EPTSupernova gets a new look - Page 25
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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pookums
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On December 29 2012 10:47 NoGasfOu wrote: Well, white people do tanning to look like Asian. White people shave their hair chest, legs, and beard in order to look clean like Asian. White people do eat sushi. White people eat Chinese food with chopstick. White people drive Honda and Toyota. What's the difference Some people just don't know reality. Let me tell you about an Asian TV show from Japan. I once saw a show in which the hosts dressed up in all kinds of costumes on a TV talk show. One dressed up as a ninja, one as a superman, one as a teacher, a prostitute, a fireman, an African skin painted black. One of them also dressed up as a western man with skin painted white wearing a yellow wig, a giant plastic nose, yellow eyebrows, and yellow hair chest. This is how Asians view westerners in Asia. They view westerners as some giant, rare hairy alien that you don't see everyday on the street in Asia and that you wanna take a picture with. Not trying to be a butt hole here, but this sure disappoints a lot of people here. Well, white people do tanning to look like Asian. Can you back that up? Asians aren't the only people with olive skin. Hispanics, Southern Europeans, and Northern Africans are some non-Asians with olive skin. White people shave their hair chest, legs, and beard in order to look clean like Asian. Again, your logic fails. Just because Asians possess a general trait does not mean people who alter themselves to get that trait are emulating Asians. Many races are less hairy than your standard Caucasian. Africans are generally hairless. Native Americans are generally hairless. Hairless bodies also mimic the bodies of younger people, regardless of race. Youth is attractive. I don't see why people who shave their body are necessarily trying to look Asian. White people do eat sushi. The only valid point you raise that's relevant. White people eat Chinese food with chopstick. When in Rome do as the Romans do. When I eat at Asian restaurants I use chopsticks. When I go to a professional play I wear a suit. When I go to a college play I wear jeans and a t-shirt. White people drive Honda and Toyota. There are many factors that go into a decision to buy a car. Price, dependability, safety, fuel economy, size, aesthetics, power, etc. Aesthetics are the only subjective thing that can be argued for being culture and even those are restricted by aerodynamics. Even if I may think a Ford looks better than a Toyota I'd much rather buy a Toyota because they last longer than a Fix Or Repair Daily and they get better fuel economy. Obviously there are different models under each brand so lumping all Fords and all Toyotas together isn't perfect but it's a lot quicker than going model by model. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On December 28 2012 13:18 Fionn wrote: In the off season of SC2, we have not lots to talk about that isn't players leaving teams or moving to a new one. In typical Korean news, Supernova has seemingly gone out and got plastic surgery to change his looks. He looks like an entirely new person now. Old Supernova: ![[image loading]](http://i20.fastpic.ru/big/2011/0420/43/52cc1df27fa9382cbc9227b15f2eef43.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://p1.img.cctvpic.com/nettv/newgame/2012/0129/20120129112257217.jpg) New Supernova: ![[image loading]](http://imageftw.com/uploads/20121227/supernova.jpg) ![[image loading]](https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2973008630/abd935fa8e0b18c938b7584e0166b8d5.jpeg) This isn't the first time a player has gotten cosmetic surgery. Both Stats and Mind got surgery altering their looks, but Stats had to because he couldn't close his mouth properly because of his extremely large manly chin. I heard stats swallowed his surgically removed manly chin and so he's still by all its manliness. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5913 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
Pretty noticeable change for sure. | ||
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Khalum
Austria831 Posts
On December 29 2012 14:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote: The first of the after pics looks identical to Jaedong No. | ||
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ScienceNotBusiness
United States91 Posts
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On December 29 2012 14:46 pookums wrote: Can you back that up? Asians aren't the only people with olive skin. Hispanics, Southern Europeans, and Northern Africans are some non-Asians with olive skin. Italian-olive skin but still white, you could say. | ||
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SeraKuDA
Canada343 Posts
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Leefang
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Brutaxilos
United States2634 Posts
On December 29 2012 14:46 pookums wrote: Can you back that up? Asians aren't the only people with olive skin. Hispanics, Southern Europeans, and Northern Africans are some non-Asians with olive skin. Again, your logic fails. Just because Asians possess a general trait does not mean people who alter themselves to get that trait are emulating Asians. Many races are less hairy than your standard Caucasian. Africans are generally hairless. Native Americans are generally hairless. Hairless bodies also mimic the bodies of younger people, regardless of race. Youth is attractive. I don't see why people who shave their body are necessarily trying to look Asian. The only valid point you raise that's relevant. When in Rome do as the Romans do. When I eat at Asian restaurants I use chopsticks. When I go to a professional play I wear a suit. When I go to a college play I wear jeans and a t-shirt. There are many factors that go into a decision to buy a car. Price, dependability, safety, fuel economy, size, aesthetics, power, etc. Aesthetics are the only subjective