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On December 11 2012 04:10 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 01:16 nooboon wrote:
So....for an anti-team trade: Trap for Stephano or wait till the reset? Wait till you see the lineups for next week. However, despite a terrible first week nobody should keep Trap on anti for long. There must be a reason why he was chosen as ace. Also, Stephano is probably a good choice for anti, since he will probably miss a lot of round 1 (maybe even the whole round). He will probably go to HSC VI and then I guess that he will stay in Europe for Christmas/New Year.
doesn't trading close before before the line-ups are announced? either way you can undo any trades over the duration of the trading period
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yeah, i'm pondering the Trap for Stephano anti-team trade also. I chose Trap thinking that Bogus would be stx's ace but apparently Trap is fair game as well, which doesn't bode well. wish I had some inside information on Stephano and whether he will be in korea or not.
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On December 11 2012 04:18 mtvacuum wrote:
yeah, i'm pondering the Trap for Stephano anti-team trade also. I chose Trap thinking that Bogus would be stx's ace but apparently Trap is fair game as well, which doesn't bode well. wish I had some inside information on Stephano and whether he will be in korea or not.
Stephano won't be in Korea for the week-end. He is in France.
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Cant wait to see how this season pans out, some great matches to come.
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I know it's my fault for not reading the rules but I am so screwed on my anti-team, I thought it meant pick big name players who you expect not to perform up to par rather than b-teamers who you expect never to get played. I think the former way of doing things might actually be more interesting, maybe for next season?
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TOTALLY trading Stork for Stephano for anti-team. Especially seeing his twitter.
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It's impossible to pick all the b-teamers initially. The point minimum pretty much forces you to pick starters - the only way you could have gotten one or two b-teamers on your anti is by picking one two other decent players and a b-teamer or one top player like Rain and two b-teamers.
It should also be noted that "b-teamers" is a very loose term. I believe most of the people on the list are actually on A team and will get to play quite a few games. The only real B teamers you'll find cost 1 point, some that cost 2 points, and only a few of those that cost 3, going by the original price. Crazy-Hydra was 3 points for example, and he probably won't miss a match.
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So my team is as follows...any opinions on possible trades or should I stay pat
Main Team
3 Crazy-Hydra
6 Fantasy (captain)
5 JangBi
2 Sea
7 TaeJa
4 ZerO
3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team
7 Trap
3 Motive
3 Zenio
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Ugh, Stephano is playing LoL. 
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On December 11 2012 17:44 Talin wrote:
It's impossible to pick all the b-teamers initially. The point minimum pretty much forces you to pick starters - the only way you could have gotten one or two b-teamers on your anti is by picking one two other decent players and a b-teamer or one top player like Rain and two b-teamers.
It should also be noted that "b-teamers" is a very loose term. I believe most of the people on the list are actually on A team and will get to play quite a few games. The only real B teamers you'll find cost 1 point, some that cost 2 points, and only a few of those that cost 3, going by the original price. Crazy-Hydra was 3 points for example, and he probably won't miss a match.
I still think it's kind of lame that you're supposed to be trying to pick players who are not in the line-up rather than higher level players who you think are overrated and are going to lose their match. I think it would be much more interesting if you could actually make points of your anti-team. But I guess the rules always have been like they are now.
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On December 11 2012 19:48 Torra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 17:44 Talin wrote:
It's impossible to pick all the b-teamers initially. The point minimum pretty much forces you to pick starters - the only way you could have gotten one or two b-teamers on your anti is by picking one two other decent players and a b-teamer or one top player like Rain and two b-teamers.
It should also be noted that "b-teamers" is a very loose term. I believe most of the people on the list are actually on A team and will get to play quite a few games. The only real B teamers you'll find cost 1 point, some that cost 2 points, and only a few of those that cost 3, going by the original price. Crazy-Hydra was 3 points for example, and he probably won't miss a match. I still think it's kind of lame that you're supposed to be trying to pick players who are not in the line-up rather than higher level players who you think are overrated and are going to lose their match.
But that's exactly who you have to pick going by these rules.
Picking players who are not in the line-up consistently is impossible (although EGTL creates an anomaly there by having some very expensive players potentially missing a lot of matches).
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When are the lineups announced?
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I have Baby on anti, should I trade (only 4 options: Flash, RorO, Effort and Rain) or stay put?
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On December 11 2012 04:16 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2012 04:10 ggrrg wrote:On December 11 2012 01:16 nooboon wrote:
So....for an anti-team trade: Trap for Stephano or wait till the reset? Wait till you see the lineups for next week. However, despite a terrible first week nobody should keep Trap on anti for long. There must be a reason why he was chosen as ace. Also, Stephano is probably a good choice for anti, since he will probably miss a lot of round 1 (maybe even the whole round). He will probably go to HSC VI and then I guess that he will stay in Europe for Christmas/New Year. doesn't trading close before before the line-ups are announced? either way you can undo any trades over the duration of the trading period
If my math is correct, trading closes about 6 hours before the matches are played. I'm fairly certain that the lineups will be announced by then 
On December 11 2012 17:44 Talin wrote:
It's impossible to pick all the b-teamers initially. The point minimum pretty much forces you to pick starters - the only way you could have gotten one or two b-teamers on your anti is by picking one two other decent players and a b-teamer or one top player like Rain and two b-teamers.
It should also be noted that "b-teamers" is a very loose term. I believe most of the people on the list are actually on A team and will get to play quite a few games. The only real B teamers you'll find cost 1 point, some that cost 2 points, and only a few of those that cost 3, going by the original price. Crazy-Hydra was 3 points for example, and he probably won't miss a match.
