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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
December 12 2012 05:31 GMT
#861
On December 12 2012 03:59 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 03:54 xxpack09 wrote:
On December 12 2012 02:47 Dosey wrote:
On December 11 2012 17:34 sickoota wrote:
I know it's my fault for not reading the rules but I am so screwed on my anti-team, I thought it meant pick big name players who you expect not to perform up to par rather than b-teamers who you expect never to get played. I think the former way of doing things might actually be more interesting, maybe for next season?

Yeah I thought you could gain points when your anti team lost as well. IMO, the points should be set up that if they appear in the lineup and LOSE the points should be +2 for you (+1 for lineup +1 for loss). As it stands point distribution is exactly equal to regular team, which is kind of odd. The fact that Bisu gets you a -1 after losing his match but his team still winning just doesn't make sense to me. People should be rewarded for having starters on their anti, that would counter people just choosing EG-TL players and B teamers and require much more thought into it.


This, tbh, is just confusing. It's much easier to just have anti-team points be the same as main team points but with a negative sign slapped in front. Creating an entirely separate system for anti-team would just make things MORE confusing and make even MORE people fuck up their anti-team. I don't see how this is such a confusing concept!

...Um. It IS the same system, but negative. There is no separate calculation system. And anti-team losses can get you + points, which is why people who had Shine on their anti gained points. You also can't only pick b-teamers, because b-teamers aren't worth anything, and you have to go over 13 points for anti.

Bisu lost you a point because he gained +1 for lineup, -1 for loss, and +1 for team win. That's +1 total. Turned negative, it's -1.

And yeah, that does make sense, because you ought to have considered the players' teams when putting them on anti (or main, for that matter). Bisu = SKT. By putting Bisu on anti, you are not only betting that Bisu will suck, but that SKT will also suck. Which is a pretty dumb bet, just saying~ ^_^

I don't get what's so hard to understand about the current system.


Uh, I was defending the current system--you read my post wrong
Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
December 12 2012 05:39 GMT
#862
I'm so glad they brought this back! I'm really happy with my team and I think I may finish high this season

GOGO Fantasy, Reality, RorO, HuK, Hyvaa, oDin and Team 8!
Protoss Player | @ScThoR_ | www.Twitch.tv/ScThoR | Business Student and Entrepreneur
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:27:04
December 12 2012 09:26 GMT
#863
I got -11 anti-team already, IM FOOKED.

Good thing my main team raped face though, I'm not in last, all good in the hood

edit: seems Bbyong and Reality are actually pretty good in SC2, that's what I get for not watching any games at all. GG
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
December 12 2012 09:41 GMT
#864
On December 12 2012 18:26 Torenhire wrote:
I got -11 anti-team already, IM FOOKED.

Good thing my main team raped face though, I'm not in last, all good in the hood

edit: seems Bbyong and Reality are actually pretty good in SC2, that's what I get for not watching any games at all. GG


Its okay to be a STX fanboy for FPL
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 12 2012 09:48 GMT
#865
Will this thread be updated with the upcoming matches and initial line-up?
I had a good night of sleep.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 12 2012 10:00 GMT
#866
What happens with us that have Horang2 on our team? T_T Free transfer pls
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 12 2012 10:00 GMT
#867
On December 12 2012 18:41 8mmspikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:26 Torenhire wrote:
I got -11 anti-team already, IM FOOKED.

Good thing my main team raped face though, I'm not in last, all good in the hood

edit: seems Bbyong and Reality are actually pretty good in SC2, that's what I get for not watching any games at all. GG


Its okay to be a STX fanboy for FPL


Haha, I have a bunch of STX on my team.

I even named my team "STX is still good" LOL
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 10:06:25
December 12 2012 10:06 GMT
#868
when will we know the matchups of this weekend's matches?
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 12 2012 10:21 GMT
#869
On December 12 2012 18:48 Koshi wrote:
Will this thread be updated with the upcoming matches and initial line-up?

maybe try guessing based on this:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT Roflster vs KeSPA 8th
1st: Bifrost
2nd: Planet S
3rd: Arkanoid
4th: Caldeum
5th: Tal'Darim Altar
6th: Ohana
Ace: Cloud Kingdom

Woongjin Stars vs SKTelecom T1
1st: Ohana
2nd: Antiga Shipyard
3rd: Planet S
4th: Bifrost
5th: Caldeum
6th: Cloud Kingdom
Ace: Tal'Darim Altar

STX Soul vs Samsung KHAN
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana

CJ Entus vs EG-TL
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 12 2012 10:21 GMT
#870
On December 12 2012 19:00 Gladiator333 wrote:
What happens with us that have Horang2 on our team? T_T Free transfer pls

Time to put him on the anti-team ^^
Gaius Baltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
December 12 2012 11:36 GMT
#871
I'm also curious whether there will be a tax-free trade for Horang2, but more generally, are allowances like that ever really made (like not being able to recruit Stephano etc week one for the anti-team) or are we on our own?

