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On December 07 2012 02:24 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:18 FakeLife wrote:On December 07 2012 02:11 TBone- wrote:
This is a blessing in disguise. All of you need to see just how amazing OGN korean commentators are. I don't speak Korean, but I'd rather listen to a good OGN Korean commentator any day over any of the English speaking ones. I like having someone to help me understand what is going on in a Starcraft match, and I care about that more than I care about someone getting me 'hyped' by yelling. (I don't understand Korean. They could be screaming entries out of the phone book for all I know.) Funny thing, when an English commentator yells a lot, people say it sounds fake, that they're annoying, and that they need to shut up. Basically this. Well, not entirely. I am mainly grateful for informations about the player and his playstyles, and interpretations of the gameplay in regards to the current metagame.
Well, yes, I consider that relevant and important information to a cast as well. And also something I don't get out of Korean casts because I don't understand a word of it.
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People want sooooo badly to blame MLG for this. It's pretty funny.
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On December 07 2012 02:34 tylerf wrote:
People want sooooo badly to blame MLG for this. It's pretty funny.
People just want to blame.
I don´t know if this amount of people crying and screaming, "Ill not pay to view this", are just insane or
they don´t have anything else to do.
They don´t even read the op, or the posts.
Edit: BTW, and problably these are the same guys who bashed OGN to hell in last OSL.
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so... Sayle and Oooophidian.... audio-only casting? dunno if Sayle would be as interested without Brood War, but he was always entertaining to me...
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I love the difference in views from people who were here before sc2 and those who came after. Korean commentators are amazing,can't wait!
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fuck. I was so hyped about tl-eg announcement . and so far I never watched a sc2 team league .
I followed all individual competitions .
we'll see what happens , but if i don't like it I will probably not watch it.
man, kespa seems to be just a pain in the ass lately. hey seem prepared to rather go down in flames than loose control..
and I was so happy for tl and eg, again fuck.
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On December 07 2012 01:27 Blargh wrote:
There is bound to be an english stream. After all, having EG-TL was pretty much solely for getting more viewers (foreign). And if you have foreign viewers, you probably should have a foreign (english) stream for it.
But the whole scenario sounds very Kespa. I might watch the KR streams if I come across it, but probably won't go out of my way to see any matches now.
Well not really. I mean the EG-TL was because there is no air force ace anymore, and there were only 7 teams. They cant use ESF teams cause ESF and kespa have some sort of agreement I think prohibiting it. Reallly EG-TL was the best alternative. Who were they going to get otherwise? Empire?
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On December 07 2012 02:45 Megaliskuu wrote:
I love the difference in views from people who were here before sc2 and those who came after. Korean commentators are amazing,can't wait!
I watched a lot of brood war, and I still watch amateur streams over SC2 pros,... but I still don't speak Korean. I prefer English Casts like I prefer my Anime to be dubbed instead of subbed.. and also cause I have bad tastes.
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I imagine one day all of Kespa's dirty deeds will catch up with them. They are not making themselves into the foreigner friendly business that GOMTV has... in time I think this will catch up with them. I sure hope so. In the mean time, poor Doa.... I love his casting and it must really suck to be in Korea and but screwed over this badly. 
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On December 07 2012 02:52 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 01:27 Blargh wrote:
There is bound to be an english stream. After all, having EG-TL was pretty much solely for getting more viewers (foreign). And if you have foreign viewers, you probably should have a foreign (english) stream for it.
But the whole scenario sounds very Kespa. I might watch the KR streams if I come across it, but probably won't go out of my way to see any matches now. Well not really. I mean the EG-TL was because there is no air force ace anymore, and there were only 7 teams. They cant use ESF teams cause ESF and kespa have some sort of agreement I think prohibiting it. Reallly EG-TL was the best alternative. Who were they going to get otherwise? Empire?
No please, don´t burst the bubble.
All of this was because of the foreign viewers.
Those viewers who buy a lot of LG phones and TVs because of IM.
Those who only use razer gears and so on.
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Even if I can't understand Korean I've always found that they are competent at directing the camera to where it should be, and do a good job of conveying excitement. I've always watched proleague in korean.
Don't like those captain obvious commentators in english, dunno, just don't see the necessity. Maybe that's because I know the game pretty well, so I don't need someone to tell me what's going on in the game.
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On December 07 2012 02:41 fenrysk wrote:
so... Sayle and Oooophidian.... audio-only casting? dunno if Sayle would be as interested without Brood War, but he was always entertaining to me...
Sayle's SC2 casting consists mainly of "Umm, I don't know what to say" and crying about BW.
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On December 07 2012 02:34 tylerf wrote:
People want sooooo badly to blame MLG for this. It's pretty funny.
I'm trying to wrap my head around MLG's intentions...
So originally OGN was supposed to cast this LIVE in English, right? And MLG wanted to RECAST it during prime time with their own crew? I mean, it just seems to me like MLG, being the money grubbing coorporation that they are, was trying to get in on something that didn't really concern them. And if that's true, then simple cause and effect means MLG caused this to happen.
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remember, this isn't your beloved OGN casters though that you knew of in scbw, those casters also got the big kick in the butt along with DoA, so you're gonna be looking at random casters that IEG picked and will probably while you won't understand them, either be terrible, or just scream the entire time.
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KeSPA only works if eSports is entertaining, professional, and story-line driven. From that came the Brood War scene we loved.
KeSPA can stand up to Blizzard in the name of improved eSports, no other company can. They will make Starcraft 2 work as an eSports game, whatever it takes. They won't appeal to Blizzard or to a community to make maps, they'll make ones that deliver quality games themselves. They'll make this shit work.
Of course this sucks for DoA, but don't draw a conclusion regarding KeSPA before the entire story is told (for english broadcasting).
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I just hope we get something, english casts or MLG restreaming with an english cast in EST. But lets refrain from painting people as the villains (KeSPA to MLG) because it does nothing. I mean really, "We're working on it" means they're conspiring to lock out DoA? Really? That's a terribly immense reach.
Why don't we just try and get that english cast? Just tweet KeSPA about how you'd love an english cast and I'm sure if enough of us do it they might cave and get someone casting in english.
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sucks. its sad that they are so stupid. GOM has reached out to the non-korean community and received a lot of support for it, including all our subscriptions.
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On December 07 2012 02:59 Kazeyonoma wrote:
remember, this isn't your beloved OGN casters though that you knew of in scbw, those casters also got the big kick in the butt along with DoA, so you're gonna be looking at random casters that IEG picked and will probably while you won't understand them, either be terrible, or just scream the entire time.
We have confirmation for this? I thought it was just that OGN would not be doing any English broadcasts, but everything else would still go as planned for OGN.
If what you say is true I see OGN potentially dropping sc2 completely to focus on LoL. Why would they run a starleague when they can't broadcast proleague? It's so weird.
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