You can't just fake bankruptcy without breaking a lot of laws. The revenue for Own3d is almost completely transparent since it's all from advertisers, so if the executives were stealing money and pretending to sink, they would certainly be caught.

I don't understand why people keep posting such negative things. The guys who started Own3d were eSports pioneers, you should really get on your knees and thank them for inventing the streaming scene and enabling western pro gamers to follow their dreams. Everybody wants to assume they're some sort of villainous thieves, but the simple reality is that Twitch got huge and crushed them. Is that so difficult to accept?

wireninja

Australia46 Posts

January 26 2013 22:08 GMT

#203

Their really needs to be a good Twitch competitor. Im now looking forward to seeing what Azubu can offer .. or is there anyone else who wants to enter this space?

ProTech

United States434 Posts

January 28 2013 04:59 GMT

#204

CooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL 5,000$ owed. FML

ZeroTalent

United States297 Posts

January 28 2013 05:16 GMT

#205

On January 25 2013 09:30 Joefish wrote:
It's sad that all the VODs will be lost forever.
I pmed a staff member about unavailable vods older than 3 years and he said they would move their servers and they'll be back up in a few weeks... :/
Next on the list livestream.com maybe?

livestream.com does enough business in the non-gaming world that they won't go under.

I do hope there's some competition for twitch, whether it's from youtube, azubu, or someone else.

Titio

France237 Posts

January 30 2013 00:05 GMT

#206

Dailymotion is #2 VOD provider worldwide (granted, very far behind YouTube), and has been beta testing Live video for esports for some time now. I wouldn't be surprised if they considered it more seriously pretty soon. And with over 50m€ raised and a recent buyout by Orange, I'd say they're up to the task.

FLeK0

86 Posts

January 30 2013 00:23 GMT

#207

Dailymotion has 18+ content so I'd gladly welcome them, twitch has become kinda a pussy bitch site with all their strict rules to keep it safe for kids.

LingBlingBling

United States353 Posts

January 30 2013 00:29 GMT

#208

You guys forget there are 10x better and more wealthy stream sites then Twitch, Video game streaming is like small %, People stream more things then video games. Dailymotion allows +18 content so they get views watching 18 year old girls talk dirty n crap.

and tons of other stream sites that are 10x more wealthy then twitch. I'm sure those stream sites will start with video game section as popularity grows, but in general other things are way more popular in the streaming world then video games and E sports. So should be tons of new stream sites popping up for video games.

I mean you can go on Justin tv and see 14 year old girls get 10x more viewers then Pro popular gamers, pretty messed up but video game streams get like half the views vs people streaming their "life" or other dumb stuff lol.

Nuclease

United States1049 Posts

January 30 2013 00:41 GMT

#209

Dear GOD this was predictable. Any company that becomes one of the mots hated entities in all of eSPORTs within a few days will most definitely not be around long...

docvoc

United States5491 Posts

January 30 2013 00:45 GMT

#210

On January 28 2013 13:59 ProTech wrote:
CooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL 5,000$ owed. FML

O.o holy crap dude, that is some bank you just lost.

coverpunch

United States2093 Posts

January 30 2013 00:51 GMT

#211

On January 30 2013 09:41 Nuclease wrote:
Dear GOD this was predictable. Any company that becomes one of the mots hated entities in all of eSPORTs within a few days will most definitely not be around long...

You've obviously never heard of Blizzard Entertainment.

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

January 30 2013 01:06 GMT

#212

On January 30 2013 09:29 LingBlingBling wrote:
You guys forget there are 10x better and more wealthy stream sites then Twitch, Video game streaming is like small %, People stream more things then video games. Dailymotion allows +18 content so they get views watching 18 year old girls talk dirty n crap.

and tons of other stream sites that are 10x more wealthy then twitch. I'm sure those stream sites will start with video game section as popularity grows, but in general other things are way more popular in the streaming world then video games and E sports. So should be tons of new stream sites popping up for video games.

I mean you can go on Justin tv and see 14 year old girls get 10x more viewers then Pro popular gamers, pretty messed up but video game streams get like half the views vs people streaming their "life" or other dumb stuff lol.

I don't think this is entirely accurate. First of all, these live blogging channels aren't ad supported, so they're definitely not making the companies rich. Twitch is by far the most wealthy streaming service (at least in the west), because they have a ton of sponsors who pay them handsomely.

It's kind of interesting though, the only reason Twitch ever came into existence is because of Own3d's shitty chat functionality. A few years ago, 90% of gaming streams were Own3d, but they switched to justin.tv because it had better chat. Then jtv decided it would be a good idea to monetize, and Twitch was born. All Own3d had to do was fix the one problem everybody was complaining about, and they'd be the ones rolling in money right now.

skatblast

United States784 Posts

January 30 2013 03:20 GMT

#213

On January 30 2013 09:23 FLeK0 wrote:
Dailymotion has 18+ content so I'd gladly welcome them, twitch has become kinda a pussy bitch site with all their strict rules to keep it safe for kids.

Well yeah... its a site used to stream games. Mostly by kids.Why would you want porn on there? Theres plenty of other sites for that.

mindspike

Canada1902 Posts

January 30 2013 03:33 GMT

#214

On January 27 2013 03:22 MVega wrote:

Show nested quote +

It doesn't matter, Own3D wasn't much competition for Twitch to start with. There was really no incentive for Twitch to improve when every single thing it has is better than it's competition. It needs real competition to drive it forward, and Own3D wasn't that.

You would be misinformed.
The traffic on Own3d and Twitch were not that far off, especially in early 2012.
Twitch staff have also said that the Own3d competition was quite heated.

Source:

HiTeK532

Canada171 Posts

January 30 2013 04:10 GMT

#215

sounds like own3d got owned

Grettin

42381 Posts

January 30 2013 18:27 GMT

#216

Oleg (COO of Own3d) should be on Live on Three tonight, according to Wheat. Stay tuned on Slasher/Wheat's twitter for more.

Aerisky

United States12129 Posts

January 30 2013 18:38 GMT

#217

Yeah, they seemed ridiculously shady about everything that was going on. Sucks that there is now less competition, but I thought owned sucked. Terrible for refusing to pay casters, unsurprising that they were bankrupt :X

CrushDog5

Canada207 Posts

January 30 2013 18:42 GMT

#218

Anyone know if this influences The Defense (DoTA2)? Tobi is streaming now.
Maybe they already wrote the check for prize money?
I hope so.

Grettin

42381 Posts

January 30 2013 18:52 GMT

#219

On January 31 2013 03:42 CrushDog5 wrote:
Anyone know if this influences The Defense (DoTA2)? Tobi is streaming now.
Maybe they already wrote the check for prize money?
I hope so.

Tobi did talk about this briefly on last night's TalkDOTA.

Q: Any comments on the Own3d.tv drama and if JoinDota can handle losing a such a big sponsor?

Tobi: As far as own3d.tv goes, theres nothing official yet, keep your eyes on Joindota news section. There will be statement coming out hopefully within the next couple of days. As far as The Defense goes, all future games will probably be streamed on the twitch.tv channel. Joindota is 100% fine without own3d.tv.

Whole episode can be found here:
+ Show Spoiler +

Its the last Question of the show from the viewers. Around 1hour 40min in.