The Lack of Storytelling in E-Sports’ Events (AA) - Page 2

On December 11 2012 09:30 Ace Frehley wrote:
The audience is just too much comfortable with teamliquid.net and doesn't bother with going to other sites, I feel.
If you have a limited time to dedicate to your hobby, you won't waste it visiting a dozen sites. To save time, TL kind of do the job.

To be honest, I am like that. The only other site I occasionally visit to check sc2 stuff are those articles on Team Acer site.
Reddit is no-no to me, as well.

On December 11 2012 20:12 Hanna wrote:
I only want to commentate one of this many things in the article, the maps.

New or different maps at the tournaments would be very great! Everytime you see the same maps which often times looks like each other. I can remember, how great it was, when new korean maps came out and how exciting it was, to watch the games on this new maps.
Also i think, it would be kind of challenge for the players, if they have to play on maps, the don't know by heart. Playing on maps you know that good seems like following just a plan. At 8 minutes it can be a hatch there, at 10 minutes i have to scout for pylon there and so on. Sure, its part of the game for progamer to know that. But i would like to have more alternation in this part (maps).

just my two cents

On December 13 2012 02:14 Avs wrote:
Every tournament headliner should read: Boxer vs MMA.

On December 11 2012 09:30 Ace Frehley wrote:
The audience is just too much comfortable with teamliquid.net and doesn't bother with going to other sites, I feel.
If you have a limited time to dedicate to your hobby, you won't waste it visiting a dozen sites. To save time, TL kind of do the job.

To be honest, I am like that. The only other site I occasionally visit to check sc2 stuff are those articles on Team Acer site.
Reddit is no-no to me, as well.

On December 13 2012 02:49 heyoka wrote:


I want to add to this that I don't think TL being a central location can stop other outfits from developing their own content. All these organizations can post their articles to TL so that those of us who only visit a single site can easily find them, that is the only way I ever find out about Acer articles for instance. If anything that should be an incentive to because it will guarantee a large portion of their audience sees it (in combniation with reddit and twitter).

I just don't think TL being a one-stop-shop is even part of the equation - it's just another tool they need to be aware of when presenting and promoting that type of narration.

On December 11 2012 09:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why would the viewers best interest matter whatsoever? The organizers are using stories to both hype and weave relevance into their event. This is for their own self-interest as well as inform the public, giving them reason to watch. If they choose not to, then that's their choice.

Your analogy of sports is terrible because it isn't the same circumstances. There aren't 2-3 day tournaments competing with simultaneous or similar 2-3 day tournaments happening at the same time. These are events, not necessarily full-leagues or associations. What we're asking here is for organizers to highlight past events and their winners and put stakes into their marketing pot to deliver to the reader or viewer. This is informing your public as I stated above and it's pretty much needed when you're competing with other events hosting similar competitions with the same players (creating a feeling of repetition).



Reddit, TL. You use those to draw in interests for your site and that would be ok within the forum rules because it is set on advertising your competition in an informal way. It serves to help create interest in the scene and in turn, your event. If TL wants to write their own article about an event, then they can and that works for both parties. If one draws more interest than another, that doesn't sound bad either because the same two people win (thus, the more, the merrier). If more people are talking about an event, it is going to be seen more often and net more interests. If not, the exposure is good regardless. If TL volunteers can write thousands of words of the players in an upcoming event alone, I'm pretty sure 2-3 paid commissioned writers can do it without a problem.



http://www.nhl.com/
http://www.fifa.com/

They all have their own articles, highlights and content. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Like I said, the circumstances are different. There isn't an importance for NHL to produce content because they don't have any competition for their, pun intended, hockey players and competition.

MLG is not on the same level of comfortability. If TL is writing articles about all the events and all the players, the article on your event may get just as many views as another article of say, IPL. So should MLG not write about their own events because someone can do it better or because the obvious choice to content is TeamLiquid? Is it smart to limit choice because preferences are made?

On December 12 2012 22:41 Noocta wrote:
I think TL being the center piece of all SC2 tournament hype is somewhat a good thing other games don't really have.
Do you really think tournaments would get more exposure if they all had their own websites ? I sure wouldn't bother visiting 4 or 5 website for a game, even Starcraft.

On one other subject in the post, I think maps need to change more often. This is probably one of the main factor in SC2 looking stale right now.
And since most pro players practice on ladder, we need Blizzard to act with us on that matter.
I've been posting about changing half the ladder maps each seasons for quite some time now.

Imagine a system like this :

3 to 6 month seasons.
Season 1 with 8 maps
Season 2, you replace 4 of the maps
Season 3 you replace the 4 maps who stayed from season 1
etc etc

Right now, we are on the THIRD season in a row without a map pool change. It's insane. Starcraft can't stay exiting like this.

On December 13 2012 03:37 dubRa wrote:
I like this article and I agree. But I don't understand some things here.
Opening sentence: Within this month, there are currently four major tournament organizations showing content (if we exclude Evil Geniuses MCSL): GSL, IPL, MLG and NASL (as well as Iron Squid and KeSPA’s Proleague)
First of all, what month is referred to here? The article was posted on December 4th. So 'within this month' means December? MLG Dallas and IPL5 was in November.
Why is not Dreamhack and IEM included? Which is a shame because IEM is a bit unique in the foreign tournament scene in that it fosters young talent.

Second, GSL is not similar to any tournament in the world. It holds the highest prestige, it uses a completely different format, it has the best production value. It is the GSL's big guys that transform to other tournaments as the favorites whenever other tournaments invite them, also known as the "Korean invasion".

I know this is not relevant to the main point. Just some observation.

On December 13 2012 04:13 StarStruck wrote:


You shouldn't depend on one community either when it comes to growth of your product. We're a bite-sized closed off circle.