The other question I had was why is there a difference between the adjusted trade values for players on the trade page and their trade values on the stats page? Does it mean something?
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
December 12 2012 20:00 GMT
#872
On December 12 2012 19:21 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 18:48 Koshi wrote:
Will this thread be updated with the upcoming matches and initial line-up?

maybe try guessing based on this:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT Roflster vs KeSPA 8th
1st: Bifrost
2nd: Planet S
3rd: Arkanoid
4th: Caldeum
5th: Tal'Darim Altar
6th: Ohana
Ace: Cloud Kingdom

Woongjin Stars vs SKTelecom T1
1st: Ohana
2nd: Antiga Shipyard
3rd: Planet S
4th: Bifrost
5th: Caldeum
6th: Cloud Kingdom
Ace: Tal'Darim Altar

STX Soul vs Samsung KHAN
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana

CJ Entus vs EG-TL
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana


Where did you find all this? I've been looking to no avail... =/
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 20:06:58
December 12 2012 20:06 GMT
#873
On December 13 2012 05:00 E.H Eager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 19:21 Arceus wrote:
On December 12 2012 18:48 Koshi wrote:
Will this thread be updated with the upcoming matches and initial line-up?

maybe try guessing based on this:

+ Show Spoiler +
KT Roflster vs KeSPA 8th
1st: Bifrost
2nd: Planet S
3rd: Arkanoid
4th: Caldeum
5th: Tal'Darim Altar
6th: Ohana
Ace: Cloud Kingdom

Woongjin Stars vs SKTelecom T1
1st: Ohana
2nd: Antiga Shipyard
3rd: Planet S
4th: Bifrost
5th: Caldeum
6th: Cloud Kingdom
Ace: Tal'Darim Altar

STX Soul vs Samsung KHAN
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana

CJ Entus vs EG-TL
1st: Tal'Darim Altar
2nd: Bifrost
3rd: Caldeum
4th: Arkanoid
5th: Cloud Kingdom
6th: Antiga Shipyard
Ace: Ohana


Where did you find all this? I've been looking to no avail... =/


Korean e-sports news websites. In this case, here: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=70254

It was translated by a TL user, taken from there.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 12 2012 20:16 GMT
#874
i think people who have bisu in their anti is taking a lot of risk. his skills have not eroded, just not adjusting to sc2 for whatever reason. there is still hope yet!
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
December 13 2012 05:37 GMT
#875
On December 13 2012 05:16 oneofthem wrote:
i think people who have bisu in their anti is taking a lot of risk. his skills have not eroded, just not adjusting to sc2 for whatever reason. there is still hope yet!


Bisu isn't on the roster at all this week, and he kinda got demolished in that PvP in his first match. That was not really build order, they both had similar compositions and tech paths, and Bisu looked outclassed badly. I just wish I had put him on my anti-team now.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
December 13 2012 05:38 GMT
#876
Lineups will be posted in separate threads. I'll probably do them every week unless someone else beats me to the punch.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 13 2012 05:45 GMT
#877
On December 13 2012 14:37 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 05:16 oneofthem wrote:
i think people who have bisu in their anti is taking a lot of risk. his skills have not eroded, just not adjusting to sc2 for whatever reason. there is still hope yet!


Bisu isn't on the roster at all this week, and he kinda got demolished in that PvP in his first match. That was not really build order, they both had similar compositions and tech paths, and Bisu looked outclassed badly. I just wish I had put him on my anti-team now.


Yeah... KT lover and SKT/Bisu hater here... Ive underestimated him in the past. And it has bit me in the ass forever. He will figure this shit out, and when he does he will rape anyone who isnt aware of just how awesome of a player he is.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 13 2012 05:46 GMT
#878
On December 13 2012 14:37 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 05:16 oneofthem wrote:
i think people who have bisu in their anti is taking a lot of risk. his skills have not eroded, just not adjusting to sc2 for whatever reason. there is still hope yet!


Bisu isn't on the roster at all this week, and he kinda got demolished in that PvP in his first match. That was not really build order, they both had similar compositions and tech paths, and Bisu looked outclassed badly. I just wish I had put him on my anti-team now.

if sc2 had high ground miss (lol red alert doesn't) he woulda won. it's true
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
December 13 2012 05:49 GMT
#879
On December 13 2012 14:46 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 14:37 Wingblade wrote:
On December 13 2012 05:16 oneofthem wrote:
i think people who have bisu in their anti is taking a lot of risk. his skills have not eroded, just not adjusting to sc2 for whatever reason. there is still hope yet!


Bisu isn't on the roster at all this week, and he kinda got demolished in that PvP in his first match. That was not really build order, they both had similar compositions and tech paths, and Bisu looked outclassed badly. I just wish I had put him on my anti-team now.

if sc2 had high ground miss (lol red alert doesn't) he woulda won. it's true


If Sc2 had that, then the other guy wouldn't have sat on that ramp. He woulda walked up. There weren't forcefields to stop him. Wouldn't have mattered.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 13 2012 05:50 GMT
#880
guys free is back, starring in both matches this week. wonder who got him in Anti :p
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