• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:57
CET 21:57
KST 05:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool44Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
mca64Launcher - New Version with StarCraft: Remast BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 JaeDong's form before ASL
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group B 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1893 users

Eve joins AZUBU - Page 6

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 11 Next All
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
December 20 2012 02:33 GMT
#101
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.



Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.


She switched to toss, but GSTL rules made her play T (Because she registered as T).

Pretty understandable to not do so good if you play a race that you stopped playing a while ago.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#102
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
Show nested quote +
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Show nested quote +
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.



Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#103
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


I have no idea what you are arguing about O_o
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 03:21:29
December 20 2012 03:21 GMT
#104
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:22 GMT
#105
On December 20 2012 12:14 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


I have no idea what you are arguing about O_o

I was saying how wonderful it would be if Eve is serious about being competetive. I would very much like to see a female progamer take some televised matches in a serious setting like GSTL.

Someone told me that Scarlett has already done so, not knowing Scarlett is actually transgender. There is nothing wrong with being transgender, but a transgender biological male is not the same as a female.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
December 20 2012 03:23 GMT
#106
On December 20 2012 12:21 Fission wrote:
Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.


It's actually relevant. But let's be nice and just say we'd like Eve to be the first girl to win a GSL-sanctioned match some day.
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:24 GMT
#107
On December 20 2012 12:21 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.

I cheer for Scarlett all the time. I am very proud that Scarlett is from my home country, as I can finally cheer for a genuine Canadian. I have no problem with Scarlett being transgender.

It seems you are the one who suffers from ignorance.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
December 20 2012 03:26 GMT
#108
On December 20 2012 12:24 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:21 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.

I cheer for Scarlett all the time. I am very proud that Scarlett is from my home country, as I can finally cheer for a genuine Canadian. I have no problem with Scarlett being transgender.

It seems you are the one who suffers from ignorance.


You're spreading hate about Scarlett under the guise of concern trolling. "Biologically male" is not a meaningful identifier, and if you knew even the smallest thing about biology (beyond whatever you learned in high school), you'd know that's true.
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 03:30:37
December 20 2012 03:29 GMT
#109
On December 20 2012 12:26 Fission wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:24 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:21 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.

I cheer for Scarlett all the time. I am very proud that Scarlett is from my home country, as I can finally cheer for a genuine Canadian. I have no problem with Scarlett being transgender.

It seems you are the one who suffers from ignorance.


You're spreading hate about Scarlett under the guise of concern trolling. "Biologically male" is not a meaningful identifier, and if you knew even the smallest thing about biology (beyond whatever you learned in high school), you'd know that's true.

Maybe you are the one who harbours hatred for Scarlett and other transgenders, if you find it so offensive to discuss being transgender?

I accept people for who they are.

You have gone completely off the deep end by claiming having male or female genetics isn't meaningful.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 03:31:44
December 20 2012 03:31 GMT
#110
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
December 20 2012 03:33 GMT
#111
On December 20 2012 12:29 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:26 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:24 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:21 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:12 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 11:14 Uncreative_Troll wrote:
I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Flo
Flo gained some attention again when she took a game off iNcontroL in the fourth round of the losers' bracket of MLG Fall 2012, although she ultimately lost 2-1 and got knocked out of the tournament.

Not quite what I was hoping for, no offense to incontrol. Technicalities being what they are, I am proven wrong.

Perhaps Eve could make a splash by being the first female to win a broadcast game (I assume flo vs incontrol wouldn't have been broadcast).

On December 20 2012 11:23 Mortal wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:59 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:52 decado90 wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Her game against Sniper was by far the worst display of skill in GSL history and was insulting to the viewers tbh.

I thought it was cute.

But maybe she is better with protoss. I don't expec AZUBU to field her at all if she isn't, but if she can even get good enough to snipe one match for them in GSTL it would be impressive.

On December 20 2012 10:54 Fission wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:50 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 10:37 HappyTimePANDA wrote:
Nice to say she'll be as good as the male players but everyone knows she is there for eye candy. Which I'm fine with but I think we all know we will never see her win a major tounament. Best of luck to her though.

She doesn't need to win a tournament to be competitive.

If she can even get enough skill to take a game off a top male progamer it will be a huge breakthrough for female progamers in sc2. I remember seeing Tossgirl win a match once in BW. It would be nice to see a female win even once in sc2.


Scarlett already owns top male progamers, it's not like Eve would be the first.

You will be disappointed to learn that Scarlett is transgender (biologically male).

I am unaware of any female who has taken a single professional match off a male in SC2. Eve would indeed be the first to my knowledge, if she ever accomplishes that.


The level of density in your post is staggering. It wasn't cute, it was a waste of time. And claiming Scarlett is "technically" male is a fucking joke. She's easily the best female player I can think of off hand (significantly above Flo, Eve, Aphro).

