I love Flash in this interview.

"I didn't realise there were a ton of turrets there and I looked away and lost 30 supply. But its ok, because that meant I freed up supply for more units!"


And how everyone else uses the "final comments" question to thank everyone and make callouts whilst he just says that he's getting into Code S regardless of who he has to fight next. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
February 13 2013 17:10 GMT
#42
You scouted your opponent's proxy two rax in agme one.

It was the end of WoL so I wans't practicing it


Not sure how you feel about corrections.. hehe.. thanks a lot though, gogo Flash!!

:D

~ The Ultimate Weapon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 13 2013 18:08 GMT
#43
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#44
On February 14 2013 01:00 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:58 Elite_ wrote:
HyuN losing a lot on HotS... Literally no Zerg players doing well on ladder... There must be some issues with balance...

That means there's probably going to be a Zerg that copies FruitDealer's WoL run in HotS by winning next season of GSL when Zerg is close to impossible to win with at the highest level...

Zergs are also losing very one sided series at MLG qualifiers, 1-7 so far. David Kim says everything is OK though, Hydralisks are a huge success apparently.


Well, to be fair, I am not sure whether MLG qualifiers are the best indication right now. Most of the players haven't had much experience with it. And I think the zerg meta has changed the most.

If you look at TvZ (since I follow terrans most closely), in WoL, the T meta was about playing as greedy as possible without getting roach/bane busted while trying to damage the zerg eco so they can't over run you with bane/ling/muta or build up their infestor/BL army. And if they do get infestor/BL, the terran need to have enough vikings and kill the BLs before corruptors come out. If zerg gets to 4 (or 5 base) with their deathball, the chances of winning were about 10-15%.

If you look at HoTS, terran has more options in terms of eco damage (hellbat drops) and hard counters for lings (tanks were actually not that effective to counter lings unless they were behind depots). So the sitting back style is not as effective as before. Drops are also super strong now. Toward the end of WoL, the top pro zergs were just too good when dealing with drops. I don't think MMA 'forgot' how to multi drop. But with creep and the high level of the top zergs, drops just weren't cost effective.
+ Show Spoiler +
If you watch the Mvp vs Curious series, you will see that having 20 lings to run under the drop ship is not long sufficient for defense like it would have been for a 8 marine/maruader drop in WoL


I think zergs have to find ways to deal damage in the mid game now as well instead of teching to T3 super quick (will be interested to see how the top zergs handle the new mutas).

But it is try that zergs are struggling the most. But whether we need to make change, I think we need to see a bit more games after the players have had a change to practice couple months. Because like the queens change before, terrans had no idea how to play once they couldn't attack early and couldn't contain creep.

Personally, I would like to see a halt in tournaments for a couple months so players can adjust. But this is just not feasible in terms of marketing and building interest for HoTS. So I think we should just sit back and enjoy some 'creative' plays and maybe someone using an OP build to win tournaments (like the start of WoL). But I am sure it will settle down much faster compare to WoL because the quality of players are much higher (eSF, Kespa and foreigners)
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:19:03
February 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#45
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".
Get off my lawn, young punks
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
February 13 2013 18:20 GMT
#46
Anything else you would like to say?

I will make it to Code S regardless of who my round three opponent turns out to be and make good results.


Boss mode activate.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 18:29:27
February 13 2013 18:28 GMT
#47
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2013 18:33 GMT
#48
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37027 Posts
February 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#49
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
Show nested quote +
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
Show nested quote +
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 13 2013 21:03 GMT
#50
On February 14 2013 05:55 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^


Mind control needs a nerf though
AdministratorBreak the chains
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
February 13 2013 21:41 GMT
#51
On February 14 2013 06:03 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 05:55 Seeker wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:18 ACrow wrote:
Thanks so much for the interviews yet again!

Two smallish remarks:
From Sniper's interview:
I had put my infestors in patrol position. I was fighting with my brood lords when I realized that my infestors never arrived. I think they were taken off patrol somehow.

I'm guessing he means follow command, not patrol. Patrol doesn't make sense in this context, a follow command on the brood lords seems like what he usually does.
From YongHwa's interview:
...but he did a great job of mind controlling me just like the head coach normally does so I want to thank him for that.

Mind control sounds even more silly in this context than it usually does I know, I know, they like to be mind controlled, but I think that he meant something like "did a great job of calming me down just like ...".

Mind control is the correct saying. I and other translators have all been saying mind control. Don't try to correct that specific part ^^


Mind control needs a nerf though

Every time I heard about mind control, it's always the winner, never the loser. Obviously it's OP, it has a 100% win rate.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 13 2013 22:24 GMT
#52
Thanks Seeker for your monster effort.

Pretty happy with all the winners today =D
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
February 13 2013 23:00 GMT
#53
On February 14 2013 03:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.


Or maybe he is saying "KeSPA players have caught up, the stampede is coming".
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2013 23:01 GMT
#54
On February 14 2013 08:00 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 03:33 vthree wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:28 Weavel wrote:
On February 14 2013 03:08 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Since you've been unable to get past the Code A wall, you were constantly being evaluated.

It seems like all the KeSPA players, including me, have been receiving a lot of evaluations. It was disappointing for a while but it does feel like all the KeSPA players are progressing forward so I feel good about it. I've been saying this all along. There are no differences between a KeSPA player and an eSF player.

Hopefully people will actually listen to Flash. Shit is starting to get kind of annoying at this point
I was just about to quote that part . That statement really made me appreciate flash. eSF vs Kespa rivarly is cool, but the retarded elephant or kespa superiority posts are getting really irritating.


So the biggest elephant himself finally stomped out the whole 'elephant' theory.


Or maybe he is saying "KeSPA players have caught up, the stampede is coming".

oh please quit it with this elephant talk =.=
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 203
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 2185
sSak 1460
NaDa 63
Noble 35
Icarus 16
Dota 2
monkeys_forever604
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 623
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe288
Other Games
summit1g9611
WinterStarcraft457
ViBE110
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1718
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1457
• Lourlo878
• Stunt250
Upcoming Events
SC Evo League
8h 1m
Maestros of the Game
12h 1m
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
15h 1m
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
15h 1m
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Soulkey vs BeSt
Snow vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
GuMiho vs Cham
ByuN vs TriGGeR
Cosmonarchy
6 days
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
[BSL 2025] Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS1
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
Sisters' Call Cup
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.