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Oleo
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands279 Posts
January 25 2013 20:32 GMT
#181
Ah no, Own3d, I am gonna miss you. Own3d service works way way better than Twitch for me. Player is better, stream quality is better, lag is less. Everytime I watch a tournament I am like, ah hell, I wish it would be streamed on own3d. Now I am gonna be stuck with Twitch
Managing Siegetanks is like raising a superhero - Artosis.
AllHailTheDead
Profile Joined July 2011
United States418 Posts
January 25 2013 20:37 GMT
#182
On January 25 2013 07:40 Zenbrez wrote:
I hate when people say this, but

That's not unexpected



pretty much this tho


I think everyone expected this

Its funny cause Destiny basically screwed the owner from selling his company with the news he brought to light
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
January 25 2013 20:51 GMT
#183
On January 26 2013 04:36 TJ31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 17:00 Type|NarutO wrote:

Youtube is owned by Google and let me tell you, if Google wants to step in they win right away. They have the money for it, hell they could buy twitch and I think it would be a good thing. Best buy Twitch + their staff and put money into it because I think the Twitch staff is good and driven, but if Google wants to compete, Twitch will be gone I think-_-

Don't overestimate google. They are trying to get in to social network business for a while, but even with all their efforts and money, they can't. I mean I don't use either of the social networks, but a lot of my friends do and no one of them using google plus.


Also in my opinion owned never was a real competitor to twitch anyway. Sure they had some popular streams, but overall numbers were much higher on twitch.
They also had terrible UI/design and chat for the most streams, even with about 1k viewers (ForGG for example) were empty.
So while I can't say "I'm glad they are gone", I can't say that I'm sad either. Not a big loss for the streaming community, esports or just anyone. Except those people who never got their money ofc.


Social Networks are a different story because they are valuable primarily because of their userbase.

Google has the delivery network to serve video almost everywhere and is the premier advertisement company. Even without considering the pure financial power, these two things alone show how Youtube would overwhelm Twitch. Purely hypothetical, though.
Robstickle
Profile Joined April 2010
Great Britain406 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 17:37:48
January 25 2013 20:52 GMT
#184
Good riddance; hopefully Twitch will have some competitors that aren't awful now.
BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
January 25 2013 20:53 GMT
#185
Meh, its kinda bad for the streaming industry. Monopoly has never been good for anything.
leova
Profile Joined April 2011
266 Posts
January 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#186
On January 26 2013 05:37 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Its funny cause Destiny basically screwed the owner from selling his company with the news he brought to light

from what I heard the deal was cancelled on the 15th of January, but Destiny only posted around the 17th...
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 25 2013 21:12 GMT
#187
On January 25 2013 20:55 Jan2011 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 19:16 figq wrote:
That probably means all VODs hosted on own3D by various esports organizations would be gone... that's a huge blow to the history preservation of many games and events.

hm maybe the streamers (or the community itself) could mirror the VOD´s to YT ? As long as own3d tv vods are up and running, this can be done asap or else 100 of good tournaments would rly be gone for ever

I hope at least some of the VODs get transferred. We don't even realize it fully, but that's a huge memory loss not only for SC2 - games like Dota 2, LoL and others, also have huge archives of important events on own3D. Whole seasons could be lost.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 21:44:30
January 25 2013 21:22 GMT
#188
I guess you could say that the whole company...

*puts on shades*

...got owned.

*YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!*

Edit: And let me just say one thing to all those people yapping on about growing Esports. It's tiny. Esports is a speck of dust in the world of professional sporting and broadcasting. I loved the day when Stephano signed with EG, it was hilarious. Everyone raising their eyebrows at his whopping $100,000 salary.

Lionel Messi is worth 130,000,000 Pounds. Think about that. The man makes 17.1 million dollars a year.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are worth over a billion dollars.

Dallas Cowboys are worth almost two billion.

55% of the population of USA watched the last super bowl. Imagine tuning into a stream with "150,000,001 viewers" at the top right of the window.

Sports get big because they appeal to people of all ages, because they have heritage, because fans don't require or need to afford internet and a computer and a desk, because the activity generally promotes healthy living, because it's important for children's physical and psychological growth.

Think about how exclusive Esports actually is. I wouldn't be surprised to see companies like owned dropping like flies.