Edit: Sorry for one post after another; just noticed this after post and formatting meh.

I am not sure why you put "technically" in quotes. I never used that word.

Scarlett is a biologically male transgender. Scarlett is very good, but is not biologically female.

Let's not diminish any future achievements from women by comparing them to someone who is biologically/genetically male. It would be huge if Eve can really compete in leagues like GSTL and win games for her team.

Scarlett would also win an arm wrestling match against Eve, but it would be no indication that Eve is weak by female standards.


Take your transphobia and ignorance elsewhere, please.

I cheer for Scarlett all the time. I am very proud that Scarlett is from my home country, as I can finally cheer for a genuine Canadian. I have no problem with Scarlett being transgender.

It seems you are the one who suffers from ignorance.


You're spreading hate about Scarlett under the guise of concern trolling. "Biologically male" is not a meaningful identifier, and if you knew even the smallest thing about biology (beyond whatever you learned in high school), you'd know that's true.

Maybe you are the one who harbours hatred for Scarlett and other transgenders, if you find it so offensive to discuss being transgender?

I accept people for who they are.

You have gone completely off the deep end by claiming having male or female genetics isn't meaningful.


You clearly don't know the first thing about trans* issues or you wouldn't even be arguing. Scarlett is female, end of story.

Good luck to EVE, I hope your career is long and fruitful.
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#112
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
December 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#113
way to be straight forward at least
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 20 2012 03:36 GMT
#114
On December 20 2012 12:35 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.

because the community considers her a woman, including the people who arrange female only tournaments. get over it.
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:51 GMT
#115
On December 20 2012 12:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:35 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.

because the community considers her a woman, including the people who arrange female only tournaments. get over it.

And sadly that attitude diminishes the results of any biologically female progamers, if they ever achieve any.

Eve winning even a single match would be a huge breakthrough for women.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 20 2012 03:52 GMT
#116
On December 20 2012 12:51 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:35 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.

because the community considers her a woman, including the people who arrange female only tournaments. get over it.

And sadly that attitude diminishes the results of any biologically female progamers, if they ever achieve any.

Eve winning even a single match would be a huge breakthrough for women.

it diminishes nothing, and no it would not be a huge breakthrough.
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
December 20 2012 03:53 GMT
#117
Go Eve you can do it!
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Zaqwe
Profile Joined March 2012
591 Posts
December 20 2012 03:54 GMT
#118
On December 20 2012 12:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:51 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:35 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.

because the community considers her a woman, including the people who arrange female only tournaments. get over it.

And sadly that attitude diminishes the results of any biologically female progamers, if they ever achieve any.

Eve winning even a single match would be a huge breakthrough for women.

it diminishes nothing, and no it would not be a huge breakthrough.

In what way would it not be a huge breakthrough?

If you say because Scarlett is already competitive you prove my point about diminishing the results of biological females.
dragoon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States695 Posts
December 20 2012 03:57 GMT
#119
hopefully she ends up doing as well as the standards she's put herself up to.
i love you
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 20 2012 03:58 GMT
#120
On December 20 2012 12:54 Zaqwe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 12:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:51 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:35 Zaqwe wrote:
On December 20 2012 12:31 sc2superfan101 wrote:
you know it's funny, I thought the title of this thread was "Eve joins AZUBU" when it's apparently "get into an argument about Scarlett"...

+ Show Spoiler +
wtf guys? serious?

I think it's stupid too, but apparently you can't have high hopes for women in SC2 or really comment about them at all without someone bringing up Scarlett.

because the community considers her a woman, including the people who arrange female only tournaments. get over it.

And sadly that attitude diminishes the results of any biologically female progamers, if they ever achieve any.

Eve winning even a single match would be a huge breakthrough for women.

it diminishes nothing, and no it would not be a huge breakthrough.

In what way would it not be a huge breakthrough?

If you say because Scarlett is already competitive you prove my point about diminishing the results of biological females.

because it wouldnt.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 616
elazer 215
IndyStarCraft 117
UpATreeSC 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 642
Mini 256
EffOrt 148
firebathero 139
NaDa 7
Dota 2
canceldota52
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2083
byalli713
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu434
Other Games
Grubby3157
FrodaN1113
ceh9610
Beastyqt598
B2W.Neo427
shahzam426
ToD160
C9.Mang0135
ViBE23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream33
StarCraft 2
angryscii 23
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 8
• Hinosc 7
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 41
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift1540
Other Games
• imaqtpie863
• WagamamaTV335
• Shiphtur163
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
3h 3m
Replay Cast
12h 3m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 3m
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
14h 3m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
KCM Race Survival
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 13h
WardiTV Team League
1d 15h
OSC
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Platinum Heroes Events
3 days
BSL
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
OSC
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.