EPTNo English OGN broadcast for SK Planet Proleague? - Page 26
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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HorsemasterK
United States606 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:27 Dranak wrote: Well this is disappointing to say the least. Doesn't make a ton of sense to add a foreign team and then not have an English broadcast for their foreign audience. Sure it does, 5 hour tape delayed MLG PPV basement cast with MonteCristo and Axeltoss inc. | ||
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dudecrush
Canada418 Posts
Why must you screw everyone over all the time? Whoever runs Kespa needs to be sacked, as they are doing a terrible job. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
Does Kespa always does stuff like this on such a short notice? This is the second time that a couple days berfore an event they suddenly change their minds. | ||
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
I always watched BW with the korean casting, even if I couldn't understand it at all. It'll be same old same old for me. I still loved it. And there's was always someone in the stream chat willing to translate some things. | ||
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Kasu
United Kingdom345 Posts
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada968 Posts
To pull this kind of thing with only a couple of days before the start of Proleague is just ridiculous. | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:30 E025 wrote: Wholeheartedly agree with the above. OP comes off as childish and unprofessional. It's sensationalist for sure and one-sided and personal. The title is descriptive of the event. | ||
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Jeremy Reimer
Canada968 Posts
On December 07 2012 00:43 MLG_Adam wrote: The problem has always been stream license issues. That is why MvP was PPV. MLG, Kespa, and IEG wanted it to be free. We're working on it now. Okay, I've asked this before, but nobody has ever responded. If MLG, Kespa, and IEG wanted it to be free, WHO DIDN'T??? Who is left? Who else exists that would have stream license rights? OGN? How would OGN have rights to a Kespa-MLG partnership? | ||
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ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
MLGLee's tweet before the cancellation of the english broadcast shows that MLG was in discussion with KeSPA prior to this decision. All that's left is to announce MLG picking up the broadcast (and the $$$). Whether they did they do it unethically, behind closed doors or came in to save the day... well it's all in front of you to decide. I know where I stand. | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:38 Jeremy Reimer wrote: Okay, I've asked this before, but nobody has ever responded. If MLG, Kespa, and IEG wanted it to be free, WHO DIDN'T??? Who is left? Who else exists that would have stream license rights? OGN? How would OGN have rights to a Kespa-MLG partnership? My guess is that they can't re-stream OGN's broadcast without their consent. So it's either they pay OGN or they cast from replays. That or Blizzard. But I think the former is more likely. That and OGN is probably not in the mood to give MLG a good deal ATM. On December 07 2012 04:30 Fionn wrote: Mr. Chae continues winning without doing anything. It boggles my mind just how much better than pretty much everything else in SCII GOMTV is. It even makes me forgive them their shit bitrate. Good casters on location, the English stuff produced in parallel with the Korean stuff, the best players in the world, high production value, timely VODs... it's hard to fathom how any other organization can really justify charging for their services, tbh. | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:30 Fionn wrote: And GSTL was in danger of being seriously overshadowed, too. Good to know that KeSPA/OGN can continue to throw away every advantage they have.Mr. Chae continues winning without doing anything. | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:42 tili wrote: Kespa is the Apple, of Starcraft. Bahahaha I really like this! +1 Anyways, hopefully MLG will bring decent content for cheap/free. Not sure how they'll pull it off though unless they're planning on sending casters to Korea which I suppose is possible. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On December 07 2012 03:58 MCXD wrote: PPV MLG Basement Restream several hours after the results are released is roughly equivalent to "no english broadcast". =P They specifically said they weren't going to do PPV on anything in the foreseeable future without an extremely good reason. Obviously a post-results restream won't be PPV; stop trying to rile people up. | ||
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Boiler Bandsman
United States391 Posts
Look, I respect the history of Brood War and what those players and teams have done for the Starcraft scene, and I respect the tradition of Proleague. But the fact of the matter is that the GSL and the GSTL have the best players right now, and that's why I'll be watching them, in English. | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:47 dcemuser wrote: They specifically said they weren't going to do PPV on anything in the foreseeable future without an extremely good reason. Obviously a post-results restream won't be PPV; stop trying to rile people up. Personally I don't mind PVP. I mind the fact that they will be doing a restream, possibly from replay, and by the sounds of it at least a day after the game is played while OGN was ready to broadcast it live with casters on location. Absolutely nothing MLG has said so far has made me less nervous about what they plan to do. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On December 07 2012 04:39 ShadowReaver wrote: KeSPA wouldn't have booted out OGN's english broadcast without a backup plan. They want foreign viewership, that's why they allow EG-TL to participate in PL in the first place. MLGLee's tweet before the cancellation of the english broadcast shows that MLG was in discussion with KeSPA prior to this decision. All that's left is to announce MLG picking up the broadcast (and the $$$). Whether they did they do it unethically, behind closed doors or came in to save the day... well it's all in front of you to decide. I know where I stand. Yet again people making this bigger than it needs to be. Why do you live in a black-and-white world? What if the truth was actually reasonable and grey: i.e. MLG contacts KeSPA about getting to restream Proleague several days ago and KeSPA decides that they like the offer so much that they don't need OGN at all (since they were already having problems with OGN in the first place). In that scenario (the likely scenario imo based on statements from the OP and from MLG), if MLG had never talked to KeSPA would OGN still get an English cast? Possibly. But intent is important: if MLG did not intend to eliminate OGN from the equation, then it is KeSPA who is truly at "fault". On December 07 2012 04:50 Fischbacher wrote: Personally I don't mind PVP. I mind the fact that they will be doing a restream, possibly from replay, and by the sounds of it at least a day after the game is played while OGN was ready to broadcast it live with casters on location. Absolutely nothing MLG has said so far has made me less nervous about what they plan to do. MLG probably didn't plan on being the sole source of an English proleague cast, and they're only getting a 1-day advance notice of that, so I'm not expecting a lot either. | ||
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