I mean, I love SC2, I want to see Esports grow, but I will never expect as much of it as some of you people are.
It's important to keep this cute little circus is perspective, right?
Terran.
Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
January 25 2013 22:22 GMT
#189
On January 26 2013 05:37 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:40 Zenbrez wrote:
I hate when people say this, but

That's not unexpected



pretty much this tho


I think everyone expected this

Its funny cause Destiny basically screwed the owner from selling his company with the news he brought to light


That might be the silliest comment I've ever read. The right comment have been, good thing own3d didn't screw over someone else (buyer) along with the streamers they weren't paying...
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
Khonsou
Profile Joined September 2011
Dominican Republic275 Posts
January 25 2013 22:33 GMT
#190
On January 26 2013 02:45 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 02:42 DavoS wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm still waiting for Google to start a streaming service, but until then I'm content with Twitch


YouTube is working on a streaming service and YT = Google.


They already have Stream servicies, alot of Music Events are broadcasted via Youtube (Tomorrowland and UMF were good examples). The only thing is that they are not doing permanent service, and even less in gaming for now.
A French living under the sun
R3DT1D3
Profile Joined January 2012
285 Posts
January 25 2013 22:34 GMT
#191
Now what happens to the streamers who deliberately snubbed Twitch in the past? People like Destiny are going to have to come crawling back?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
January 25 2013 22:49 GMT
#192
On January 26 2013 07:34 R3DT1D3 wrote:
Now what happens to the streamers who deliberately snubbed Twitch in the past? People like Destiny are going to have to come crawling back?


he is already back on twitch.

Oh well, I guess we now know why people weren't getting paid.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
January 26 2013 18:02 GMT
#193
On January 26 2013 05:37 AllHailTheDead wrote:
Its funny cause Destiny basically screwed the owner from selling his company with the news he brought to light


Stop thinking he has such influence, he's just an attention seeker that made his post at the right moment without even knowing it.
MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
January 26 2013 18:22 GMT
#194
On January 26 2013 05:53 BoggieMan wrote:
Meh, its kinda bad for the streaming industry. Monopoly has never been good for anything.


It doesn't matter, Own3D wasn't much competition for Twitch to start with. There was really no incentive for Twitch to improve when every single thing it has is better than it's competition. It needs real competition to drive it forward, and Own3D wasn't that.
bumkin: How can you play like 50 games per day... I 4gate 2 times then it's nap time
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 26 2013 18:40 GMT
#195
On January 26 2013 06:22 HoLe wrote:
I guess you could say that the whole company...

*puts on shades*

...got owned.

*YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!*

Edit: And let me just say one thing to all those people yapping on about growing Esports. It's tiny. Esports is a speck of dust in the world of professional sporting and broadcasting. I loved the day when Stephano signed with EG, it was hilarious. Everyone raising their eyebrows at his whopping $100,000 salary.

Lionel Messi is worth 130,000,000 Pounds. Think about that. The man makes 17.1 million dollars a year.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are worth over a billion dollars.

Dallas Cowboys are worth almost two billion.

55% of the population of USA watched the last super bowl. Imagine tuning into a stream with "150,000,001 viewers" at the top right of the window.

Sports get big because they appeal to people of all ages, because they have heritage, because fans don't require or need to afford internet and a computer and a desk, because the activity generally promotes healthy living, because it's important for children's physical and psychological growth.

Think about how exclusive Esports actually is. I wouldn't be surprised to see companies like owned dropping like flies.

I mean, I love SC2, I want to see Esports grow, but I will never expect as much of it as some of you people are.
It's important to keep this cute little circus is perspective, right?


Well, people look to success of things like the proleague in korea where esports is quite popular, to the point where it has a dedicated TV channel on a major network. The US is one of the countries that is least receptive to esports, but thats not to say that there aren't places where it is a big deal. Flash and JD are rumored to be paid 7 figures, and at the very least have some celebrity status. I agree that people are often a bit overly optimistic about the outlook for the future of esports, but its not like growth is unattainable.
dreaming of a sunny day
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
January 26 2013 21:04 GMT
#196
The largest mistake they made was in my opinion not being more clear with the monetary issues to their partners. Had they been up front about money delays they 'may' have kept more people happy which 'may' have helped them get a deal done to buy out or have someone buy in to own3d.