thing that can be argued for being culture and even those are restricted by aerodynamics. Even if I may think a Ford looks better than a Toyota I'd much rather buy a Toyota because they last longer than a Fix Or Repair Daily and they get better fuel economy. Obviously there are different models under each brand so lumping all Fords and all Toyotas together isn't perfect but it's a lot quicker than going model by model. You do realize he's being sarcastic to make a point right? The point is that, just because Asians do things that whites do, it doesn't mean that they are trying to be white. It just because we've historically favored these traits. If whites don't tan to look Asian, than Asians don't lighten their skin to look white. And as for this specific beauty characteristic, there is a historical reason why Asians favor white skin. To be rich, one needn't not work in the fields and the sun, so society naturally showed that looking paler was more beautiful. In western culture, being rich meant you could travel to more sunny areas (this started in Britain) and get a tan, so darker skin was more favored as being beautiful. You guys arguing that Asians are trying to look white is like Asians arguin that white people are trying to look black by getting tans. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
looks good to me. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
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Fuchsteufelswild
Australia2028 Posts
Definitely ruined. T_T He does not look anywhere near as happy or naturally expressive in the new pictures and in both of them, his left eye (right side of the picture, obviously) look for naturally open than the left, which looks halfways between how they were and how the left is now. Also he looks nothing like NaDa or Jaedong before or after, the faces are completely different! How the hell do people get these ideas from pictures? + Show Spoiler + Just opinion: Gah, people and their obsessions with improving their looks based on poor impressions! | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On December 29 2012 14:46 pookums wrote: Can you back that up? Asians aren't the only people with olive skin. Hispanics, Southern Europeans, and Northern Africans are some non-Asians with olive skin. Again, your logic fails. Just because Asians possess a general trait does not mean people who alter themselves to get that trait are emulating Asians. Many races are less hairy than your standard Caucasian. Africans are generally hairless. Native Americans are generally hairless. Hairless bodies also mimic the bodies of younger people, regardless of race. Youth is attractive. I don't see why people who shave their body are necessarily trying to look Asian. The only valid point you raise that's relevant. When in Rome do as the Romans do. When I eat at Asian restaurants I use chopsticks. When I go to a professional play I wear a suit. When I go to a college play I wear jeans and a t-shirt. There are many factors that go into a decision to buy a car. Price, dependability, safety, fuel economy, size, aesthetics, power, etc. Aesthetics are the only subjective thing that can be argued for being culture and even those are restricted by aerodynamics. Even if I may think a Ford looks better than a Toyota I'd much rather buy a Toyota because they last longer than a Fix Or Repair Daily and they get better fuel economy. Obviously there are different models under each brand so lumping all Fords and all Toyotas together isn't perfect but it's a lot quicker than going model by model. You guys realize he is being sarcastic, right? edit: ok, I hope he was being sarcastic. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On December 29 2012 17:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: Ah, so here are the pictures. Definitely ruined. T_T He does not look anywhere near as happy or naturally expressive in the new pictures and in both of them, his left eye (right side of the picture, obviously) look for naturally open than the left, which looks halfways between how they were and how the left is now. Also he looks nothing like NaDa or Jaedong before or after, the faces are completely different! How the hell do people get these ideas from pictures? + Show Spoiler + Just opinion: Gah, people and their obsessions with improving their looks based on poor impressions! I'm sure getting plastic surgery doesn't diminish either his happiness nor his ability to express it. I can guarantee that you are reading more into the images than is there. Also, because of the quantity and cheapness of plastic surgery in SK, people who aren't obsessed with their looks can also get surgery done. You can get both eyes done for around $1000 USD by some of the most skilled plastic surgeons in the world (compare to the US, for example, where the same surgery can be up to $5000 USD). Getting plastic surgery doesn't mean you are obsessed with your looks, nor does it necessarily mean you have crippling body image issues. Because of the relative low cost and social acceptance of plastic surgery, you would expect a greater incidence of the operations even with the same sample population. The cost, both monetarily and psychologically, is smaller. Big surprise that more people do it. As for the 'sameness' of beauty standards in South Korea, what do you expect from an extremely homogeneous society? It's called sexual selection, homogeneous groups tend to evolve exaggerated and specific sexually attractive traits. There are many subcultures in the Western world where this is also the case, the difference being that many of these places have such a greater mix of cultures that there is a much greater variety in what people consider beautiful. | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Winterfell
United States170 Posts
Korean male gets cosmetic surgery: 25 pages of "How could he do that?" That's so [fill in the blank]. /sigh. I don't know his conditions or his motivations, and therefor have no comment about his choices. | ||
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