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On December 07 2012 03:40 Vadrigar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 02:56 Taipoka wrote:On December 07 2012 02:52 TheRavensName wrote:On December 07 2012 01:27 Blargh wrote:
There is bound to be an english stream. After all, having EG-TL was pretty much solely for getting more viewers (foreign). And if you have foreign viewers, you probably should have a foreign (english) stream for it.
But the whole scenario sounds very Kespa. I might watch the KR streams if I come across it, but probably won't go out of my way to see any matches now. Well not really. I mean the EG-TL was because there is no air force ace anymore, and there were only 7 teams. They cant use ESF teams cause ESF and kespa have some sort of agreement I think prohibiting it. Reallly EG-TL was the best alternative. Who were they going to get otherwise? Empire? No please, don´t burst the bubble. All of this was because of the foreign viewers. Those viewers who buy a lot of LG phones and TVs because of IM. Those who only use razer gears and so on. Do you think EG-TL participates in Proleague for free? They paid good money (that's why they made a partnership) to take part in it. And of course they want to make a profit by being exposed to their core audience- the foreigners. I doubt that they don't have a mandatory English stream in their contract with Kespa.
Don´t doubt anything dude.
Thats your mistake and of a bunch of others.
Wait till details are exposed instead of saying what EG/TL thought or KESPA or OGN or anyone else.
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Hopefully Sayle or Ooooophidian can cast until someone gets KeSPA to cave...
seriously, idk if I would even watch the english cast, but still, wtf KeSPA
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On December 07 2012 03:35 Gentso wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 03:10 Kiyo. wrote:On December 07 2012 02:58 Gentso wrote:On December 07 2012 02:34 tylerf wrote:
People want sooooo badly to blame MLG for this. It's pretty funny. I'm trying to wrap my head around MLG's intentions... So originally OGN was supposed to cast this LIVE in English, right? And MLG wanted to RECAST it during prime time with their own crew? I mean, it just seems to me like MLG, being the money grubbing coorporation that they are, was trying to get in on something that didn't really concern them. And if that's true, then simple cause and effect means MLG caused this to happen. No. OGN was only doing the weekend games in English. The other weekday games wouldn't have any English casters. We can assume MLG was looking to get the rights to cast those games. Either way, it's still MLG trying to get a piece of OGN's pie. MLG is responsible either implicitly by asking to recast those games or explicity behind doors.
Yeah basically Lee's tweet pretty much proves they were trying to move in on Proleague through their Kespa partnership. Without that tweet this whole thing is a surprise. With that tweet you can see there were already talks going on that caused this bullshit. MLG isn't innocent in this scenario.
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o0ooo0o0ophidian we need that casting back even if its on ustream or whatever if twitch is having it and mlg is not having an english stream. say you can <3 How can we not have a good english cast for proleague.
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1 Kespa looking for a foreign team to participate in Proleague.
2 Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid, two of the most popular foreign teams in Starcraft 2, team up to participate.
3 No English broadcast.
Somewhere between those three steps...
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On December 07 2012 03:54 Xpace wrote:
1 Kespa looking for a foreign team to participate in Proleague.
2 Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid, two of the most popular foreign teams in Starcraft 2, team up to participate.
3 No English broadcast.
Somewhere between those three steps...
who said no english broadcast ?
Just no english by some guys.
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On December 07 2012 03:55 shid0x wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 03:54 Xpace wrote:
1 Kespa looking for a foreign team to participate in Proleague.
2 Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid, two of the most popular foreign teams in Starcraft 2, team up to participate.
3 No English broadcast.
Somewhere between those three steps... who said no english broadcast ? Just no english by some guys.
PPV MLG Basement Restream several hours after the results are released is roughly equivalent to "no english broadcast". =P
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On December 07 2012 03:54 Xpace wrote:
1 Kespa looking for a foreign team to participate in Proleague.
2 Evil Geniuses and Team Liquid, two of the most popular foreign teams in Starcraft 2, team up to participate.
3 No English broadcast.
Somewhere between those three steps...
This, to me, epitomizes the contrivance of Kespa. It isn't just that they pull off unbelievable bullshit; They do so out of spite to the international scene.
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Maybe we can get Sayle to cast it. I really don't give much of a shit about SC2 nowadays, but the games on the new maps deserve a chance at least and Sayle has a lot of experince of casting Proleague restreams *cough* *cough*
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makes perfect sense to me why they didnt want onegamenet to cast.
Possibly the most stacked sc2 league cant have the worst english casters. i think they are gonna get incontrol and khaldor
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On December 07 2012 04:06 ftjust wrote:
makes perfect sense to me why they didnt want onegamenet to cast.
Possibly the most stacked sc2 league cant have the worst english casters. i think they are gonna get incontrol and khaldor
Khaldor works for GOM. Good luck getting him to work for Kespa.
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Well the question is:
Should EG-TL show solidarity and pull out of the Pro-League?
This was the only reason that I was actually going to fully follow the Pro-League this season.
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kespa being huge pieces of shit??? no! i can't believe it!
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I prefer korean casters but sad for those who want/need english ones  . A loss in viewers for sure!
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OGN doesn't have a good English casting pair to begin with, and have failed to solve that issue for a while now. The fact that Kespa was trying to find alternatives to OGN's casters and even bring a new one into OGN's cast indicates they are aware of this. This may end up being better for the foreign audience anyway.
By the way, that comes out as a very biased and loaded OP with a misleading title designed to rile people up for, as of yet, no real reason at all. Real classy.
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On December 07 2012 04:08 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2012 04:06 ftjust wrote:
makes perfect sense to me why they didnt want onegamenet to cast.
Possibly the most stacked sc2 league cant have the worst english casters. i think they are gonna get incontrol and khaldor
Khaldor works for GOM. Good luck getting him to work for Kespa.
Incontrol....LOL
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Well this is disappointing to say the least. Doesn't make a ton of sense to add a foreign team and then not have an English broadcast for their foreign audience.
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On December 07 2012 04:14 Talin wrote:
OGN doesn't have a good English casting pair to begin with, and have failed to solve that issue for a while now. The fact that Kespa was trying to find alternatives to OGN's casters and even bring a new one into OGN's cast indicates they are aware of this. This may end up being better for the foreign audience anyway.
By the way, that comes out as a very biased and loaded OP with a misleading title designed to rile people up for, as of yet, no real reason at all. Real classy.
Wholeheartedly agree with the above. OP comes off as childish and unprofessional.
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