Past all that I would hope twitchtv doesn't rest on their laurels, they say they won't but I've seen that said a million times. It's extremely easy with little to no real competition to delay this or that because you don't perceive it as costing you customers. There has been a 101 dumb things I've seen youtube do because of that lack of competition.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 26 2013 21:21 GMT
#197
On January 27 2013 03:40 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 06:22 HoLe wrote:
I guess you could say that the whole company...

*puts on shades*

...got owned.

*YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!*

Edit: And let me just say one thing to all those people yapping on about growing Esports. It's tiny. Esports is a speck of dust in the world of professional sporting and broadcasting. I loved the day when Stephano signed with EG, it was hilarious. Everyone raising their eyebrows at his whopping $100,000 salary.

Lionel Messi is worth 130,000,000 Pounds. Think about that. The man makes 17.1 million dollars a year.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are worth over a billion dollars.

Dallas Cowboys are worth almost two billion.

55% of the population of USA watched the last super bowl. Imagine tuning into a stream with "150,000,001 viewers" at the top right of the window.

Sports get big because they appeal to people of all ages, because they have heritage, because fans don't require or need to afford internet and a computer and a desk, because the activity generally promotes healthy living, because it's important for children's physical and psychological growth.

Think about how exclusive Esports actually is. I wouldn't be surprised to see companies like owned dropping like flies.

I mean, I love SC2, I want to see Esports grow, but I will never expect as much of it as some of you people are.
It's important to keep this cute little circus is perspective, right?


Well, people look to success of things like the proleague in korea where esports is quite popular, to the point where it has a dedicated TV channel on a major network. The US is one of the countries that is least receptive to esports, but thats not to say that there aren't places where it is a big deal. Flash and JD are rumored to be paid 7 figures, and at the very least have some celebrity status. I agree that people are often a bit overly optimistic about the outlook for the future of esports, but its not like growth is unattainable.


7 figures? Where did you hear the rumor that Flash and JD are making that kind of money?
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
January 26 2013 21:24 GMT
#198
Good riddance
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
January 26 2013 21:31 GMT
#199
I only can hope twitch improves their servers and all. It's a mess as soon as many people watching at the same time (Yeah thank you LOL >_<). It's a good thing you can get all good stuff on twitch but they seriously need to get their things straight.
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
January 26 2013 21:36 GMT
#200
On January 27 2013 06:21 Vul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 03:40 packrat386 wrote:
On January 26 2013 06:22 HoLe wrote:
I guess you could say that the whole company...

*puts on shades*

...got owned.

*YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!*

Edit: And let me just say one thing to all those people yapping on about growing Esports. It's tiny. Esports is a speck of dust in the world of professional sporting and broadcasting. I loved the day when Stephano signed with EG, it was hilarious. Everyone raising their eyebrows at his whopping $100,000 salary.

Lionel Messi is worth 130,000,000 Pounds. Think about that. The man makes 17.1 million dollars a year.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are worth over a billion dollars.

Dallas Cowboys are worth almost two billion.

55% of the population of USA watched the last super bowl. Imagine tuning into a stream with "150,000,001 viewers" at the top right of the window.

Sports get big because they appeal to people of all ages, because they have heritage, because fans don't require or need to afford internet and a computer and a desk, because the activity generally promotes healthy living, because it's important for children's physical and psychological growth.

Think about how exclusive Esports actually is. I wouldn't be surprised to see companies like owned dropping like flies.

I mean, I love SC2, I want to see Esports grow, but I will never expect as much of it as some of you people are.
It's important to keep this cute little circus is perspective, right?


Well, people look to success of things like the proleague in korea where esports is quite popular, to the point where it has a dedicated TV channel on a major network. The US is one of the countries that is least receptive to esports, but thats not to say that there aren't places where it is a big deal. Flash and JD are rumored to be paid 7 figures, and at the very least have some celebrity status. I agree that people are often a bit overly optimistic about the outlook for the future of esports, but its not like growth is unattainable.


7 figures? Where did you hear the rumor that Flash and JD are making that kind of money?


They don't. Though apparently Flash gives his winnings to his mother who invests it so maybe he has a lot of money now. But if he does, it wasn't from being paid 7 figures.
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