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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19299 Posts
January 25 2013 16:07 GMT
#141
This just in: own3D wanted to cry about the situation but they couldn't afford the streams of tears!
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JackReacher
Profile Joined September 2012
United States197 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 16:18:15
January 25 2013 16:16 GMT
#142
Am I allowed to bash owned on TL? Seems like every time I hate on something that really needs hatin', I get temp banned or warned -_-

Not a fan of the site by a long shot, but I'll reserve my true feelings on the matter for now
Ballack
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway821 Posts
January 25 2013 16:45 GMT
#143
This is very bad for the scene....Hopefully someone else can take their place and give twitch some competition.
Just when I thought I was out, Blizz pulled me back in..
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 25 2013 16:49 GMT
#144
I wonder if Own3d is going to be forced to declare bankruptcy or if most of their contractors are people like Destiny who complain but won't take legal steps.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
January 25 2013 16:56 GMT
#145
Technically if the payments to streamers are contractual, that would make the streamers owed money effectively creditors, meaning they should be paid off first even before equity holders.
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Roqshu
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany112 Posts
January 25 2013 17:01 GMT
#146
Horrible news. Streaming sector needs competition. But I guess the moment youtube launches it's streaming portal there will be a LOT of competition between them and twitch.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#147
This is bad news. There needs to be competition in the streaming sector.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 25 2013 17:04 GMT
#148
Out of curiosity, where did the money go exactly? Like, all the advertising money? If anyone who has more knowledge about how these types of businesses/sites work could give some info, it'd be appreciated.
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 25 2013 17:05 GMT
#149
Twitch.tv with the monopoly... be ready to pay for all players streams in the upcoming year.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
January 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#150
I love how all the little capitalist go like "omg no competition so bad". MLG has had a monopoly on competitive halo forever now and they still improved their product all the time (halo being dropped was due to reach being a terrible game, had nothing to do with no competition). Just because we live in a fucked up capitalstic system doesn't mean everything is always better if it follows that principle.
Plus youtube will launch it's streaming service soon, which will be more than enough competition for twitch.

Other than that, well twitch was superior in every way, except for cpm, which own3ds was apparently too good to be true anyways. Sucks for the people who were able to work in esports thanks to own3d and everyone who won't get paid.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 25 2013 17:15 GMT
#151
On January 26 2013 02:06 Lorch wrote:
I love how all the little capitalist go like "omg no competition so bad". MLG has had a monopoly on competitive halo forever now and they still improved their product all the time (halo being dropped was due to reach being a terrible game, had nothing to do with no competition). Just because we live in a fucked up capitalstic system doesn't mean everything is always better if it follows that principle.
Plus youtube will launch it's streaming service soon, which will be more than enough competition for twitch.

Other than that, well twitch was superior in every way, except for cpm, which own3ds was apparently too good to be true anyways. Sucks for the people who were able to work in esports thanks to own3d and everyone who won't get paid.


It doesn't have anything to do with being "a little capitalist." That's an allegation that is completely uncalled for.
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coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
January 25 2013 17:16 GMT
#152
On January 26 2013 02:04 Blargh wrote:
Out of curiosity, where did the money go exactly? Like, all the advertising money? If anyone who has more knowledge about how these types of businesses/sites work could give some info, it'd be appreciated.

Payroll and hardware. I'd bet a lot that they spent money like they were expecting a high level of growth and that just didn't happen. With disappointing revenue, they found themselves overextended and running out of runway, which is why their last straw was to try to sell the company.

For payroll, note that streamers like Destiny are not employees of the company but contractors. So payroll means the developers and other staff at Own3d.

Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 25 2013 17:18 GMT
#153
On January 25 2013 07:46 wptlzkwjd wrote:
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On January 25 2013 07:42 Zzoram wrote:
Their higher CPM than Twitch turned out to really be too good to be true. I've always liked Twitch better myself, it loaded faster for me in Canada and has a cleaner interface.


Yeah same. Whenever I watched ForGG's stream, it always overlapped without another image for like the first 30 seconds which was annoying. Not sure if that was Own3d or just my computer though...


It seems to be a generally Canadian thing. I always see us being unhappy with Owen3d.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 25 2013 17:22 GMT
#154
On January 26 2013 02:18 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:46 wptlzkwjd wrote:
On January 25 2013 07:42 Zzoram wrote:
Their higher CPM than Twitch turned out to really be too good to be true. I've always liked Twitch better myself, it loaded faster for me in Canada and has a cleaner interface.


Yeah same. Whenever I watched ForGG's stream, it always overlapped without another image for like the first 30 seconds which was annoying. Not sure if that was Own3d or just my computer though...


It seems to be a generally Canadian thing. I always see us being unhappy with Owen3d.


+1 as a Canadian who always had a worse experience with Own3d than twitch.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
January 25 2013 17:25 GMT
#155
I could have sworn you were from Lesoto Sn0.
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SLAYER29
Profile Joined June 2011
United States50 Posts
January 25 2013 17:28 GMT
#156
The power of Destiny and Team Liquid. Now companies know not to fuck around with sc2 and eSports. PAY THE MAN
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RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
January 25 2013 17:28 GMT
#157
Meh... as bad as everyone though they were, they were just bad compared to twitch.... congrats to twitch i guess.... They're gonna enjoy that monopoly.
CamoPillbox
Profile Joined April 2012
Czech Republic229 Posts
January 25 2013 17:33 GMT
#158
bad buy owned already make bad name twitch rulezzz
Czech Terran(Hots) player
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
January 25 2013 17:42 GMT
#159
While it sucks that the players don't get paid, from a selfish perspective it's awesome that all the good Koreans will stream on Twitch now instead.
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I'm still waiting for Google to start a streaming service, but until then I'm content with Twitch
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
January 25 2013 17:45 GMT
#160
On January 26 2013 02:42 DavoS wrote:
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I'm still waiting for Google to start a streaming service, but until then I'm content with Twitch


YouTube is working on a streaming service and YT = Google.
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