There really are quite a few decent players that cost 3 points. However, there are still a few players that feel somewhat overvalued:
For 4 points (currently 20.57) you can get:
 Light
+ on a huge roster (big competition)
+ not fielded in week 1 (bad shape?)
+ on a team that did fairly badly in round 3 of the hybrid league (chances are they won't do well in round 1 either)
+ team has the "worst" ace of the hybrid league (Soulkey went 1-5 in ace matches...)
 Mini
+ on a huge and solid roster (Trap, Last, Bogus, Classic, hyvaa are pretty much certain starters; For the last spot Mini will compete with two other decent players: Dear and Calm)
+ not fielded in week 1
- his team is extremely solid and might do well, but it will probably still pay off to have him on anti
Among the even more expensive players, Bisu and Jangbi are worth considering. However, both will most likely be fielded a lot, so they are dangerous.
For 3 points (currently 16.76)
Leta and Motive
+ not fielded week 1
+ Leta has very strong competition on his team
- Motive might get rotated in since KT's roster doesn't feel that certain
CJ>KT - at least I think so, thus Leta might yield a few more +1 for team
For 3 points (currently 15.43)
ThorZaIN,  Calm, free and maybe even Zenio were all decent choices for anti.
However, none of them is currently worth trading for since you can only get them on anti by giving up a 1 or 2 pointer.
On December 11 2012 17:57 8mmspikes wrote:
So my team is as follows...any opinions on possible trades or should I stay pat
Main Team
3 Crazy-Hydra
6 Fantasy (captain)
5 JangBi
2 Sea
7 TaeJa
4 ZerO
3 Woongjin Stars
Anti Team
7 Trap
3 Motive
3 Zenio
CH and Fanta are great picks. There isn't anyone worth trading for CH anyway, also KT will most likely roll over T8 next week and CH will probably start. Fanta is generally good, but you might want to consider trading him for SoO or maybe even Best (although Best is a dangerous pick) depending on whatever matchups they get next week. You might be tempted to trade Fanta for HerO, but you really shouldn't. SKT will be playing against Woongjin and they are the favorites. EG-TL on the other hand will have a tough match against CJ, so your chances are better with SKT players.
I am not fond of Jangbi, but there really isn't much you can get for him. Unless, of course, you feel lucky and want to gamble on Bisu/Wooki/Hydra having a great round 1. However, if Jangbi and Khan perform well next week you might want to consider getting Bbyong for Jangbi. He is probably the safer bet in the long run.
I'm fairly certain that Sea won't get you any points next week, but I have no idea, who you could get instead.
You might want to swap Taeja for HerO depending on who will have the easier opponent.
You should probably keep ZerO for another round.
Personally, I am betting against Woongjin this round. However, currently they are only tradable for T8 and I don't expect neither Woongjin nor T8 winning their matches.
As I already mentioned above, both Motive and Zenio are worth having on anti and I don't see much of a reason to swap them out. The only 3 players, worth considering instead of Motive/Zenio are Light/Mini/Leta, but I guess you'll be better of with Motive/Zenio for the moment (the only downside is that Zenio will probably continue to be a starter for EG-TL).
Trap is a though one. I also have him on anti and I am still not sure what to do with him. I am awaiting next week's lineups to decide. Generally, Trap should be kicked from anti sooner or later. He is a certain starter and a likely ace for STX. Right now is a great moment to remove him from anti, since he is the cheapest former 7-pointer at 34.67. Stork is generally a good replacement. He won last week, but he had a shitty opponent. Next match Stork's team (Khan) will be playing against STX and Stork is the underdog against pretty much everybody on STX.
The only other replacement for Trap I consider worthwhile, is Stephano. He certainly won't play in the next 4 matches for EG-TL. He might play in the last 2 matches, but then EG-TL will have very difficult opponents (STX and CJ). However, I doubt that Stephano will be available for anti this week.
I'm pretty much set on Stork<->Trap. Imho, there are two reason to keep Trap:
- He gets fielded as the sixth player next week and Stork gets somebody weak (since I expect STX to 4-0 or 4-1 Khan)
- Trap has to play against Roro and Stork gets somebody weak
On December 11 2012 22:10 DyEnasTy wrote:
I have Baby on anti, should I trade (only 4 options: Flash, RorO, Effort and Rain) or stay put?
Rain on anti is a joke...
Flash on anti is ridiculous...
Roro - the anti team destroyer!
Effort is the only option. However, CJ will play against EG-TL, so Effort is likely to win (as well as his team). T8 are going up against KT and chances are that they won't reach the ace match this time. Even if the lineups turn out to be great for Baby and T8 while terrible for Effort and CJ, I'd still keep Baby, because else you would be stuck with Effort/CJ and they will probably be worse in the long run.
Anyway, you are screwed
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1795 posts and this is the first time I quote when I meant to edit...
sorry for double post...
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Did I miss the thread where it shows the PL schedule? Calender shows nothing and I want to prepare future LR threads.
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Sweet. Thanks for the quick reply. xD
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When do we get to know the lineups for this weeks PL?
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On December 11 2012 17:34 sickoota wrote:
I know it's my fault for not reading the rules but I am so screwed on my anti-team, I thought it meant pick big name players who you expect not to perform up to par rather than b-teamers who you expect never to get played. I think the former way of doing things might actually be more interesting, maybe for next season?
Yeah I thought you could gain points when your anti team lost as well. IMO, the points should be set up that if they appear in the lineup and LOSE the points should be +2 for you (+1 for lineup +1 for loss). As it stands point distribution is exactly equal to regular team, which is kind of odd. The fact that Bisu gets you a -1 after losing his match but his team still winning just doesn't make sense to me. People should be rewarded for having starters on their anti, that would counter people just choosing EG-TL players and B teamers and require much more thought into it.
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