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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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m0ck
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Trasko
Sweden983 Posts
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RFDaemoniac
United States544 Posts
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eTcetRa
Australia822 Posts
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lefix
Germany1082 Posts
Let me start by explaining that most of the initual ratings were done exclusively by 10-20 people from the mapmaking community, before the official announcement. The mapmaking community has quite a different opinion on most maps compared to the rest of the community. Since the announcement... ... people have shown their support for the new KeSPA maps, (which most mapmakers have been very critical of). This shows that the community appreciates seeing new maps in circulation. ... many of the established maps are struggling (Ohana 5.2, Antiga Shipyard 3.5, Entombed Valley 4.1, etc.) ... people are generally very critical of Blizzard maps. Most of them are at the bottom of the list. Akilon Wastes is currently the highest rated Blizzard map with a 5.6 rating. ... many people are being d**** who in order to push a map they like will give all surrounding maps 1s. Maps that enter the top rated list are the most common victims of downvoting. That's also the reason why there are only few entries reaching higher ratings. (Cloud Kingdom seems to be the only map the community can agree on) I once again would like to ask everyone to be reasonable when rating maps! | ||
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MagnuMizer
Denmark384 Posts
I feel bad for all those map makers that probably have made really great maps but never discovered.. However, I sat for a few hours today in the chat channel on eu... alone.. I was ready to test maps but nobody showed.. | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
On December 16 2012 21:56 MagnuMizer wrote: Nice initiative... I checked out the site, its nice... I feel bad for all those map makers that probably have made really great maps but never discovered.. However, I sat for a few hours today in the chat channel on eu... alone.. I was ready to test maps but nobody showed.. Well at a point you have to make a choice : do you make maps or do you play ? Not enough time TT | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16126 Posts
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Fjodorov
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Meltage
Germany613 Posts
I didnt know about drop.dc but really, anythign dropped there just drowns. Maps coudl have external links to replays as well, so that we coudl add links directly to the replays | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On December 16 2012 21:50 lefix wrote: ... people have shown their support for the new KeSPA maps, (which most mapmakers have been very critical of). This shows that the community appreciates seeing new maps in circulation. ... many of the established maps are struggling (Ohana 5.2, Antiga Shipyard 3.5, Entombed Valley 4.1, etc.) ... people are generally very critical of Blizzard maps. Most of them are at the bottom of the list. Akilon Wastes is currently the highest rated Blizzard map with a 5.6 rating. ... many people are being d**** who in order to push a map they like will give all surrounding maps 1s. Maps that enter the top rated list are the most common victims of downvoting. That's also the reason why there are only few entries reaching higher ratings. (Cloud Kingdom seems to be the only map the community can agree on) I once again would like to ask everyone to be reasonable when rating maps! While I think people do like seeing new maps, and also therefore downvote the ones they're sick of like Antiga, I think there's actually a lot of love for the kespa maps specifically. Not just because they are new, but because they bring a lot of fresh gameplay and are actually quite well made. Arkanoid and Bifrost are the most well executed maps I've ever seen in SC2 by far, so I don't understand what all the criticism from the map makers is about. Maybe I'm getting a bit off topic, though. On December 16 2012 22:36 Vindicare605 wrote: Just a bit of constructive criticism. Your rating scale explanation should be more prominent on the home page just so people are aware that a 10 doesn't/shouldn't actually exist. While the users aught to be able to utilize the entire scale, I think it's impossible for a map to reach a level like that without having extensive use in tournaments. Kind of a sticky situation since most of these maps haven't. | ||
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monitor
United States2409 Posts
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Daumen
Germany1073 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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SiskosGoatee
Albania1482 Posts
- Database model you used does not seem to be properly scalable, it seems like every map just has vital data such as map author as text field. You absolutely want to give each author an numerical id as well as for future proofness make it possible to list multiple authors. People want to be able to click on authors and see what other maps they made as well, you also later might want to add small profiles for authors as well as allow people to rate an entire author. (reverse id 0 for unknown author of course in case you run into difficult people such as I =)) - - Mapmaking teams seem to be part of the title in the database, again, do not do this, give each mapmaking team a numerical ID in the database and automatically add the tag, make it possible to click on the tag of the team to go to a page which lists every map by the team. Of course also list the current team of every author where available in the database. - Allow the addition of tags for easier searching, allow users to tag maps with basically whatever they want so people can search on tags - It might be smart to investigate turning it into a wiki, perhaps with moderation approval where the community can edit stuff to speed the process up. - Links to replays and vods and allow people to rate the games on it. - 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 and FFA section | ||
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SigmaFiE
United States333 Posts
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SiskosGoatee
Albania1482 Posts
On December 18 2012 00:37 SigmaFiE wrote: I'm not sure if the long-term viability of building such a thing on a wordpress engine though. Wordpress wasn't really made with this in mind.There are definitely improvements that can be made -- and we can trust lefix to make them. This does not diminish the capability and impact that this new database will have on the starcraft community I think. Almost feel like creating a generic CMS for a wiki based compendium about a certain subject if no such thing is yet available. It's been a while since I poisoned my mind with PHP. | ||
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MetaXelor
United States26 Posts
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