EPTOn February 01 2013 06:21 Dirkinity wrote:
Is there "Non-public" tv in america? o_0
Is there "Non-public" tv in america? o_0
Public TV as in government-funded. I'm sure Germany has TV stations that are privately owned and are individual businesses.
PBS on The Rise of Competitive Gaming and eSports - Page 2
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
Public TV as in government-funded. I'm sure Germany has TV stations that are privately owned and are individual businesses. | ||
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TheGiftedApe
United States1243 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:25 KillingVector wrote: It would be a hell of a lot better than those programs they run about "brain health" and "personal happiness." as well lots of geeks have access to pbs, atleast a lot of my friends around my age(20-26) don't have cable or satellite, they use netflix and or hulu / the internet, but they still get free pbs over antenna, whereas espn is cable/sat only. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:21 Dirkinity wrote: Is there "Non-public" tv in america? o_0 PBS is funded by government grants and donations. There are little to no commercials (except for brief shout-outs to major contributors), and the vast majority of their content is educational or news. It's probably the most objective and informative news source in America that isn't a website, though some people would argue that they have a liberal bent because they're government-funded. Some programs that run on PBS that you might know of are Nova, Sesame Street, Masterpiece Theater, and Frontline. edit: some more info for non-Americans: PBS is probably one of the most respected and trusted news organizations in the US, but doesn't have the numbers of Fox or CNN. Most of their audience is well-educated and (relatively) old, primarily middle-aged and above. They're known for presenting very objective and unbiased information, and, since they're non-profit, they don't go for headline news that gets them viewers. Because of that, it's actually a bigger deal that PBS is running a story like this as opposed to CNN or Fox, because they have a reputation of being a media outlet that should be taken seriously. That's why the video isn't trying to make a mockery of ESPORTS by saying "hay look at these kids aren't they CRAZY?" like what you'd expect from CNN or whatever: it's reporting on something that is a growing trend, and trying to explain it to an audience that wouldn't understand it. | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:54 Kergy wrote: oh no he called fighting games esports :O It makes me laugh how much of a stigma the FGC has against being associated with e-sports and things like SC2/LoL/CS at all. I don't even know the cause of it. It's such an irrelevant and weird thing to get so upset over. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:13 farvacola wrote: The Public Broadcasting Service, an excellent public television and media producer that is one of the last bastions of American televised journalistic integrity. Yep, this is pretty much it. Most "for profit" stations don't do journalism, they just make blank, ridiculous statements to get people to watch their "stories." PBS is amazing and its shows are part of most of my early childhood memories. Mr. Rogers was so good  . That said, I wonder how we should take this as a community. It is definitely a good thing, but, that said, I don't know if I like the idea of PBS being the one to televise it. As a TV station, many people do not watch the station simply because they don't know how great a lot of what they televise is. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On February 01 2013 10:44 docvoc wrote: Yep, this is pretty much it. Most "for profit" stations don't do journalism, they just make blank, ridiculous statements to get people to watch their "stories." PBS is amazing and its shows are part of most of my early childhood memories. Mr. Rogers was so good . That said, I wonder how we should take this as a community. It is definitely a good thing, but, that said, I don't know if I like the idea of PBS being the one to televise it. As a TV station, many people do not watch the station simply because they don't know how great a lot of what they televise is.I can't imagine PBS would ever actually televise ESPORTS, just maybe inform the audience of what it is. I can't imagine that they'd get any viewership for an SC2/LoL/etc. tournament, and their regular viewers would just be SUPER confused. I mean, my parents watch PBS all the time, but whenever I'm at home and they see me watching SC2, they have to ask if I'm playing or watching... that's how little the average PBS viewer understands video games.  | ||
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che
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On February 01 2013 10:33 MCXD wrote: It makes me laugh how much of a stigma the FGC has against being associated with e-sports and things like SC2/LoL/CS at all. I don't even know the cause of it. It's such an irrelevant and weird thing to get so upset over. The drama behind being called "esports" really isn't anything against the "esports" community at all, but rather a drama concerning certain Twitch community manager who used to be a part of the FGC who decided in late 2011 to make it his job to 'purify' the fighting game scene to be more PG-13 like SC2. tl;dr, the infamous Cross-Assault controversy happened, articles were written bashing the FGC/painting the entire community with a broad stroke, and that certain Twitch employee never showed his face at an FGC-event again. All in all though, I think most people couldn't care less, and with IPL hosting Capcom games this year, I think the FGC has begun warming up to the thought of "esports". | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On February 01 2013 10:33 MCXD wrote: It makes me laugh how much of a stigma the FGC has against being associated with e-sports and things like SC2/LoL/CS at all. I don't even know the cause of it. It's such an irrelevant and weird thing to get so upset over. From the words of UltraDavid: But we in the FGC have a hard time accepting esports, and not just because we find the word “esports” such an incredibly sad, self denying, misguided attempt to borrow legitimacy from the world of traditional sports. We all know that esports has solid, tournament viable games. It’s just… how can we put ourselves under another group’s roof after having spent two decades making our own? http://shoryuken.com/2011/12/12/guest-editorial-momentum-matters-a-historical-perspective-on-the-fgc-and-esports-communities-2/ To be more blunt: * FGC is the result of community growth, looking for support of sponsorships. * eSports is sponsorship money looking for community growth to become profitable. IMO, Blizzard's handling of Starcraft 2 is the ugly side of the latter. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On February 01 2013 10:50 corpuscle wrote: I can't imagine PBS would ever actually televise ESPORTS, just maybe inform the audience of what it is. I can't imagine that they'd get any viewership for an SC2/LoL/etc. tournament, and their regular viewers would just be SUPER confused. I mean, my parents watch PBS all the time, but whenever I'm at home and they see me watching SC2, they have to ask if I'm playing or watching... that's how little the average PBS viewer understands video games. Yeah I was confused because, as another poster said above, their audience tends to not be the age for these games. There are some people that old that play or watch SC2 or BW or even LoL, but that audience is microscopic. I realize this is big since PBS is usually the most unbiased source in the U.S., but I was very confused if they were going to make this regular since their audience could in no way relate to that subject matter. | ||
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VManOfMana
United States764 Posts
On February 01 2013 12:12 docvoc wrote: Yeah I was confused because, as another poster said above, their audience tends to not be the age for these games. There are some people that old that play or watch SC2 or BW or even LoL, but that audience is microscopic. I realize this is big since PBS is usually the most unbiased source in the U.S., but I was very confused if they were going to make this regular since their audience could in no way relate to that subject matter. Don't confuse "educated" to "old". At the end, it's about cultural programming, and eSports fits the criteria. The fact that PBS doesn't take a sensationalistic approach makes it all more enjoyable. | ||
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memcpy
United States459 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On February 01 2013 06:25 KillingVector wrote: It would be a hell of a lot better than those programs they run about "brain health" and "personal happiness." Mr. Rogers defending PBS. It's one of the few networks that reliably shows unsponsored, non-commercial children's and educational programming. The end of this video makes me teary-eyed. | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On February 01 2013 12:41 Defacer wrote: Mr. Rogers defending PBS. It's one of the few networks that reliably shows unsponsored, non-commercial children's and educational programming. http://youtu.be/yXEuEUQIP3Q The end of this video makes me teary-eyed. God bless that man. Wish he was still doing all that good work these days. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46113 Posts
Now we just need everyone from the older generation to sit down and take 7 minutes and 37 seconds out of their lives to watch this. | ||
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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
On February 01 2013 13:12 BoZiffer wrote: God bless that man. Wish he was still doing all that good work these days. Incredible. | ||
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DekkuM
United States149 Posts
On February 01 2013 10:33 MCXD wrote: It makes me laugh how much of a stigma the FGC has against being associated with e-sports and things like SC2/LoL/CS at all. I don't even know the cause of it. It's such an irrelevant and weird thing to get so upset over. It's because of the perception of console gaming vs computer gaming here in the states. Someone who plays PC games for 5-6 hours a day is going to be looked at as more of a nerd than someone that plays 5-6 hours of console games. I think the same applies in Japan. | ||
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